Supergirl Mehcad Brooks is Jimmy Olsen

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  1. I SEE SPIDEY Eternal

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    I think this Guardian storyline is horrible and the James character is useless. And the character was never really all that interesting and is even less interesting and unlikeable now. Yes, I will now agree that it is a miscast.
     
  2. O'Haire Awesome

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    Not me. He could stay gone and it wouldn't make a difference to the show.
     
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  3. I SEE SPIDEY Eternal

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    I want him to stay gone. I would love if the character was just a written out of the show.
     
  4. O'Haire Awesome

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    Same.

    They clearly don't know what to do with him. His role on the show seemed pointless once they ditched the love interest stuff. Then they give him Guardian and all that did was make him even more unlikable even though he's suppose to be a hero.

    Also doesn't help that Mehcad Brooks has zero chemistry with the rest of the cast and sticks out like a sore thumb.
     
  5. vantheman77 Superman Fan 4 Life

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    All they need to do is have him be killed off in the season finale and have him be revealed as Henry James Olsen!!
     
  6. Lantern Venom Emerald Echo Podcast Co-Host

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    I'd like to see the show nix the Guardian storyline, or use it very sparingly, kill/send away the boring Mon-El, and focus on Jimmy and Kara finally realizing that they have feelings for one another. Jimmy was a more organic character, as was his relationship with Kara, than what we've seen this season.
     
  7. flickchick85 Admin of Might

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    Well, I'm not a huge fan of this Mon-El/Kara romance for writing reasons, but they at least have some chemistry, imo. I thought Melissa and Mehcad had beyond negative romantic chemistry (literally the only time I ever saw any chemistry between them was when they were at each others' throats this season in "We Can Be Heroes"), so I for one hope they NEVER go back to the James/Kara romance.

    I agree with those hoping he gets written off the show. There's nothing left to do with him at this point, imo.
     
  8. haephestus Sidekick

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    I'd like to see Jimmy join Cadmus because they offer him a drug which gives humans super powers and he becomes addicted. Guardian can then be their muscle instead of the relatively lame Cyborg Superman and Metallo.

    At the end of the season, Kara gives him a beating and sends him back to Metropolis for treatment for his addiction. Or he can recur as a villainous Guardian doing dirty work for Cadmus and other evil organisations from time to time.

    Or they can just never speak of him again and we'll assume that Mxy did Supergirl (and all viewers) a favour by erasing Jimmy from existence.
     
  9. flickchick85 Admin of Might

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    Eh, I'd rather not see Jimmy become a villain. He is one of the classic "good guy" characters who, despite his poor handling this season, shouldn't be tarnished like that, imo. I mean, we already had him irreverently shot in the head in his recent movie incarnation, and don't get me started on the stupid Smallville debacle, so I think the character has taken enough abuse in recent years. He's been "Superman's Best Friend" and loyal ally for almost 80 years, and that part of the character at the very least should remain intact, imo.

    But I am TOTALLY cool with sending him packing back to Metropolis, lol.
     
  10. Paradox1 Superhero

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    James Olsen has been better than Mon-El this season in every conceivable way. Mon-El has been a mimbo, a male bimbo, he's been written awful. There is only three characters in this series whose story I actually look forward to. Kara's gets tied into mimbo too much for my liking. Chyler is fine but Jonn gets sidelined far too much and he probably has the best storylines. Except for that Ms. Martian romance, not a fan of it.
     
  11. I SEE SPIDEY Eternal

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    I for the most part like Mon-El. Not a great character yet but I think they are clumsily, trying to give him an arc. From selfish Bro to caring hero.

    I think I'll like him even more when they finish up his arc. I acknowledge that the writing should be better but I've still liked him better than I've ever liked James. And I agree the he has more chemistry with Kara than James ever did. I understand why people don't like him but I do.
     
  12. emarasmoak Civilian

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    Same here. Also the fact that he is an alien makes the plot more interesting for me.
     
  13. Robert_Anthony Sidekick

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    Uh, did someone say James Olsen/Mehcad Brooks?

    HOW CONVENIENT I FIND THIS...

    [​IMG]

    :hehe: :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:

    You might sau he is "guardianing" the pool table.

    I shall take my leave now!
     
  14. Robert_Anthony Sidekick

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    Trying to prove he's a hit with the ladies, James Olsen himself Mehcad Brooks meets up with this Supergirl fan. From his official Instagram...

    And here they are...

    [​IMG]
     
  15. eon001 Sidekick

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    I've been holding this in for the past few seasons, but I have to say I ****ing hate Jimmy.

    And I know why. He's a Gary Stu!
    The guy is perfect! Handsome, smart, top photographer turned company head.
    Part time super hero.
    No personality flaws. Friendly, understanding, rational.

    He's totally un-relatable. The only time he ever worked was when he was clashing with Wynn. They had an awesome odd couple chemistry for a few eps in season 1.

    Now he is completely useless. They REALLY need to write him off. As soon as they killed the romance between him and Kara he lost all purpose.

    I'd love it if he becomes jaded with being part of a corporation and decides to go back to being a humble photographer in Metropolis. Maybe opens a photography studio or something. That's a more natural progression than the head of Catco.
    He can appear occasionally for isolated arcs.

    He has to go. I can't think of a way his character can grow in the show.
    Guardian is stupid and nonsensical (He became Guardian to help Kara but she's a 100 times more powerful than him wtf), and there's no romance on the cards for him. There nothing for him to do.

    EDIT: Skimming through the thread, I see I may have repeated the points already brought up by my fellow posters. I just wanted to post my thoughts before other peoples opinions changed my initial thoughts.
     
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  16. flickchick85 Admin of Might

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    LOL, well at least you know you are not alone, eon.
     
  17. metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    I can't agree that he has no personality flaws. For one, he's passively-aggressively manipulative and abusive of all his friends. For another, he's motivated by a mix of egotism and envy throughout season 2.

    I maintain that the logical place for his story arc to go was "Joining Cadmus, becoming a supervillain". Because his arc in season 2 was that of a supervillain origin story.
     
  18. Kelly #RESIST

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  19. flickchick85 Admin of Might

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    I agree with those flaws, but to me what makes a character truly a Mary Sue/Gary Stu is that the writers (and therefore other characters within the show) don't SEE the flaws that the character has and continually treat them as some sort of moral bastion and generally great guy/gal regardless, which is the root of the problem, imo. They have yet to acknowledge any of those characteristics of James (and even somehow managed to put him in the right in his Great Guardian Debate with Kara) so Jimmy still very much qualifies as a Gary Stu to me.
     
  20. metaphysician Not a Side-Kick

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    I'd cheer Lena's putting him in his place last episode, except I'm pretty sure we're supposed to interpret that as Lena being a bad girl.
     
  21. eon001 Sidekick

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    Yes...

    ..and yes!

    He has flaws but the writers have delivered them as virtuous traits. Like the way he was bullied Wynn into helping him create Guardian because he wanted to be a superhero. They never really highlighted his selfish motivations, and he spent the rest of that season playing superhero.
     
  22. Kelly #RESIST

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    So, you want to nix a relationship that has chemistry between the two actors that is off the charts, for a relationship that had absolutely no chemistry whatsoever between the two actors.

    No thank you....

    PS, I'm actually for Kara being in NO RELATIONSHIP.....just to be clear.
     
  23. flickchick85 Admin of Might

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    I don't agree about any "off the charts" chemistry between Kara/Mon-El (of the romantic kind, anyway...comedic's another story, and at least they HAVE chemistry), but I do agree there was ZERO chemistry between her and Jimmy. And there was nothing "organic" about their relationship, imo - it was forced on us from literally the very first episode. They didn't even bother easing us into it a little bit. I mean they actually went "'Wapow!' Here's our couple! Root for them now!" Which is basically the textbook way to make me NOT want to root for a couple, lol.

    Nixing the Kara/Jimmy romance ASAP was one of their many course corrections last season that I heartily approved of. I just wish they'd handled it more delicately in the writing, as it truly was abrupt in context of the episode.

    But yes, I am ALL FOR single Kara.
     
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  24. Kelly #RESIST

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    So that first kiss, or the 2nd kiss, or the way they looked at each other when she rescues him and Lena you saw no romantic chemistry? Or when they are talking on the couch? Or when he is talking to her and first reveals his feelings for her..."comets" Are you kidding me? Seriously, I can usually go with...ok yeah, I can see your point, but I think we seriously need to talk to your chemistry teacher in high school. :cwink:

    Hell, there was so much chemistry in that first kiss, I told my friends watching with me that there could be problems in paradise for Melissa and her husband. It was that kind of chemistry....
     
  25. flickchick85 Admin of Might

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    Short answer: no. :oldrazz: The 1st kiss I'll give you, but that was pretty much the last time I felt it. But even then something felt off because it came way too soon, imo. It just didn't ring true, so I was glad they "undid" it at the time. Unfortunately, they went in the wrong direction from there, imo.

    But in the early eps, when they were being at or odds or adorable comedic foils? Plenty of chemistry. Or when they were on the couch being cute about musicals, sure. Or as amateur undercover operatives in "Ace Reporter"? Hell yes. But the "comets" scene? Nah, I actually cringed at that. AND the scenes at the end of "Luthors" or "Mr & Mrs. Mxy" when the "tension" was supposed at its peak. I just don't think "serious dramatic romance" was the direction to go with them because that's the part they don't sell AT ALL, imo. They don't smolder. They bounce off each other beautifully, but smoldering is not what they do.
     
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