Movies You Wish Were Never Ever Made

Well, my actual list would be way too long, so I'll answer this one in general terms.

Films I Wish Were Never Made...

1) The entire "slasher" genre (i.e., films which commonly use more than one of the following: graphic, bloody death scenes, stories involving positive portrayals of demonic or occultic subjects, depictions of sex between unmarried people, explicit or otherwise, and overt language including abuses of God's name and profane sexual references). Examples would include the "Halloween", "Friday the 13th", "Nightmare on Elm Street", "Saw", "Scream", and "I Know What You Did Last Summer" franchises.

2) The entire porn industry...'nuff said.

3) The "sex comedy" genre (i.e., films which predominantly rely on sexual or bathroom humor, as well as extreme swearing, in order to drive the story). Examples would include the "American Pie" franchise, "Superbad", and "Knocked Up".

4) Any film which paints a portrayal of the Judeo-Christian God Almighty (or a fictionalized version of Him) as weak, crude, intolerant, hateteful, uninvolved, or otherwise negative. Such films often (but not always) present a positive or inviting view of demonic activity or the occult. Examples would include "Spawn", "Constantine", and "Ghost Rider", among many others.
you're one of those over-religious christians i guess. Wow, you're on a superheor message board and most superheroes consist of violence/action, alot of demonic symbols etc. if you hate it so much then dont affiliate yourself with it. Spawn,Constantin,eGhost rider, well thats whatthey are about, you wont see a superhero who is some holy sameritain anytime soon. Im catholic myself,but man, you need to lighten up on all this.
 
I go to church with a devout group of young Christians and they don't really care that I'm gay nor that I'm in a loving relationship with my boyfriend, so unless you brand my group as those with slightly different or interpretive beliefs from yours, they still fall under the same umbrella of thinking that God loves, Jesus is the only way to heaven and so forth.

And for the record - they don't let the movies that are morally reprehensible from a Christian standpoint infringe on their beliefs because they don't let them: they like to discuss themes and content and such, but if they are strong of faith, they would not let a film like that be the reflector of society's stance. It's misdirected energy.

Rather, they aim to make a difference and encourage the non-Christians or those not part of the Church through means such as bible study, make the Church be more 'hip' to the people (we comprise the youthful mentality!), explain away abstract reasons as to why we pray and select biblical passages we abide by and so forth. And focus on the positives as to why you're a Christian in the first place. To practice Christianity is more of an individual event, I feel, rather than or should I say exclusively a social commentary event.

We aren't the judges and cannot pass down sentences but in order to be on that stand means you have to truly understand humanity, while at the same time, be comfortable with your beliefs because knowledge of certainties is comortable.

And in terms of the film industry - acknowledgement of anything they may find morally rephrensible is noted, while they can enjoy a film purely on artistic/storytelling merits.

For example, my best Christian mate and I saw 'Hard Candy' about paedophilia, about how a little girl turns the tables on her paedophilic friend and tortures him and such. We even get to sympathise with the paedophilic because the little girl, in her hatred of paedphilia, is brutal in her means to expose him.

A film like that that deals with paedophilia would naturally make us dislike the perpretator in question simply because of social conditioning, and rightly so. But my Christian mate recognises that if violence can beget violence, then the cycle can't stop unless we go to the source and fix it, not lay it over with a bandaid.

Your suggested solutions are bandaids at best: you really have to recognise that all attacks are a cry for help, but that you have to credit humanity that it is wise enough to ponder that a film like that of borderline porn or extreme violence can exists to reinforce their contrary beliefs, not influence them.

If I told you that my Church's core basis was that we are all born sinners, that tells you about their belief systems I have presented to you.

Best post in history. Well done my friend.
 
shapeshifter said:
As does bigotry.
The difference between a true Christian and a bigot is hatred. I'm standing firm in my beliefs regarding God, unwilling to alter them for liberalistic view of "whatever, wherever, whenever, with and to whomever." I don't agree with stances like that, and when people call me a fundamentalist or conservative, it's actually encouraging. I'm proud to be a servant of Christ, and if that means I appear idiotic to some, then so be it. Christ looked foolish for me on that cross. I can do the same for him.
 
I simply want the film industry to better reflect a widely-held standard of decency and integrity, on all levels. Films such as "Scary Movie" and it's sequels/spinoffs rely on morally-reprehensible subjects to gain cheap laughs. This presents the false message that premarital sex, drugs, and homosexuality are all laughing matters...when in reality, none of them are. Stories such as "Saw" and "Scream" push a similar agenda, but throw in brutal, bloody violence for added effect. Porn objectifies both genders as nothing more than sex objects, and corrupts viewers on many levels.

Now, let me make one important point: An above poster viewed my comments about sex as equal to the "repressed, missionary-only" crowd. This couldn't be further from the truth. I believe that sex was designed by God, to be not just good, but spectacular! However, I also believe that like anything else in life, sex has its place, and that's in a loving, committed marriage for life, between one man and one woman. Society views that "model" (for lack of a better word) as outdated, archaic, and foolish...but their opinion doesn't make it any less true, virtuous, or blessed by God. Think about it: if people actually kept sex in the sanctification of marriage, there'd be many less instances of STDs, unexpected pregnancies, and abortions. True maturity is putting selfish lust aside, and loving someone enough to bind yourself to them forever. Yes, that means a loss of the "single life" and its perceived "freedoms"...but the rewards must be worth the sacrifice, or God wouldn't have placed those restrictions in the first place.

Actually, I would argue that anything under the sun can be a topic of humour. It's a standard practice of comedy to shine a light on our darkest qualities and present them in an irreverent form. Look at the how popular the concept of death is in comedy. I mean, Scary Movie is not very good. You're right that it is base, lowest-common denominator humour. That said, everything Scary Movie poses is subject for comedy. It's in the delivery, not the message. Sex is actually one of the funniest subjects out there once you examine people's reactions and relationships with it. Look at a movie like Knocked Up, "10" or 40-Year-Old Virgin which pokes fun at our misconceptions regarding sex while exposing true human truths.

Also, Scream is one of the most clever satires of the 90's. To lump it in with Saw is a sign that you either haven't seen it or just plain ol didn't get it. And again, the Saw movies aren't great. They're retreads of films like Seven and Silence of The Lambs, which ARE great movies with real characters and storytelling.

I'm just getting the sense you just can't appreciate the notion of exploitation flicks. Not every movie has noble intentions, and the world would be pretty dull if they did. Sometimes it's nice to see something like Predator or Friday the 13th between your Babel's and Schindler's Lists. Variety is the spice of life, and a "movie fan" you'd think you would be interested in the larger scope. I'd get bored hearing the same message that I agree with every time.
 
please get off this message board and go to some church forum or something. This is a comic book/comic movie forum not a 'religious talk' forum. If you are concerned with every little mention of God or the devil in a comic book movie of who's main character is demonic being, dont read/watch it. No one is making you watch it.
 
A Nightmare on Elm St. (original) was pure genius. I shall not hear a word against it. Same goes for Escape From New York.

Movies that never should have been made? Simple, The Star Wars prequels, no matter how much I liked RotS.
 
please get off this message board and go to some church forum or something. This is a comic book/comic movie forum not a 'religious talk' forum. If you are concerned with every little mention of God or the devil in a comic book movie of who's main character is demonic being, dont read/watch it. No one is making you watch it.
Now now. He has the same right to post here as the rest of us.
 
Im not saying he doesnt,but he is saying how all this stuff is 'wrong', well then, why affiliate yourself with it if you dont like it in the first place. you know what i mean?
 
A Nightmare on Elm St. (original) was pure genius. I shall not hear a word against it. Same goes for Escape From New York.
How do you feel about the second one? I love the first two. That's right, the first two. Most folks hate the second one, but I liked it a lot. The first two Freddy was dark and scary and not the parody of himself that he would become in later films. I also dug Wes Craven's New Nightmare.
 
The second was alright, not the best, but not the worst, but the first was the best
 
The difference between a true Christian and a bigot is hatred. I'm standing firm in my beliefs regarding God, unwilling to alter them for liberalistic view of "whatever, wherever, whenever, with and to whomever." I don't agree with stances like that, and when people call me a fundamentalist or conservative, it's actually encouraging. I'm proud to be a servant of Christ, and if that means I appear idiotic to some, then so be it. Christ looked foolish for me on that cross. I can do the same for him.

Oh geez. Dying on a cross for man's sins, and arguing the merits of Saw and Scary Movie anonymously on a message board are a wee bit different.
 
Im not saying he doesnt,but he is saying how all this stuff is 'wrong', well then, why affiliate yourself with it if you dont like it in the first place. you know what i mean?
I don't know. I guess it could be that Chrisitian mentality that he has to spread the message. He's an all right guy and never flames or gets into name calling. I hardly ever see eye to eye with him but he stands up for what he believes in and doesn't get into the petty games that can ruin a message board.
 
The difference between a true Christian and a bigot is hatred. I'm standing firm in my beliefs regarding God, unwilling to alter them for liberalistic view of "whatever, wherever, whenever, with and to whomever." I don't agree with stances like that, and when people call me a fundamentalist or conservative, it's actually encouraging. I'm proud to be a servant of Christ, and if that means I appear idiotic to some, then so be it. Christ looked foolish for me on that cross. I can do the same for him.

I'm just saying that you are being closed minded. I refuse to believe that the Bible does not inspire people to be accepting of something harmless. Homosexuality is not a threat to the church, to god, or to the sanctity of marriage. It just is.
People who refuse to change, or hear new ideas were the same people who condemned Christ. He came in with some really radical ideas, and people had to make a choice. Change their hard set minds, or not to. Do you think the people who changed their minds did so to the benefit of many more?
All I am asking is for you to open your field of vision. I'm not Christian, but I can see the value of the moral system some people get out of it.
alright I'm done.

I wish the last 3 planet of the apes movies had never been made.
 
How do you feel about the second one? I love the first two. That's right, the first two. Most folks hate the second one, but I liked it a lot. The first two Freddy was dark and scary and not the parody of himself that he would become in later films. I also dug Wes Craven's New Nightmare.

I have a love/hate relationship with Freddy's Revenge. I liked Krueger's attitude in that one, yet hated the direction they went in. Although the pool party slaughter was a great scene.
 
I go to church with a devout group of young Christians and they don't really care that I'm gay nor that I'm in a loving relationship with my boyfriend, so unless you brand my group as those with slightly different or interpretive beliefs from yours, they still fall under the same umbrella of thinking that God loves, Jesus is the only way to heaven and so forth.

And for the record - they don't let the movies that are morally reprehensible from a Christian standpoint infringe on their beliefs because they don't let them: they like to discuss themes and content and such, but if they are strong of faith, they would not let a film like that be the reflector of society's stance. It's misdirected energy.

Rather, they aim to make a difference and encourage the non-Christians or those not part of the Church through means such as bible study, make the Church be more 'hip' to the people (we comprise the youthful mentality!), explain away abstract reasons as to why we pray and select biblical passages we abide by and so forth. And focus on the positives as to why you're a Christian in the first place. To practice Christianity is more of an individual event, I feel, rather than or should I say exclusively a social commentary event.

We aren't the judges and cannot pass down sentences but in order to be on that stand means you have to truly understand humanity, while at the same time, be comfortable with your beliefs because knowledge of certainties is comortable.

And in terms of the film industry - acknowledgement of anything they may find morally rephrensible is noted, while they can enjoy a film purely on artistic/storytelling merits.

For example, my best Christian mate and I saw 'Hard Candy' about paedophilia, about how a little girl turns the tables on her paedophilic friend and tortures him and such. We even get to sympathise with the paedophilic because the little girl, in her hatred of paedphilia, is brutal in her means to expose him.

A film like that that deals with paedophilia would naturally make us dislike the perpretator in question simply because of social conditioning, and rightly so. But my Christian mate recognises that if violence can beget violence, then the cycle can't stop unless we go to the source and fix it, not lay it over with a bandaid.

Your suggested solutions are bandaids at best: you really have to recognise that all attacks are a cry for help, but that you have to credit humanity that it is wise enough to ponder that a film like that of borderline porn or extreme violence can exists to reinforce their contrary beliefs, not influence them.

If I told you that my Church's core basis was that we are all born sinners, that tells you about their belief systems I have presented to you.

Congrats, you just got a thousands points in my cool book. :up: :yay:
 
I have a love/hate relationship with Freddy's Revenge. I liked Krueger's attitude in that one, yet hated the direction they went in. Although the pool party slaughter was a great scene.
lol "Help yourself f**ker!" Cracks me up every time.
 
I don't know. I guess it could be that Chrisitian mentality that he has to spread the message. He's an all right guy and never flames or gets into name calling. I hardly ever see eye to eye with him but he stands up for what he believes in and doesn't get into the petty games that can ruin a message board.
True, very true, but i think this conversation has gone too far
 
Since whenm have I affiliated myself with any of it? the only reason I even know a thing about some of these films is because the trailers and reviews are all over the Internet. I'm not demanding for anyone to agree with me, but when a user throws a personal attack my way, I defend myself. Or, in the case of someone being offended, I'm sorry they feel that way, but folks being ticked off isn't my problem. I speak the whole, unadulterated truth as best I know, and if it makes you mad, then don't respond to my posts.
 
Movies that never should have been made? Simple, The Star Wars prequels, no matter how much I liked RotS.

at least it opened up the Expanded Universe more. The animated Clone Wars was better than the movies, and video games like Battlefront wouldn't have been as cool with just the original stuff.
 
lol "Help yourself f**ker!" Cracks me up every time.

Greatest line from the entire movie, Englund's delivery was superb.

Another thing I liked about 2 was the posters.

ANOES2FreddysRevenge.jpg


Love it.
 
Since whenm have I affiliated myself with any of it? the only reason I even know a thing about some of these films is because the trailers and reviews are all over the Internet. I'm not demanding for anyone to agree with me, but when a user throws a personal attack my way, I defend myself. Or, in the case of someone being offended, I'm sorry they feel that way, but folks being ticked off isn't my problem. I speak the whole, unadulterated truth as best I know, and if it makes you mad, then don't respond to my posts.

So, you're basing your arguments on trailers and reviews? Sweet lord.
 

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