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Well they didn't as far as we know. People always just assumed that The Avengers happened in 2012.
A date was given in Season 2 Episode 6 of agents of SHIELDWell they didn't as far as we know. People always just assumed that The Avengers happened in 2012.
A date was given in Season 2 Episode 6 of agents of SHIELD
As R already said, Vision only referred to Iron Man 1. In fact General Ross referred to The Avengers taking place in 2012, by saying "in the last 4 years you've been operating..." - people trying to correct the timeline will count that line as referring to the Age of Ultron ending team, but that's even more ridiculous (Cap's new team active for 4 years between AoU & Civil War? Seriously? Longer than the main team?).
Or even count Ross as referring to when the the main team got back together after TWS, but Falcon states that it's only been 2 years between TWS and Civil War.
I think the Russos/Markus & McFeely were trying to set the timeline in stone, and properly so if anything.
Oh come on, Homecoming wasn't that badWhy assume it wasn't the vastly lower quality production who made the mistake?
Oh come on, Homecoming wasn't that bad
A date was given in Season 2 Episode 6 of agents of SHIELD
As pointed out as well, Iron Man 3 has some very clear dates in it. To me, the question is whether Spider-Man Homecoming is an error or a retcon. If it's a retcon, then those dates elsewhere were valid, they've just been retconned.
Without any discussion of timelines, what should the viewing order of the movies be? I think it should be this:
Captain America: The First Avenger
Iron Man
Iron Man 2
Thor
Incredible Hulk (the Stark-Ross scene comes after Iron Man 2)
Avengers (The Battle of New York)
Iron Man 3 (aftermath)
Thor: Dark World (aftermath and Collector scene leads into GOTG)
GOTG
GOTG2
Captain America: Winter Soldier (twins scene leads into A:AOU)
Avengers: Age of Ultron
Ant-Man
Captain America: Civil War
Spider-Man: Homecoming
Doctor Strange (end scene sets up Thor:Ragnarok)
Thor: Ragnarok
I have been trying to tell people this is a retcon for weeks. I will post the updated timeline as soon as I can get it together.Someone over at Reddit brought up that the junior novelization of Homecoming references the events of The Avengers happening five years ago. Because novelizations are based on scripts, possibly early versions in this case, that would imply that they were originally going for the 5 years. And that would mean that the change to 8 years was indeed intentional, making this a retcon instead of an error.
looks more like the writer of the novelization looked at the calendar and realized how f***ing big they botched the timeline in that movieSomeone over at Reddit brought up that the junior novelization of Homecoming references the events of The Avengers happening five years ago. Because novelizations are based on scripts, possibly early versions in this case, that would imply that they were originally going for the 5 years. And that would mean that the change to 8 years was indeed intentional, making this a retcon instead of an error.
That's not how novelizations are made.looks more like the writer of the novelization looked at the calendar and realized how f***ing big they botched the timeline in that movie
look, it's simple, I'm too furious right now about the Victor von Doom movie to cope with bat**** crazy IM3 didn't happen, because the twist made my butt hurt conspiracy theories, so I'll just ignore this post ever happend, okay?That's not how novelizations are made.
The writers are given the script, concept art and other materials to write a book. Later in production, things can be changed and cause discrepancies between the book and the movie. There is the "EIGHT YEARS LATER" and two separate lines of dialogue in the film referring to a span of eight years. All three of these were most likely written in an early version of the script as five years (which makes sense as the film came out in 2017, five years after the Avengers hit theaters.)
Yeah the truth can be tough sometimes hahalook, it's simple, I'm too furious right now about the Victor von Doom movie to cope with bat**** crazy IM3 didn't happen, because the twist made my butt hurt conspiracy theories, so I'll just ignore this post ever happend, okay?
That's not how novelizations are made.
The writers are given the script, concept art and other materials to write a book. Later in production, things can be changed and cause discrepancies between the book and the movie. There is the "EIGHT YEARS LATER" and two separate lines of dialogue in the film referring to a span of eight years. All three of these were most likely written in an early version of the script as five years (which makes sense as the film came out in 2017, five years after the Avengers hit theaters.)
Civil War said Iron Man happened EIGHT YEARS AGO.
Yeah the end of the movie. So that means that happened in the same year as The Avengers.Just that he came out as Iron Man 8 years ago. That would be the end of the movie not the beginning.
Yeah the end of the movie. So that means that happened in the same year as The Avengers.
That doesn't make sense.Not really because while Iron Man 1 did start in 2008, it took many months for Tony to build both the arc reactor and his 1st Iron suit, escape from Afghanistan, return to America, and build the red and yellow suit. Tony announcing himself as Iron Man would likely occurred in 2009 while the "6 months later" tag on IM2 puts that film, Thor, and the Incredible Hulk in 2010 based on the timestamp of the Stark Expo, the after credit scene of Agent Caulsen finding Thor's hammer in New Mexico, and news footage of Hulk's rampage in the IM2 ending.
Marvel's One Big Week novelization has Nick Fury saying it took 2 years for his team to find Captain America's frozen body which would place the bookend scenes of the First Avenger in 2011 while both Agents of SHIELD and Daredevil TV series puts the Avengers in 2012.