MPAA Rating (Note: Officially PG-13)

[Lord Blackbolt]

Cause with the success of Constantine, which was originally suppose to be PG13...then later turned to R....it proved that a comic movie based on "hellish" tones and r-rated can be a success.

You think Constantine will effect the marketing of Ghostrider now.

 

[Morg]

GR should be R rated too but doubt it

 

[BIGGUN]

No reason to have it rated R....making Ghost Rider is still very possible as a PG13 film. Hellboy proved this....
Even the comics were aimed at a younger audience...people seem to forget this. it was no Hellbazer thats for sure.

Although i believe GR could still be successful as a R rated film it would be even more successful as a PG13.

The important thing is that they keep it serious and not campy or aimed for kids. from what ive been hearing (especially from MSJ) that certainly is the case.
they can keep it violent while still keeping the gore and language to a minimum. Lord of the Rings is a great example of this. lots of orcs were cut to ribbons which were shown briefly in quick shots on screen. i dont need to see someone eviscerated in slo-mo to know that hes dieing a horrible death.

 

[TheVileOne]

Eh, Constantine was a pretty tame R-rated movie I think. All I'm saying, most recently I've seen PG-13 flicks with more provocative content. I just hope the PG-13 rating doesn't hinder anything for Ghost Rider like it did for Daredevil.

 

[BIGGUN]

Eh, Constantine was a pretty tame R-rated movie I think. All I'm saying, most recently I've seen PG-13 flicks with more provocative content. I just hope the PG-13 rating doesn't hinder anything for Ghost Rider like it did for Daredevil.

I agree..from the reviews that i read they said Constantine had some really disturbing imagery in the film. the film had some creepy moments....but nowhere near the level reviewers said it was.
i actually read one article by a critic who said that todays PG13s get away w/ alot more than some R rated films a few years ago. pretty interesting...

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

Well another point is...Nick Cage has had many r-rated movies that have made over 100 million. I think he has a much wider adult viewership. Plus...as much as I loved Hellboy...it didn't do super well. IMO...Nick Cage alone will probably make this movie 70 million alone.

 

[FlameHead]

Just to warn before it happens... gonna try and get this one merged with the other couple of rating threads. Keep an eye out for that in the coming days.

I agree..from the reviews that i read they said Constantine had some really disturbing imagery in the film. the film had some creepy moments....but nowhere near the level reviewers said it was.
i actually read one article by a critic who said that todays PG13s get away w/ alot more than some R rated films a few years ago. pretty interesting...

I'm not sure why Contantine had an R rating. I've seen worse on screen. YOu're right about the imagery, it wasn't that disturbing at all. Maybe it was the topics discussed. They probably wanted to keep the youngin's senstive beliefs in tact.

 

[BIGGUN]

Well another point is...Nick Cage has had many r-rated movies that have made over 100 million. I think he has a much wider adult viewership. Plus...as much as I loved Hellboy...it didn't do super well. IMO...Nick Cage alone will probably make this movie 70 million alone.

Well my point wasnt how Hellboy did at the box office it was the subject matter that was covered in the film. for a PG13 they did a mighty good job at staying fairly close to the comic but not making it into a kid-fest. it had lots of monster gore and dealings w/ supernatural menaces. had quite a bit of human deaths too....they were offscreen of course but they were there.
HB had a good opening weekend but i think it didnt do too well afterwards. there are a few reasons for this of course but i doubt it had to do w/ it being PG13. IMO a PG13 rating actually helped Hellboy ....it allowed more folks to go see it. Also i think it was rather interesting GR got the greenlight the same weekend that Hellboy opened. may have had something to do w/ it too.
But i do agree about Cage...he will certainly help getting butts in seats. one of my arguements for getting Cage was for that very reason. Also when you get a top name like Cage involved it tends to get other top names involved as well not to mention help increasing a film's budget.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

I wouldn't mind a PG-13 theatrical release and then an R director's cut on dvd.

 

[BIGGUN]

I wouldn't mind a PG-13 theatrical release and then an R director's cut on dvd.

I think all of us wouldnt mind that at all

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

I think all of us wouldnt mind that at all

Well some people are pissed that the movie has a strong chance for a theatrical PG-13 release.

 

[Night]

Like theVileOne said I just hope they don't edit it because they want a PG-13 movie. If you are going to cut 30 min out of the movie make it R!

 

[BIGGUN]

Well some people are pissed that the movie has a strong chance for a theatrical PG-13 release.

heh...i was referring to the directors cut...but yeah there are a few who think R is the only way to go.

 

[BIGGUN]

Like theVileOne said I just hope they don't edit it because they want a PG-13 movie. If you are going to cut 30 min out of the movie make it R!

if they shoot the film w/ a PG13 in mind they can deliberately get away w/ some stuff. they can find ways to get around the censors while still maintaining a PG13.
if they shoot it w/ a R rating in mind and then cut it to fit a PG13 then yeah the film will more than likely suffer. Daredevil was a good example of this....

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

if they shoot the film w/ a PG13 in mind they can deliberately get away w/ some stuff. they can find ways to get around the censors while still maintaining a PG13.
if they shoot it w/ a R rating in mind and then cut it to fit a PG13 then yeah the film will more than likely suffer. Daredevil was a good example of this....

I hope MSJ does it right this time around. I know Foster was the main reason for the editing of Daredevil but MSJ needs to step up this time. I know he browses around on here on occasion so I think he understands and recognizes what the fans want and need to see.

 

[BIGGUN]

I hope MSJ does it right this time around. I know Foster was the main reason for the editing of Daredevil but MSJ needs to step up this time. I know he browses around on here on occasion so I think he understands and recognizes what the fans want and need to see.

Wasnt some of the decisions made by Foster in regards to the editing was due to the pressure from the suits at 20th Cent. Fox? that was the impression that i got. Sony should be better i hope...they seem to give a bit more freedom to the makers of their films.
But yeah i think both MSJ and Foster know they have to deliver on this one...especially since they have Cage w/ a decent cast and crew lined up.

 

[FlameHead]

When it comes down to so many people to make a film, it's hard to blame anything on just one person.

I have all the faith in the world in MSJ, no matter who it is that's baking him. I think he'll have enough weight, along with Nic to get anything done. Fans will make this movie happen and that's the important thing.

 

[Green Arrow]

Just out curiosity because if anyone remembers the whole DD debatacle, the Director's Cut was far superior to the Theatrical and I hate to see that happen again

 

[BIGGUN]

there is already a thread on this....
go here: http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163728

 

[Lord Blackbolt]

How much is the budget for the money BTW....does anyone know if they have given the movie more money

 

[BIGGUN]

How much is the budget for the money BTW....does anyone know if they have given the movie more money

i dont think its a matter of giving the film more money....i think they have already established a set budget awhile back. right now several sources are saying its at least 100,000,000.00 US dollars.
im sure its going to end up being a little more once marketing comes into the picture.

 

[FlameHead]

100 mill is nice. I like 100 mill. I'm sure you're right about it being upped for marketing reasons BG... especially when the studio execs see how freakin' cool this character is.

For more talk on the budget, check out the following thread...
http://www.superherohype.com/forums/showthread.php?t=152592

 

[EternalMaster]

I'm sure that ghost Rider can get away with a PG-13. The comics themselves were never really graphic. The worst part is when his face melts off, really. The rest of the time, Ghost Rider pretty much does PG-13 stuff. He doesn't dismember people. He just breaks their bones. He doesn't kill needlessly. He only kills the bad guys.

And sure, he's a demon from hell, but he fights on the good side.

 

[FlameHead]

If the flesh melting is something that will make this movie an R, then it needs to be an R. I know they're not going to make it an R but they better have that flesh melting transformation in there. Graphic or not, it has to be there.

 

[BIGGUN]

Avi Arad say PG-13 all the way...

So, looks like they're still going with PG-13.. over R.

im not worried...they will figure how to get around that PG13. as long as they dont shoot it as a R and then cut it down to a PG13. would be cool though if they shoot some xtra gory or violent scenes for a director's cut dvd