The Amazing Spider-Man Mover over Raimi! Time for Jim Cameron to take on Spidey!

[Jennifer Walters]

I honestly cannot believe you, Billy.

Everything about this screams "HOLY **** WE HAVE A 2012 DEADLINE AND DON'T HAVE TIME TO FIGHT WITH RAIMI, SO WE'LL REBOOT BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER AND WE'LL HAVE FULL CONTROL".

How can you be so blind?

Better than the 2011 release date that Raimi had for 4. Yes. 2011. They added an extra year to get the reboot out. That alone shows at least they care about the quality enough to give an extra year to work on this reboot.

 

[JP]

Better than the 2011 release date that Raimi had for 4. Yes. 2011. They added an extra year to get the reboot out. That alone shows at least they care about the quality enough to give an extra year to work on this reboot.

Well, duh. They just fired every last sole except the producers.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Well, duh. They just fired every last sole except the producers.

Every last sole who wasn't doing a thing for the films. They all were very talented don't get me wrong. But none of them felt like they really knew the Spider-Man character all that well.

 

[JP]

Yup, and now we'll get a dark and gritty Spider. Cause that's what it's all about.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Yup, and now we'll get a dark and gritty Spider. Cause that's what it's all about.

One source has said that. Entertainment Weekly and they've been known to write **** out of their ass in the past. I'll believe that when we hear Sony and the director/cast they choose saying ''We are going more dark and gritty."

 

[Timstuff]

why on earth wouldn't you GIVE him full control?

The same reason they wouldn't give it to Raimi. They think they know more about making films than the filmmakers, because they're professional ass**les. They did not let Raimi do what he wanted to, so he walked. Why would they hire a director who would demand even more creative freedom than Raimi did, when what they want is someone who will not demand any at all? This whole mess started because of creative differences between Raimi and the suits, so James "Stay out of my way" Cameron is probably the last person on earth they'd consider hiring. ESPECIALLY since they wouldn't have time for him to write his own script, which is something he'd insist on.

 

[daywalker2007]

Being optimistic is one thing. Acting like this reboot is Christ's second coming is another. People are acting like we've had to suffer through three Raimi films.

You are correct

Raimi's first 2 Spiderman films are superb.

its the 3rd which seems to have divided people. It was rushed and he was forced by others to add more things into it.

Its Sony's fault for that.

Having said that though, its maybe good to let someone else have a turn with Spiderman now.

All I know is that if Jim Cameron visuallised Spiderman on screen, it would blow everything else out of the water.

If you're just happy with the same old cgi and same old web slinging action of the first 3 movies, then by all means go with it.

But if Sony are looking for something fresh, something to give us a new take, its time to ask someone who isn't afraid to try new things.

 

[daywalker2007]

The same reason they wouldn't give it to Raimi. They think they know more about making films than the filmmakers, because they're professional ass**les. They did not let Raimi do what he wanted to, so he walked. Why would they hire a director who would demand even more creative freedom than Raimi did, when what they want is someone who will not demand any at all? This whole mess started because of creative differences between Raimi and the suits, so James "Stay out of my way" Cameron is probably the last person on earth they'd consider hiring. ESPECIALLY since they wouldn't have time for him to write his own script, which is something he'd insist on.

Well thats Sony's problem then. If they don't think that Cameron could deliver them a super box office hit with Spiderman, then they are probably out of their minds.

Given that Cameron just went all out CGI on us, wouldn't it be fun to see Spiderman with some epic action and CGI? Rather than Sony Imageworks cack CGI?

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Yes, it would blow everything else out of the water about how terrible his Spider-Man would be. I take it you didn't read his original script for Spider-Man. If a new take on it was anything like that. I'd make X-Men: The Last Stand look like the Godfather Part 2.

 

[daywalker2007]

Yes, it would blow everything else out of the water about how terrible his Spider-Man would be. I take it you didn't read his original script for Spider-Man. If a new take on it was anything like that. I'd make X-Men: The Last Stand look like the Godfather Part 2.

Well that was an old script. I doubt he would do the same now.
Given the technology at hand now, anythings possible now.

Glossing over on an old projected script from more than 20 years ago hardly qualifies as a valid reason to not hire someone.

If you want to see Spidey claim back his Superhero crown from The Dark Knight, then we need to see something completely new, something fresh,exciting.

Another movie with a standard villian, and the same ropey Sony Imageworks CGI is not going to cut it anymore.

Spidey deserves to have the best SFX, best actors and best story.
Raimi did terrific for Spidey 1 and 2. Part 3 i don't blame him, Sony cocked that one up for him.

And even though it made over 800 millions worldwide, it seems Sony don't want to let Raimi do another sequel.

But you would think, if they are starting from scratch, why not take a risk?
Its not as though Spidey is ever going to fail at the box office.

its a guarenteed smash hit, so why not take a few risks and give us something unique, something different to what we've been getting these past few years?

 

[JP]

Yes, it would blow everything else out of the water about how terrible his Spider-Man would be. I take it you didn't read his original script for Spider-Man. If a new take on it was anything like that. I'd make X-Men: The Last Stand look like the Godfather Part 2.

That was then, this is now. What remains the same is Cameron's genius.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

That was then, this is now. What remains the same is Cameron's genius.

There's no doubt about that James Cameron is a very gifted director and that James Cameron is a genius, but his first ideas were so awful, that it leaves me to wonder just how much he'd really change today.

I would give him the benefit of the doubt if it happened, but I can't see him doing it, besides didn't he just get another project to follow up Avatar with?

 

[spider-neil]

time to stop bringing up cameron's scriptment. it was written 20 frigging YEARS ago.

 

[Timstuff]

Well thats Sony's problem then. If they don't think that Cameron could deliver them a super box office hit with Spiderman, then they are probably out of their minds.

Sony didn't trust Raimi after 3 movies that made nearly a billion dollars each (over a billion, if you include DVD and merch sales). Why would they trust Cameron more, just because his movies have made slightly more? In Sony's eyes, big name directors like Raimi and Cameron are more of a nuisance than an asset, because they are more difficult to control. Studios worry about control more than they worry about box office potential, because in the studio's mind, the more control they have, the better they can ensure a product's success. James Cameron is not someone that studios control, and Sony just let their current director walk because he would not let them control him. Like I said, Cameron is probably the last director they'd consider right about now, save for the likes of Uwe Boll (in fact, that's probably the only list you'll ever find James Cameron and Uwe Boll close to each other on).

 

[Micah12345]

James Cameron wasn't interested in making a movie about the spider-man we know and love then. He was interested in making "James Cameron's Spider-Man." Why should I believe he would want to do anything different now?

He sticks with his vision. He took ten years to create avatar, and the vision for that didn't change along the way.

 

[Golgo-13]

Raimi proved that he could make close to a billion dollars off of a Spider-Man movie doing things his own way, and Sony STILL kicked him to the curb for being insubordinate. They will not go to a director who demands MORE creative control, they're going to go to one who does not demand any creative control at all (read: Brett Ratner or McG). For Sony, it's not about how much money the movie makes, it's about how the movie's made. They do not want an auteur, they want someone who will listen to their dumb ideas about how to make everyone happy and yet piss everyone off at the same time.

Raimi quit? Where did you hear that? It was just a week or two ago that Tobey was talking about the script being fine tuned, so they could make a great movie. I don't think any of the cast saw this coming.

 

[Timstuff]

James Cameron wasn't interested in making a movie about the spider-man we know and love then. He was interested in making "James Cameron's Spider-Man." Why should I believe he would want to do anything different now?

He sticks with his vision. He took ten years to create avatar, and the vision for that didn't change along the way.

Well said. Some people, unfortunately, are truth-averse.

 

[bryanss3]

Raimi proved that he could make close to a billion dollars off of a Spider-Man movie doing things his own way, and Sony STILL kicked him to the curb for being insubordinate. They will not go to a director who demands MORE creative control, they're going to go to one who does not demand any creative control at all (read: Brett Ratner or McG). For Sony, it's not about how much money the movie makes, it's about how the movie's made. They do not want an auteur, they want someone who will listen to their dumb ideas about how to make everyone happy and yet piss everyone off at the same time.

The second I saw this thread my first thought was "haha they think we're gonna get Cameron, they're gonna eat there hats in a year and pray for Raimi to return when we get Ratner" I hope it doesn't go that way but I won't be surprised. I don't see how anyone can look hopeful for the future of Super hero movies after Wolverine was such a disapointment... Then they announce a guy who writes for Gossip Girl is writing X-Men First Class.. Now Bryan Singer is directing again are we going backwards rather than forwards? Maybe this will all straighten out and become amazing but by the time it does the cash cow super hero movies studios go gaga for might be a lot less popular in the extra year or so after it takes to make the new Spidey Film.

 

[JeanVitchier]

3. Sony will not sign Cameron because he is a more powerful version of Raimi. He has independent thought, is creative and won't compromise his vision. It took them three years to get rid of Raimi, Cameron is too much for Sony to handle. THEY want control of this franchise, so expect a yes-man.

BRETT RATNER is the perfect yes-man!

 

[zeptron]

This reminds me of Peter Jackson and Chris Nolan. People wanted them to direct everything because of Lord Of The Rings and the new Batman, now because of Avatar it's Cameron.

Cameron has a busy schedule anyway. He has already mentioned in several interviews that he is planning two more sequels to Avatar. He also has mentioned two films Battle Angel and The Dive as projects he wants to get made. Not to mention the fact that he just bought the rights to Last Train To Hiroshima last month.

Like Timstuff said Sony is most likely gonna do things their way and with an ego like Cameron's he's not gonna let that happen.

 

[Timstuff]

I wouldn't be surprised if the director is McG. He's in fairly good standing with Sony due to Charlie's Angels, and he got "street cred" for doing a Terminator movie (even though it got mixed-to-poor reviews and had mediocre box office success). It could be Ratner, but McG seems like he's probably the guy Sony would go to first. He's also a yes-man, and Sony has already worked with him.

 

[<borkis>]

James Cameron will not direct the new Spider-man for a number of reasons:

1. Cameron is careful about his projects. His Spider-man would have to be well thought out.
2. Cameron will not sign on for a movie which already has a script and is ready to go.
3. Sony will not sign Cameron because he is a more powerful version of Raimi. He has independent thought, is creative and won't compromise his vision. It took them three years to get rid of Raimi, Cameron is too much for Sony to handle. THEY want control of this franchise, so expect a yes-man.
4. Cameron would be too expensive. Sony wants to do this on the cheap.

5. Avatar 2
6. Avatar 3
7. Battle Angel

Exactly when were people planning for this guy to have the time to take on yet another major franchise?

 

[Jennifer Walters]

I'll laugh my ass off if we get a director soon and he's the furtherest thing from a yes man. I will just burst my guts laughing.

 

[ultimatefan]

My feeling right now is Cameron is currently way too busy with this little franchise he just created, you know, called Avatar or something...

 

[craigdbfan]

I'll laugh my ass off if we get a director soon and he's the furtherest thing from a yes man. I will just burst my guts laughing.

Usually I tend to agree with Tim but I doubt Sony is looking for a lame duck "yes" man.

They aren't trying to destroy their most valuable asset.

I expect they'll find a director with good credentials and talent but can also agree and work with some of Sony's request without completely destroying his vision.