Marvel Films MCU X-Men - Part 4

[Marvel united]

Big question there. I think I'll just post my idea for a first film for now so I'm not posting one giant novel. Wrote a huge wall of text up but I was rambling and I think bullet points are clearer.

• Storm appears first in BP2. Rogue appears first in Captain Marvel 2 as an antagonist who drains Marvel powers before switching sides.
• Danvers herself knows what it's like to be manipulated into fighting for the wrong cause, I think she'd see herself in Rogue and could become a mentor to her.
  
• Xavier, Beast, Moira McTaggery as faculty.
• Storm, Rogue, Jubilee, Forge, Pixie, Tattoo, Quentin Quire, Sunfire as the first class.
• Big focus on the teens learning to control their powers and teenage/highschool stuff in the first act.
• Jubilee is the POV. Pixie is Jubilee's best friend. Sunfire the aloof loner. Quire and Storm both show promise as the group's leader.
  
• The Friends of Humanity, lead by Graydon Creed are stirring up hatred against mutants and even tracking down and killing mutants.
  
• The X-men form because these teens want to showcase the best of mutant-kind. They begin doing volunteer work, catching petty thieves etc.
• Cyclops manifests his powers and destroys his house. FoH are drawn to the scene to enact vigilante justice.
• The teen X-men go behind Xavier's back to rescue Cyclops. Pixie is killed in the confrontation with FoH.
• Cyclops is bought into the mansion
• Quire rallies Tattoo and Jubilee on a vengeance mission against FoH, but Jubilee backs out as things get serious. Tattoo and Quire kill a FoH member in cold blood. Jubilee flees back to the mansion.
• With Quire and Tattoo in the wind, Forge helps Xavier and Beast build Cerebro to track them down.
• Quire and Tattoo break into a private lab to steal an experimental serum which will increase their mutant powers. Good showcase of Tattoos phasing powers.
• The climax is a three-way fight between the FoH, Quire/Tattoo and the X-men. A FoH rally devolves into a city-wide riot and witch-hunt against mutants. Quire and Tattoo are out to kill as many FoH members as possible. The X-men are trying to reduce civilian casualties as much as possible.
• The climax could feature mutants being attacked across New York city. We could introduce characters for future films here. The X-men could rescue characters like Iceman and Nightcrawler who would return as major characters in the sequel.
• After remaining aloof for much of the film, Sunfire comes in during the climax to help the X-men. He doesn't join the team but chooses to fight for mutant-kind on his own terms.
  
• The film ends with Quire killing Graydon Creed before being subdued and apprehended by the X-men. We end with the future uncertain for mutants. Quire caused much destruction in New York, casting mutants in a dangerous light. Creed is held up as a martyr by anti-mutant extremists. But the X-men remain a symbol of human/mutant cooperation.
• Post-credits scene back at the secret lab. This lab doesn't belong to just anybody, it belongs to Mr. Sinister.

I really like this! This is completely different and fresh from anything we've seen before, sets up new & old characters with themes being embodied in new ways, whilst still staying true to the spirit. It reminds me of Homecoming in that sense.

I guess I'll try my hand at a contemporary, fresh "reimagining" of the X-Men from the ground up that's inspired from your pitch

'The X-Men' -

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- In the 5 years since the devastating events of 'Avengers: Endgame', a new race of human beings have begun to emerge around the world. The Xavier Foundation For Orphaned Youth is a foster home for young runaways and/or abandoned, scared mutants who need a place to call home.


- Jubilation Lee (12) is transferred to the new home where she meets: Ororo Munroe (19) Scott Summers (17), Jean Grey (16), Sooraya Qadir (15), Barnell Bohusk (14), Bobby Drake (15) and Joanna Cargill (17) -- Hank McCoy (34) is among the handful of foster parents (Sean Cassidy (44), Moira MacTaggert (42) )


- The Brotherhood is a street gang that otherwise serves the same purpose as Xavier's home except it's an underground band of misfits and rebels run by Irene Adler (55) aka Destiny. Members include Rogue (14), Avalanche (19), Toad (18), Phantazia (27) and Rand0m (34)


- The kids hear rumors about the Brotherhood at school and soon the gang decides to reveal itself to the world and "rise up" against humans, believing they are inherently superior beings. Running a recruitment campaign through social media and other platforms to spread anarchist propaganda to angry/disgruntled mutants. News organizations take notice of this activity as fear and uncertainty starts to spread. Politician Henry P. Gyrich also takes notice as well as the host of the infamous radio show "Friends of Humanity": Grayden Creed (Think Alex Jones)

- The kids decide to do something; to take action. They want to counter the Brotherhood's message of division and hate and show people that mutants can be a force for good too. The kids create yellow-blue uniforms (think Spidey's homemade suit) complete with masks, and come up with superhero names for themselves: Cyclops, Marvel Girl, Storm, Beak, Dust, Frenzy, Iceman and Jubilee-- and they begin using their powers to help people, raising money for social services, food banks, charity as well as fighting petty crime. The locals nickname the masked mutant samaritans- 'X-Men'


- Meanwhile, the Brotherhood becomes a terroristic threat and launch their first attack on a Grayden Creed hosted Town Hall meeting with Gyrich and Robert Kelly to discuss the "mutant issue". Mass hysteria ensues and with the X-Men's TRUE call to action now clear, they realize that they must stop the Brotherhood.

Key plot points of Act 2:

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The X-Men have Joanna/Frenzy infiltrate the Brotherhood to get information on their next attack which happens to be in Central Park since Kelly is planning on holding a rally there (he's running for president). The X-Men successfully stop the Brotherhood and they swear revenge. Kelly begins to fear mutants


- The Brotherhood attack Bayville High School looking for the X-Men and as the school evacuates, an epic fight happens in the Cafeteria. An FBI investigation led by Valerie Cooper traces the Brotherhood back to their hideout


- Joanna ends up joining the Brotherhood having become radicalized and Beak who has been bullied non-stop for his appearance, does the same in an emotional falling out between the team


- A SWAT team raids the Brotherhood's base and Beak is killed in the skirmish. The X-Men watch from the news and Scott feels immense guilt and doubts himself, doubts the team and the path that he led to Beak's death. Ororo reassures Scott that the X-Men can be a symbol of hope and an agent of change, where people like Beak do not have to live in fear because of how they were born.

Enter Act 3: ......Haven't thought of a satisfying climax just yet

Breakfast Club meets Moonlight but with superpowers. This is 100% focused on the X-Men and their journey from kids to heroic symbols. School aspect replaced with foster home aspect to empathize the X-Men's familiar bond and bring the X-Mansion back to it's original function. Xavier would create the school by the end of this movie to help mutants control their abilities

- 'The X-Men' (2025)
- 'X-Men: Mutant Massacre' (2028)
- 'Avengers vs. X-Men' (2030)
- 'X-Men: Fatal Attractions (2033)

 

[Protar]

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ohh I like this idea! A former student of Xavier’s going rogue and causing havoc is a good way to start off. Instead of Tattoo I would place Avalanche there since he’s long overdue and at the end of the chaos he escapes (later to be found by Magneto). Also in a sequel you can bring in Jean and Xavier wanting to do right by her seeing as he failed with Quire who was his prized pupil. Also I think Quire should be left for the authorities the X-Men believe he meant well but Xavier has no remorse for students who breaks the rules or believe Mutants are superior (hints at his friendship with Eric). I think cyclops should be there from the beginning and the story should be told through the eyes of Storm. Being from Africa and a newcomer to the states for the first time she sees how Mutants are treated. Also jubilee could be the one that blows her house up accidentally. They go to recruit her and from there she gets caught up in Quires plan. Overall I like your ideas!!!!!

Thanks for the feedback. To be honest I wasn't sure on introducing Cyclops later on as it could lead to him getting less focus. But I also like the idea of starting the idea with a bright-eyed Jubilee as the pov.

I suppose you could split the mutant's confrontation with the FoH into two. The first being Jubilee's activation, then she's recruited and becomes best friends with Pixie. Then in their second confrontation Pixie is killed. Meanwhile Cyclops is there from the start and perhaps we are introduced to the institute through him.

I included Tattoo as Quire's second simply because from what I've read she's part of his gang in the comics, but you could swap them out for other characters.

 

[Protar]

@Marvel united Some really good stuff there. I like it. I do think it's important to have some visibly mutant characters be it Beak, Marrow or even just Nightcrawler. The fact that some mutants are very visibly mutated whereas others can pass as normal is an important point to explore.

I like the exploring how social media might play a part in all this. Playing off of that, just a spontaneous thought, maybe a J. Jonah Jameson cameo given his Alex Jones-esque reimagining in the MCU.

However I would be wary of too many characters. I think we need to establish the X-men as a team before we pit them against another team of mutants.

 

[Mad Ones]

If Kevin Feige came to you and asked you to map out the first MCU X-Men trilogy, what would that look like? What storylines/characters would you use? @Mad Ones @CaptainWagner @Protar

I would actually stay away from a trilogy style structure but to use that language anyway:

Trilogy 1: Genetics, Machines, & Futures

Potential storylines include Krakoa/Savage Land, Mister Sinister, Morlocks, Bishop's future, Forge's neutralizing gun, and/or Sentinels/Nimrod/Mastermold.

Storm, Jean, and Cyclops are the only essential X-men for me and I'm flexible about other members of the team.

Throw in a MCU event centred on Rogue and Captain Marvel.

 

[fan4stic]

I like the exploring how social media might play a part in all this. Playing off of that, just a spontaneous thought, maybe a J. Jonah Jameson cameo given his Alex Jones-esque reimagining in the MCU.

Does JJ have a problem with mutants in the comics particularly? If not, why do that? I think it diminishes the character's writing either way.

I prefer social media not be that involved in any of this movies that heavily.

 

[fan4stic]

Like Uncle Ben and Gamma radiated Hulk, I think Marvel's "mutants" have entered common knowledge.

I prefer that we don't not talk about it or mention the name or not really develop with the character's emotional connections to it in these movies. I think Gamma radiation has been mentioned.

 

[Mad Ones]

I just mean that the audience doesn't need to hear another excerpt from Xavier's dissertation to know what Marvel's mutants are lol.

 

[Marvel united]

I would actually stay away from a trilogy style structure but to use that language anyway:

Trilogy 1: Genetics, Machines, & Futures

Potential storylines include Krakoa/Savage Land, Mister Sinister, Morlocks, Bishop's future, Forge's neutralizing gun, and/or Sentinels/Nimrod/Mastermold.

Storm, Jean, and Cyclops are the only essential X-men for me and I'm flexible about other members of the team.

Throw in a MCU event centred on Rogue and Captain Marvel.

This is all great stuff! I certainly hope that X-Men isn't limited to a trilogy structure (although i say that just to be safe), because there is wayyy too much story to be told. The Avengers got 4 movies, maybe we could get 5-6 for the main X-Men? I'd love if the second "trilogy" focused on a post M-Day aka "No more mutants" MCU and we got Utopia and elements of the Messsiah Complex trilogy. It's tough imaging what their Endgame would be tho I'd imagine it'll be in the mid to late 2030s

It's hard to pin down a good plan cause there are so many great storylines Marvel can use.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Ryan on his Deadpool at Marvel:

"Oh, man, I really don’t know. It’s just all so new with it being over at Marvel now, and, you know, figuring out the ins and outs as much as I can, from where I sit. We’ll see."

"I don’t feel like an insider at all. I think once I’m more intimate with it – if we get to make a Deadpool 3… if or when we get to make a Deadpool 3, I’ll probably have a better perspective on that. But I’m a huge fan of Marvel, and how they make movies. So when Disney bought Fox, I only saw that as a good thing. Deadpool hopefully being allowed to play in that sandbox, I think is just a win for everyone involved. But we’ll certainly see."

 

[SumT]

doesnt sound like they have talked s*** to him after all this time, lol.
Deadpool 3 isnt coming anytime soon

 

[Fincher]

I just mean that the audience doesn't need to hear another excerpt from Xavier's dissertation to know what Marvel's mutants are lol.

Any version of a story needs to stand on its own, so nothing is part of the MCU X-Men until it's established as being part of the MCU X-Men. The audience being familiar with the property can allow the movies to cover the material a little faster without confusing them, but either something's there or it isn't. If they want there to be an X-gene, they do need Xavier or someone else to say that.

 

[Mad Ones]

Any version of a story needs to stand on its own, so nothing is part of the MCU X-Men until it's established as being part of the MCU X-Men. The audience being familiar with the property can allow the movies to cover the material a little faster without confusing them, but either something's there or it isn't. If they want there to be an X-gene, they do need Xavier or someone else to say that.

In one second and not a monologue.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

I’m really excited for Marvel to tease Apocalypse. If they do him like they did Thanos It’s going to be great! Age of Apocalypse should be a two part event film. All of the X-Men adventures leading up this.

 

[Mad Ones]

This page is so good and it would be a shame not to see this on screen while Marvel has Captain Marvel in play and the film rights to Rogue. Obviously I want this for Rogue's sake, but it's a good story for Carol too because it tests her and Binary is objectively better than Captain Marvel

 

[Charzhin0]

That would be neat to delve into, but not if its as half assed as the Monica Rambo-Carol Danvers past 'story arc' we got in Captain Marvel.

 

[Marvel united]

This page is so good and it would be a shame not to see this on screen while Marvel has Captain Marvel in play and the film rights to Rogue. Obviously I want this for Rogue's sake, but it's a good story for Carol too because it tests her and Binary is objectively better than Captain Marvel

This is the meat of Rogue. Her internal conflict... Isn't her own, and she struggles with that.

Carol is basically a god in the MCU. To have some random girl from small-town Mississippi usurp that power from her would be a powerful moment in the MCU and a great opportunity for a character study of Carol Danvers

It's also a great way to illustrate how dangerous and unpredictable mutants can be

 

[Iceman]

This is all great stuff! I certainly hope that X-Men isn't limited to a trilogy structure (although i say that just to be safe), because there is wayyy too much story to be told. The Avengers got 4 movies, maybe we could get 5-6 for the main X-Men? I'd love if the second "trilogy" focused on a post M-Day aka "No more mutants" MCU and we got Utopia and elements of the Messsiah Complex trilogy. It's tough imaging what their Endgame would be tho I'd imagine it'll be in the mid to late 2030s

It's hard to pin down a good plan cause there are so many great storylines Marvel can use.

The Avengers will surely get more films. They’ve got 4 films in the top 11 of worldwide box office and room to introduce more characters and develop existing ones further (even if the loss of some originals is a blow).

I feel these large team films with enough historical members to support long term rotating rosters can just keep going while the quality is there.

 

[Silvermoth]

I think I found the perfect Sunfire after watching Giri/Haji. His name is Will Sharpe and he’s an absolutely spectacular actor. He even studied in the same review which produced people like Stephen fry, Hugh Laurie and Emma Thompson

 

[SumT]

Doesnt look like Sunfire at all. but more like a nerd asian version of FC Beast.

Im sure Marvel can get someone with a better image, more imposing and.... handsome, why not. (no shade to the actor, but image matters in Hollywood too)

 

[Marvel united]

I think I found the perfect Sunfire after watching Giri/Haji. His name is Will Sharpe and he’s an absolutely spectacular actor. He even studied in the same review which produced people like Stephen fry, Hugh Laurie and Emma Thompson

Good choice. Sunfire would be a good member to have on the team, he has potential to be the loose canon and a great source of conflict

This also has me thinking about the team lineup of the first movie... Will Marvel want never-before-seen characters like Sunfire?

Doesnt look like Sunfire at all. but more like a nerd asian version of FC Beast.

Im sure Marvel can get someone with a better image, more imposing and.... handsome, why not. (no shade to the actor, but image matters in Hollywood too)

...Right.

 

[SumT]

I wasnt talking about abs and his body.

 

[DawnWarrior]

There's a lot of potential by having the X-Men visit different parts of the world for missions, James Bond-style, and run into local mutants/b-level characters there. A mission takes them to Japan, they meet Sunfire, yay now Sunfire's in the MCU. They have to go to Australia, they meet Gateway. They go to Italy, they meet Guido. (I know he's Italian-AMERICAN, but may as well.)

 

[Marvel united]

I wasnt talking about abs and his body.

Chris Pratt wasn't imposing or a "leading man" before he underwent the Marvel training regime. Now he's a total stud

This guy looks like a "nerd" in that picture because that look fits that particular character he's playing. Here's another picture of him as a completely different character/personality:


Actors can play more than one type of character.

 

[HRPUFFSTUFF]

Here is my second X-Men movie

X-Men 2

Prolog- Magneto makes his way through what looks like a war zone in an attempt to get his kids to a plane while they are being attacked by soldiers. Magneto puts them on the plane and when he sees that if they want to get away he will need to cover their escape and jumps out and takes the fight to the soldiers.

Years later-

The X-Men track a mutant into Canada where they find out that this Mutant is Eric Lehnsherr. The mission goes sideways with loss of life and Magneto getting away. This incident makes the news with Lehnsherr’s face all over the place.

Later Valery Cooper informs Xavier that the government in accordance with the Sokovia Accords has sent her to oversee and control the school and the X-Men. The Mutants at the school are divided: some support the temporary lock down, while others have more faith their own judgment than that of politicians.

Meanwhile at a rally for the FOH Magneto kills all the members in attendance. Xavier learns the whereabouts of Magneto and breaks the lockdown sending the X-Men to bring him in. The authorities and a third party known as Logan intentions to find him and kill him causing a four way fight when they all collide. The X-Men hold off the Strike team while Logan and Magneto engage each other only for Magneto to get the upper hand when he uses his powers of magnetism on the adamantium on his bones to incapacitate Logan.

The X-Men are able to stop Magneto but everyone is taken in by O.N.E. with their Sentinels’. While being processed Logan is let go as he is working for Canadas Department H and was sent to bring in Magneto. While in holding Xavier reveals that he knows Magneto and tells the X-Men via a mind link what he knows.

Word gets back to the school about what happened and a group of students break the lockdown. This group (Angelo Unuscione, Telford Porter, Regan Wyngarde, and Dominikos (Dom) Petrakis) go to the holding facility where the X-Men and Magneto are being held and break them out. A fight breaks out with Beast being critically injured allowing Magneto and the rouge students to get away.

After all of this we find out that Magneto is hunting David Moreau a doctor from Genosha who in the past was responsible for atrocities committed on mutants. Moreau is responsible for the death of Magnetos wife and he is now in the US working with the FOH.

Magneto and his Brotherhood show up at a major FOH event and this time are able to take Moreau. The abduction is caught on live TV forcing Xavier, the X-Men and Logan to go after Magneto. The group head to Genosha where they have a showdown with Magneto and his forces at the Hammer Bay Camp. The teams fight with Logan getting his head messed with by Wyngarde causing him to see flashes of repressed memories. As the outside of the camp is turned into a war zone Xavier goes to stop Magneto from killing Moreau as the doctor pleads for his life saying that he didn’t kill his wife.

Xavier is unable to stop Magneto from killing Moreau and in the aftermath he tells Xavier that he didn’t kill his wife and take his helmet off showing him the memory of his wife’s death. Xavier sees Eric as he is confronted by his wife with a control disc on her temple. She has been lobotomized and turned into a drone. Tears fill his eyes as he magnetically pulls the disc out of her head killing her.

In the end a O.N.E. team fires on the compound causing everyone to flea while at the school all the mutants are rounded up and take to a holding camp.

Mid credit scene- The X-Men free the students and bring them to Muir Island where they are met by a blue haired Beast.

End Credit Scene- Magneto on the street watching Wanda

 

[SumT]

Chris Pratt wasn't imposing or a "leading man" before he underwent the Marvel training regime. Now he's a total stud

This guy looks like a "nerd" in that picture because that look fits that particular character he's playing. Here's another picture of him as a completely different character/personality:
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Actors can play more than one type of character.

he almost doesnt look asian there.
nah, I think we can do better