Michael Jackson II: Legendary Redux!

Discussion in 'Books and Music' started by Darkness Falls, Nov 29, 2010.

  1. Galactus123 Registered

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    Full Billie Jean performance from Buenos Aires 1993:


    Billie Jean Toronto 84 audio:
     
  2. venom892 Coming Home

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    That was utter bliss.:yay: They also had a very awesome movies tribute.
     
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    Full Victory Tour 84 Toronto concert:


    Steve001 from MJJC forum got this from other traders and decided to share it with fans. Even thought the quality of this version is not very good still amazing concert! :)
     
  4. Chris Wallace LET'S DO A HEADCOUNT...

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    Has anyone read Aphrodite Jones' book "Michael Jackson: Conspiracy"? I enjoyed it, but am curious as to what others think. :)
     
  6. Rodrigo90 Wink wink ;)

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    Hi, Joshua.

    I haven't read the book, but I know a few things from it.

    I'm about to become one of the authors at VindicateMJ, if you've heard of it? :)
     
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    Can't say I have, but it sounds interesting. I also have Randall Sullivan's biography on MJ, but I've only read about 100 pages so far. :(
     
  8. Rodrigo90 Wink wink ;)

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    Despite what T Mez recommended, that book is a bummer towards Michael.

    Randall doesn't believe Michael was guilty, sure. But he believes he was gay.

    Michael certainly wasn't. There are many things to corroborate that. But of course, the media doesn't like to report that.

    Here's a link to the site I'm regularly at, I think it's something every MJ fan should be aware of :)
    http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com
     
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    Ouch; is that in his book?

    What's your take on J. Randy Taraborrelli's book? I also put that one down after just a few chapters.

    I've heard about a book by Frank Cascio, and am curious to read it. It amazes me that some of Michael's own family didn't think he recorded those songs. :(
     
  10. Rodrigo90 Wink wink ;)

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    Oh, yes.

    He claims Michael would dress up as a woman and go out and meet men at night for sex :/

    I have Taraborrelli's book. I'm still unsure of it.
    But he still places doubts towards Michael's innocence here and there. What's worse, he claims to be a friend...

    Frank is a Godsend imo.

    When Scott Thorson claimed he and Michael had an affair during the 80's back in 2004(?)
    Frank came out with a long letter on a website.
    He claimed to know all the secrets of Michael's life with women, and I believe him.
    He told us a few things back then, that was only revealed publicly after Michael died. That he and Lisa had been friends with benefits for years after they divorced. Lisa told us that back in 2011. Frank knew it before the world did.
    And that Michael had an affair with a once great singer that people didn't care for anymore, which was revealed to be Whitney Houston after she died.
     
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    Affair as in cheating? Where did you hear that?
     
  12. Rodrigo90 Wink wink ;)

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    I don't think cheating affair. They had a secret relationship in the early 90's or late 80's.
     
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    Damn, Michael was rolling like that? Friends with Benefits with LMP and getting some if Whitney?? Michael was getting some pie!
     
  14. Rodrigo90 Wink wink ;)

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    :funny:

    According to Frank, he was a "dog" :hehe:
     
  15. Rodrigo90 Wink wink ;)

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    Here's Frank's letter in full. It's long, but well worth the read.

    You people are so gullible! I love it, it’s hilarious.

    Anybody who genuinely knows Michael (which is none of you), knows that Michael is straight – almost to a fault of himself, considering that he doesn’t look like the most masculine of brothas. You’re so quyick to believe Scott, which is hysterical because if you knew their history, you’d know how weirded out Michael was by Scott’s advances. Michael’s not overtly homophobic, but he is old school and isn’t completely comfortable with it. However, given the nature of his profession, he has tried his best to be accepting and because he tries to be a good Christian, he does not judge, he leaves that to God. He still gets incredibly uncomfortable by advances by anything remotely male….which brings us to Scott. Scott made a pass at Michael. Michael ignored it, initially. The second time, Michael told him to back the #### off (in more polite language, of course…Michael was still quite young and sweet and innocent back in the ’80s, if a dude tried something similar NOW, he might get punched in the face). They haven’t spoken since then. The closest he ever got to Michael after about ’84 was that his boyfriend was friends with Priscilla Presley’s makeup artist. The two haven’t spoken since Scott tried to get all up on Mikey.

    One may ask themselves, if his motive for coming forward now was out of some sort of moral obligation and a desire to crush MJ’s “strategy” of declaring himself heterosexual, why didn’t he come forward in 1993? Maids, cooks, ex-guards, everybody and their momma was coming forward with “claims,” why not then? Or, if the motivation behind this is genuine concern for the welfare of children and not money, why not go to the police with the things you’ve seen (i.e. Scott claiming to have seen child porn on Michael’s nightstand)?

    Simple, none of it happened and Scott was still livin’ the life with all of Liberace’s dough. Poverty brings forth all sorts of “memories.” Isn’t it convenient that just as soon as his cash stash is running dry, he tells the world he had sex with Michael Jackson?

    Please.

    Let me break this down for you people and pay attention because I don’t like doing it more than once. Michael Jackson is thoroughly heterosexual. He does not like men. He does not like boys. He likes women over the age of 18. ****, even before he was 18, he liked women well over the age of 18. It’s no secret within certain circles that Diana Ross was his first. The poor guy thought he was going to marry her but she ****ed him over with Gene Simmons and Arne Naess. He was pretty naive back then, so he chose not to see the obvious. Then he was celibate for about 3 years, before becoming involved with a pretty, blond employee of his, an actress from a popular ’80s/early ’90s sitcom, a singer that nobody cares about anymore but was the sh.it back in the day, some groupie/secretary, June Chandler (the mother of punk ***** Jordan who got jealous of mommy’s relationship with Michael) and, of course, Lisa Marie. Lisa Marie was the only one he allowed himself to become more than just sexually involved with since Diana, that boy was sprung. Lisa Marie, however, led him to believe they would have a family of their own, but stayed on the pill anyway because even if she said she was a rebel, the little ***** didn’t want mommy dearest to get mad at her for having a lil black child. Mike found the pills, split, messed around with a couple of other women with the goal of getting one pregnant just to hurt Lisa (he can be an as.shole sometimes, true) and eventually knocked up Debbie, which, (if I didn’t love and adore his children and think think they saved his life) I would say was probably one of the biggest mistakes of his life. He was never faithful to Debbie after they married, never even wanted to marry her but Mike doesn’t like to break his mother’s heart. He and Lisa continued having sex until 1999 (they weren’t “together,” they were just ****ing), until he met his third child’s mother, fell very much in love with her, but he is his father’s son, so he wasn’t entirely faithful to her, which is why they split up shortly after she found out she was pregnant. From that time, up until right before these new ******** allegations broke, he was pretty much a dog. No attachment, just sex. He has no time to get attached to somebody and then depressed again after they part ways now that he has his children. I doubt he has time for anybody other than his children and his lawyers now.

    There, you have it. Take it or leave it, but it’s the truth. Mike would hate me for putting his business out here like this, but at least it’s accurate, unlike all of the other trash going around now. He ain’t my boss anymore, so he’s just going to have to put up with it.

    Summary: Scott is full of s.hit, Michael isn’t gay and he sho’ as h.ell ain’t a pedophile.

    1. He’s weird, he’s rich, he’s black and he never bows down to anybody. He doesn’t fit any stereotypes of what a black man “should” be, which makes people uncomfortable and enables them to believe anything sinister about him. If you need proof of that, just look no further than this very message board.

    2. I think I outlined most of the girlfriends for you, if you think hard enough you could probably figure out names, but it’s not my job to spoon feed this to you. He kept Diana a secret because that’s what the hussy wanted and by the time he got his sh.it together enough to move on and get with other women, he was so obsessed with his privacy that he didn’t want the public to know anything about him that didn’t have to do with music or business (and rightfully so, everything he does is misconstrued, manipulated and taken out of context).

    3. Can’t help you there, that’s something you don’t really discuss with Michael. All I can say is that it got more out of hand after he and Diana were officially no more. Nobody around him ever condoned it, I know I certainly didn’t. In all fairness to the kid, most of it is exaggerated. He’s had a lot, but to a fairly localized area, none of this crazy cheekbone, eyebrow, eyelid, forehead stuff. But what does plastic surgery have to do with whether or not he’s a pedophile or a homosexual? Nothing. He’s got a good heart, I don’t give two sh.its about his face.

    I’m about through here, maybe a repeat performance or two, but probably not. Just keep all I’ve said in mind before you jump to conclusions about Mike.
     
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    Wanna Be Starting Something acapella:


    In The Closet acapella:
     
  17. Rodrigo90 Wink wink ;)

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    I see Murray has given his first interview.

    He's basically waiting for a good money offer before he starts spilling Michael's "pedophile secrets". I don't know. He tried defending him, in a way.

    But he did reveal something interesting, which I think supports Michael's innocence. He claims Michael slept with dolls. I suspected that for a while, but now it's been confirmed.

    This also confirms just how desperately and crushingly lonely Michael was.

    To say he slept with kids because he was guilty, couldn't be more wrong.

    Frank Dileo at times had to sleep in the same room as Michael in hotels, because he was that lonely, he couldn't sleep. ..

    And dolls were his other option if he didn't have his children around him. Very sad :(
    Murray did say, he shouldn't be judged for it, given his life.
     
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    Michael suffered constant loneliness and insomnia for most of his life; many people have mentioned it over the years. By most accounts, Joseph constantly cheated on Katherine, even beating her until she threw a vase at him. That's when his abuse was placed on the boys. Michael got the worst of it from Joe, because he was the only one who dared to fight back. He even threatened to quit music altogether if Joe continued hitting him.

    As much as I love his songs, I really wish he'd have gotten completely away from his family early on, especially Joe. The only relatives he seemed genuinely close to were Katherine and Janet, which is truly sad. I hope his children have far more healthy emotional and spiritual lives than Michael ever did.
     
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    Cinematographer named JP Lipa worked with Michael during This Is It. New footage(HD):



    I hope he shares more.
     
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    A Place With No Name and I Am A Loser have been leaked.

    Great songs :up:
     
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    Oprah interview 1993 (Outtakes 1):


    Oprah interview 1993 (Outtakes 3):
     
  23. JaD Thriller Night

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    Thanks for the heads-up! Just grabbed them now as I was hoping Place With No Name would come around eventually. :up:
     
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    This Place Hotel from Victory Tour!:



    Amazing footage! It was uploaded 15 hours ago and I have never seen that video before. I hope they release the full concert.
     
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    it would have been great for Mike to work with Public Enemy (chuck D, Flav)..
     

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