MCU: The Marvel Cinematic Universe Official Discussion

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  1. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    I really don't know what Evans' feelings towards the character are, but Cap is one of those characters who is "too big to fail." He's vitally important to the Avengers, and is usually depicted as the de facto leader (even though it's a democratically-elected office)....Joss steered in that direction by the end of Avengers 1 as well.



    How do TDW and TWS look like "all-in"? If anything, TDW is just the set-up for Surtur and the Twilight Sword saga in Thor 3, and as we get more info, we'll probably see that TWS sets up a continuing saga for Cap 3.
     
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  2. BatsDC

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    I didn't mean to write this much, but ended up doing so. Some of my ideas for how this Planet Hulk / World War Hulk 'scoop' could work.

    Here’s how I could see it playing out:

    • End of the Avengers 2, Banner is sent into Space to investigate some potentially dangerous gamma rays around a satellite. We don’t physically see him leave in the film.
    • Planet Hulk, Banner leaves, is in space. Whilst investigating, the Council activate some controls that send Banner’s ship spiralling out of control, and with technology similar to Iron Man’s deep space suit, shoots out across the Galaxy. Banner hulks out whilst this is happening from stress.
    • The ship smashes into an alien planet, Sakaar. Hulk smashes out of his ship, and is confronted by guards. They fight him, and Hulk fights back. More guards eventually overwhelm him, and Hulk is taken.
    • Banner awakens in a cell, where he meets other gladiators. This is where we’re introduced to the members of the Warbound. Banner is informed he will have to fight gladiator battles for the ‘Red King’. Guards eventually come, provoke Banner. He Hulks out, and is then sent out into the arena. He fights various foes. Basically from this point on the story can follow the basic Planet Hulk story. The pact is formed between him and the other gladiators.
    • Here’s where we could change the story. Obviously Marvel can’t use the Silver Surfer because of Fox. However, I feel his role should be replaced with ‘the Other’, who at some point was sent to this planet to find one of the gems in Thanos’ quest for all six infinity gems for the gauntlet. The Red King is in possession of one. Hulk breaks the obedience disk on the Other (who reveals he was never truly under the Red King’s control) but however can now contact Thanos, as he is ‘free’. HE is then the one to offer to bring Hulk back to Earth, under certain conditions. However Hulk, carried away from the battle, declines to leave, whereas Banner would have. The Other then escapes. The Warbound go on the run from the Red King, who actively hunts them after they escape. Continue normal Planet Hulk story.
    • This idea isn’t actually my own, it was first mentioned I believe in the Iron Man 3 thread, but I liked it. The Red King is revealed to be the Red Skull, who was transported to Sakaar after his fight with Captain America in CA:TFA. He enslaved the people and created an empire, just like he’d wanted to rule Earth. Of course if Red Skull shows up at some point before this, the Red King will be someone else. They have an Infinity Gem. Hulk defeats the Red King, and the people all wish to appoint him new king. The Other then confronts Hulk again. He demands the gem. They fight, and the other places a reprogramed Obedience Disk on Hulk. The escapes Sakaar and takes Hulk with him.
    • In the ending scenes, we see Hulk in a distant galaxy. HE is then confronted by Thanos, who manipulates him into believing that the Council had since him leaving destroyed Sakaar, and that it was the Avengers who had agreed to this plan. Having angered the Hulk Thanos then uses the Obedience Disk to control Hulk.

    And this is where it would lead into The Avengers 3. Rather than full on WWH, we’d get elements of it.

    • Thanos sends Hulk back to Earth. Hulk, still under Thanos’ influence, attacks the Avengers and the council, causing chaos. He defeats both, destroying the council completely. This draws Thor to Earth, allowing Thanos to invade Asgard, and steal the Gauntlet. He then places the gems into it, and then we have our Infinity Gauntlet story. Hulk will eventually be contained and told that Thanos had manipulated him, Thor learns of the gauntlet being stolen, and then we have Avengers vs. Thanos for the rest of the film.
     
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  3. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    ^So, basically reducing Thanos' Infinity Gauntlet story to the second half of Avengers 3? A third reel climax? Don't think so.
     
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    Still pretty imaginative if you ask me. We know how Hollywood likes to shoe-horn these major arcs in the final act. Two-Face, Dark Pheonix, Venom. It is what it is.

    You can't do an Avengers vs Hulk movie, but you can certainly do it as an opening sequence. Preferably save the Infinite Guantlet for another trilogy. Maybe they do both films back to back. POTC, Harry Potter, LOTR, and now Avatar doing the same things.
     
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    Dind't mean that. Have Hulk's return and Thanos' aquisition of the Gauntlet in the first act. Second act onward would be Thanos' attack.

    I'm certain that Thanos will be in Avengers 2 as well, so I'm sure he'll have plenty of time to shine.
     
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  6. Mr. Dent

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    I'm almost certain Thanos will have the Gauntlet in A2. They've already done the MCU version of the Cosmic Cube, and he couldn't get his hands on it. Now he's moving on to courting Death. A3 probably won't have much if anything to do with Thanos himself.
     
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  7. Dark Raven

    Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

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    So just to clarify, was the PH and WWH scoops meant to be the answer to these various clues from before (eg the diamond hand shape, the air force thing and the comic covers etc)? If so, how does it fulfill all those criteria?
     
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    Mr. Dent Well-Known Member

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    -Clue 1: Illuminati
    -Clue 2: Air craft
    -Clue 3: Hulk was one of the character in the picture and the Planet Hulk/WWH graphic novels are all sold out
    -Clue 4: Space
     
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  9. jaqua99

    jaqua99 ....I need a horse!

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    are you going by word of mouth? He's never been wrong because he writes his articles shortly after something is announced. A lot of articles cite another website that confirms it. However, when it comes to scoops like, saying soemthing that isn't announced, eh, not nearly as impressive. The black panther scoop was false. However, he has "his good record" to back it up.
    the work of a good con artist.
     
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  10. HighFivingMF

    HighFivingMF Welp.

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    The Black Panther thing wasn't false, Marvel later prioritized Guardians ahead of it because then they could expand on Thanos and it would tie in better to Avengers 2.
     
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  11. jaqua99

    jaqua99 ....I need a horse!

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    he said it would be the second movie of 2014...so..it was false lol
     
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    Whether they planned it or not, it was still false. I'm sure they'd like to do Black Panther at some point and still would like to do it, but the scoop still panned out as false.
     
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  13. jaqua99

    jaqua99 ....I need a horse!

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    exactly. they WANT to do an inhumans movie. If I wrote a scoop saying they will be in phase 2..like last summer, and it turned out to be false, would it somehow be credible just because they want/have plans to do it? no.

    his scoop was that BP was second movie of 2014. and it was false
     
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    If Del Toro doesn't handle that Heaven Sent movie for WB, then Marvel should have him do a Midnight Sons movie starring Strange, Namor, Blade, Man-Thing, Moon Knight, Jennifer Kale, Daimon Hellstrom, Ghost Rider(if they have the rights by then) and Werewolf by Night. I think Brother Voodoo and Clea should be involved in some capacity as well.
     
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  15. cherokeesam

    cherokeesam SHIELD Director Coulson

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    I'd love to see that, and I'd love to see GDT work with Marvel in *any* capacity; however, keep in mind that Marvel are currently keeping him in a holding pattern over his Hulk TV show. The show is vaporware for now, and Del Toro has said that he turned in his pilot script already and is still waiting to hear back. Ball's in their court. It'd be a damn shame for Marvel to waste good talent like that when it's right there on their doorstep.
     
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    That's true. I doubt that Hulk show's happening anytime soon, but it has more of a chance than the Midnight Sons at this point.
     
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  17. R_Hythlodeus

    R_Hythlodeus Nerd Supreme

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    GdT is a very, very busy director, attached to 5 or 6 movie projects at the same time. As much as I love those of his movies that actually happen, a lot of them never will be made (see: The Hobbit or Frankenstein) and to hire him is a big potentially risk
     
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    GTD's so busy though. And I want At the Mountains of Madness. I'd even sacrifice a Midnight Sons flick to get it.
     
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    Not sure how DC/Warners Bros will compete with these Marvel Cinematic Universe movies.
     
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  20. Mr. Dent

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    They'll find a way. Unlike most people I think a JL movie can work, since DC comics aren't nearly as tie-in heavy as Marvel comics anyway. It would be representation of the difference between the two in the comics on the big screen.
     
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    That requires they be able to make *individual* good movies, though. Aside from Nolan, they do not have a good track record.
     
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    https://maskofreason.wordpress.com/2...-the-avengers/

    I don't know if people have read this but the gist of it is that Loki planned to get captured by the Avengers so he could get sent back to Asgard to try to take over and rule and that he is *possibly* going to give the IG to Thanos.

    I would say if this was Whedon's game plan then it's perfect because it set's everything up so nicely for Thanos. Plus from the spoilers we've been given about Thor 2 I could see a ending or post-credit scene in where during the attack on Asgard the IG was stolen and given to Thanos leading to him in GotG and A2
     
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  23. R_Hythlodeus

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    I'm 100% sure it won't be an extension of the MCU
     
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  24. metaphysician

    metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    I'm highly dubious it will ever get made.
     
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  25. Hawkingbird

    Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop

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    I agree. It's like the Deadpool movie.
     
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