Didn't he have a hand in making the 1st couple of x-men movies tho? Maybe hes nostalgic towards them? There's an entire universe already established here with the Fox X-Men. Rebooting a franchise always comes with risks. Financial risks etc. Will the audience connect with the new actors and storylines etc. Maybe Feige feels a sense of duty to try and salvage the the Foxverse who knows?
True, he did, but you gotta also keep in mind that while he did help with them, it still necessarily wasn't his vision. With these characters he has a way of giving Marvel Studios even more longevity than it already has. I read somewhere that the real reason Feige is taking his time in giving us X-Men is because he knows those characters can give us 10 years worth of stories. But like you said, who knows, we'll see.
Didn't he have a hand in making the 1st couple of x-men movies tho? Maybe hes nostalgic towards them? There's an entire universe already established here with the Fox X-Men. Rebooting a franchise always comes with risks. Financial risks etc. Will the audience connect with the new actors and storylines etc. Maybe Feige feels a sense of duty to try and salvage the the Foxverse who knows?
Fox has already went through major characters and exhausted major story arcs that Marvel may want to tackle in their own X-Men movies. If anything, it makes no sense to want to be weighed down by 20 years of baggage and limit themselves. Feige is smarter than that
Didn't he have a hand in making the 1st couple of x-men movies tho? Maybe hes nostalgic towards them? There's an entire universe already established here with the Fox X-Men. Rebooting a franchise always comes with risks. Financial risks etc. Will the audience connect with the new actors and storylines etc. Maybe Feige feels a sense of duty to try and salvage the the Foxverse who knows?
Feige had very little control on how those movies were made. One has to remember he was not in the same position he was now when he was involved in those movies. He’s been on record in saying that studios like Fox or Universal ignored most of his suggestions when he was only an associate or executive producer on movies that Marvel didn’t make in-house. This won’t be the case for the MCU.
I mean, we know that Reynolds is returning. And I'd love to get to keep Anya Talyor-Joy and Maisie Williams. But other than that - Yes. Give me Denzel as Xavier, PLEASE!
Didn't he have a hand in making the 1st couple of x-men movies tho? Maybe hes nostalgic towards them? There's an entire universe already established here with the Fox X-Men. Rebooting a franchise always comes with risks. Financial risks etc. Will the audience connect with the new actors and storylines etc. Maybe Feige feels a sense of duty to try and salvage the the Foxverse who knows?
I mean, we know that Reynolds is returning. And I'd love to get to keep Anya Talyor-Joy and Maisie Williams. But other than that - Yes. Give me Denzel as Xavier, PLEASE!
I dunno about that, it's got the saggy neck like Cap's A1 suit, and would probably look even worse in live action
I feel like the cowl has to be done the way they've done Caps more recent helmets (or Batman in TDK), detached from the collar, or just don't do the cowl
I do appreciate the Jensen Ackles though...lol... but I think he's a bit older than they'll go for on Cyke
I dunno about that, it's got the saggy neck like Cap's A1 suit, and would probably look even worse in live action
I feel like the cowl has to be done the way they've done Caps more recent helmets (or Batman in TDK), detached from the collar, or just don't do the cowl
I do appreciate the Jensen Ackles though...lol... but I think he's a bit older than they'll go for on Cyke
Kitty being Peter's age could have worked if Disney acquired Fox's assets 3 years earlier than they did and they were able to establish an Ultimate Spider-Man-esque dynamic (since I assume this is what you are thinking of)
But it doesn't work now, because Peter is on his way out of High-school and by the time the X-Men actually show up, (lets say in 2024)- he'll be 20 at minimum assuming Marvel lets him age in real time after graduation.
Exactly. You know how unlikely it be he will age in real time? None of the actors have why should Peter be any different? Remember only about 4-5 years have passed in the MCU as a whole.
Well, because he wasn't referring to the X-Men, he waa referring to mutants as a whole. He says in the video I linked to you that he puts Deadpool in the same general category as "mutants" too since Wade Wilson is an X-Universe character. Does that mean Deadpool 3 is gonna be called "The mutant with a mouth"-? No, I don't think so.
The Fantastic Four are the Fantastic Four, they don't exist under a larger brand made of many different subsidiary branches (I.e Deadpool, Wolverine, New Mutants, X-Force etc) like the X-Men do. So I agree that it was strategic, but in the sense that he's focused on firmly establishing the mutant species first- in the wider MCU, before he gets to the X-Men.
I don't buy that. Everyone knows that X-Men have subsidiary teams and characters associated with them and that they are mutants especially the people in that room. Which is the same reason why people blanket Gaurdians or Sheild with Avengers for example.
His language could definitely still indicate he has a different idea to make them a bit more grounded. That being said they most likely will have brighter uniforms than Fox's version but I do expect some distinction visually.
For the record, one of many ideas I've had for reimagining the X-Men in the MCU is similar to what you have in mind.
I'd have them (the Original 5 specifically) be kids recruited into an underground Government program (Headlined by what's left of SHIELD) that weaponizes their powers and turns them into child soldiers. Think Hawkins Lab from Stranger Things.
Charles Xavier being the world's foremost leading geneticist on the "X-Gene hypothesis"-- would be brought on by the Government to be a part of this "Department X" branch & train these kids. Over the years, he'd form a close bond with the kids and grow to resent how they are being treated in these facilities. They'd do many secret missions together.
The final mission ends in tragedy as they go up against Magneto and his Brotherhood. Xavier (with Moira MacTaggert's help) locks Erik's mind but loses the use of his legs during the fight-- and the X-Men (who were teasingly mocked in the facilities as "X-Babies" or "X-Kids" over the years) are now legal adults, refuse to continue the program.
So Xavier walks away with his students and we pick up a year later after this prologue. Xavier has started his own school and we have a new team of mutants.
A major theme in the story could be about taking control of your own destiny and 'Being who YOU wanna be; being true to thyself- and not letting other people tell you who you are and what your purpose is."
The X-Men are creating their own identity and taking charge of their own destiny. We'll see what that destiny entails & where it takes them in their journey through the MCU.
Also the Government could use the data collected from their time in the program to help builld anti-mutant weapons in future films
Some of the ideas here I really like but the government worker who feels bad for the humanoid experiment in a lab and tries to break them out trope is kind of played out.
Also those suits look less individualized than the ones I was purposing and they look idententical to First Class's uniforms. I thought you wanted to get away from that aesthetic?
I said the movie itself should have it's own style & aesthetic, that is different from the Avengers which is why I mentioned score as that's one element of a film that goes a long way in establishing it's identity.
Okay, I think I understand. I think you want to say that it can be either/ or and I am not so sure it is that simple.
Just making the film have a different atmosphere is not going to really make it more believable for them to wear larger than life costumes as these underdog superheroes.
All I am proposing is their underdog look be visually represented in some way. If they are still visually identical to the Avengers it might make them look more out of place in a darker toned film honestly.
I was being sarcastic mostly with that comment btw haha (Ellen is a horrendous woman but I won't hold that against you)
But that's different from the in-story, in-universe justification for why the X-Men would wear colorful costumes. And that is because they want to at least attempt to make public feel safe and secure when they are out superheroing, so they look to the definite image of a "superhero" in media. In the MCU, that image is going to be that of the Avengers. Spider-Man too was inspired them because it makes sense in the context of this universe.
What do you mean inspired he was given his wardrobe like a puppet with a hand up his @$$ from Tony? As I said before Spider-Man was not integrated into the universe the best imo. He seemed like a kept boy for Tony's ego and paternal aspirations before he actually became a father.
Now obviously, the X-Men's attempt to be heroes does not work out in their favor -- Feared and hated, and all that jazz. But if you want a logical justification for why they'd wear such "Garish" outfits then there's your reason
But why if you are serving and framing your group in the exact same way though other than the score? People will see right through that as trite. What would even make the public know that they are even a different group than The Avengers in the first place?
I know how you feel man. someone just likened my design to that and I did not take it as a compliment either. That is the only reason why it is fresh in my mind. lol
They look a bit like these too which are much better at least.
I do see some similarities though. The way the Xs are carved into the armor and the neckline and overall body.
I like the design I just think we can do better. Also, I am not a fan of X's everywhere on a design. It instantly cheapens the look IMO.
Yeah, if it was Colossus and Wolverine instead, that would be pretty much the quintessential X-Men team right there
but Fox had Lawrence and would not let her go, and QS was just stickin it to marvel studios
Yeah has Quicksilver ever been a mainline X-Men as a member? I think Brotherhood or X-Factor when I think of him.
Since we are sharing sketches (he said bashfully) I am about to contradict myself and post a design with Xs everywhere but I like this lineup for the first film.
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