New Arthur Petrelli Theory...

[Matt]

Maybe he is Linderman. Not saying that Arthur is literally Linderman but perhaps he has some kind of Mastermind/Candice ability to create illusions. That is how Nathan is seeing Linderman and that is how he staged his own death. Perhaps he healed Nathan with Claire or Adam's blood.

 

[Maximus One]

Interesting theory

 

[fu manchu]

why would he pretend to be linderman, of all people?

 

[The Apocalypse]

Umm everything is connected...that's why.

 

[SuBe]

why would he pretend to be linderman, of all people?

So he can manipulate Nathan, since Linderman almost did it once. It would be easier than, "Hey, Nate it's your pa! I'm back from the Dead, and I need you to do evil stuff!"

 

[Steyin]

I think Arthur is actually the mastermind controlling everything, and the mob hit on him was a setup of his own doing to throw those not involved with him off (Angela, etc.). I think he is a power hungry guy, with an ability like Sylar or Peter, bent on being the ultimate person.

 

[Neptune]

Mob hit? He comitted suicide didn't he?

 

[Gilpesh]

Perhaps he healed Nathan with Claire or Adam's blood.

The blood doesn't do that anymore.... remember Daphne and Sylar's son, Noah?

 

[PLAS]

The blood doesn't do that anymore.... remember Daphne and Sylar's son, Noah?

where did they say Noah was Daphne's son? Daphne has a son with Matt, the fat, telepath

 

[Gilpesh]

where did they say Noah was Daphne's son? Daphne has a son with Matt, the fat, telepath

Fine, I'll try to be more obvious in what I was saying.

Daphne *pause* and Sylar's son, Noah... not that Daphne is the mother, just I am talking about both of them at the same time which means I need to use the conjunction AND and also instead of just saying Noah and having people ask 'HRG?', I put up the description first that they know "Sylar's son" and then the name to clarify.

But back to the point, Daphne and Noah died. If there was healing blood on the show, and anyone involved with either of these characters knew about it; they would easily go, "Healing blood!" and then go use some on either to keep them alive.

 

[Matt]

Fine, I'll try to be more obvious in what I was saying.

Daphne *pause* and Sylar's son, Noah... not that Daphne is the mother, just I am talking about both of them at the same time which means I need to use the conjunction AND and also instead of just saying Noah and having people ask 'HRG?', I put up the description first that they know "Sylar's son" and then the name to clarify.

But back to the point, Daphne and Noah died. If there was healing blood on the show, and anyone involved with either of these characters knew about it; they would easily go, "Healing blood!" and then go use some on either to keep them alive.

And thats why they should've never touched the healing blood story line with a ten foot pole. It either makes every character immune from death (taking any sense of suspense out of the show) or it creates plot holes. And for what? So the writers could do a quick little shock of Noah dying (that was reversed two seconds later)? I mean, what effect did the healing blood really have on the show?

 

[Gilpesh]

Well Matt, I groaned at first... but when Heroes wanted me to feel bad about Little Noah dying and Daphne dying (even though she's company)... I quit the show.

 

[Neptune]

And thats why they should've never touched the healing blood story line with a ten foot pole. It either makes every character immune from death (taking any sense of suspense out of the show) or it creates plot holes. And for what? So the writers could do a quick little shock of Noah dying (that was reversed two seconds later)? I mean, what effect did the healing blood really have on the show?

HRG was supposed te be revived a couple of episodes later. But the writers strike... well you know the rest. The healing blood is a complicated issue indeed. It's Claire's blood, why would she not heal Daphne?

 

[Gilpesh]

It's Claire's blood, why would she not heal Daphne?

Actually, I could explain that.. but the hole is actually with the Company and not Claire.

See, Claire could just hate Daphne and not heal her, end of story.

But seeing as the Company knows of Claire's blood... and Claire works for them... and is obviously dedicated to the company, how come the Company does not have a program where they have her blood on ice so that when their agents need to be healed, they can just give them some.... especially in a future where everyone has powers.

 

[SuBe]

Actually, I could explain that.. but the hole is actually with the Company and not Claire.

See, Claire could just hate Daphne and not heal her, end of story.

But seeing as the Company knows of Claire's blood... and Claire works for them... and is obviously dedicated to the company, how come the Company does not have a program where they have her blood on ice so that when their agents need to be healed, they can just give them some.... especially in a future where everyone has powers.

I assumed Daphne ran straight home. It probably took Claire a few minutes to put herself back together, by then, Daphne was in New York.

 

[PLAS]

I assumed Daphne ran straight home. It probably took Claire a few minutes to put herself back together, by then, Daphne was in New York.

it's not like the last thing you'd want to do before dying is seeing your loved ones, damn lazy writers

 

[fu manchu]

Umm everything is connected...that's why.

that obvious. but it does not answer my question.

So he can manipulate Nathan, since Linderman almost did it once. It would be easier than, "Hey, Nate it's your pa! I'm back from the Dead, and I need you to do evil stuff!"

There seems to be trust issues between Linderman and Nathan. So, idk, if choosing to be linderman is such a wise idea. I think it would be smart to be a person who Nathan would trust initially, either himself or someone else than linderman.

btw, I don't believe Linderman has told Nathan to doing any evil stuff in Season 3 unless being a senator is a bad idea.

 

[SuBe]

that obvious. but it does not answer my question.

There seems to be trust issues between Linderman and Nathan. So, idk, if choosing to be linderman is such a wise idea. I think it would be smart to be a person who Nathan would trust initially, either himself or someone else than linderman.

btw, I don't believe Linderman has told Nathan to doing any evil stuff in Season 3 unless being a senator is a bad idea.

He hasn't yet. But, we know that it was a slow start in Season one. He could be trying to use the image of Linderman to re-gain some trust, because Nathan did trust him at one time.

 

[fu manchu]

why be linderman and work hard to re-gain trust? it would be easier to be himself or someone else who Nathan trusts and respect initially.

 

[Gilpesh]

I assumed Daphne ran straight home. It probably took Claire a few minutes to put herself back together, by then, Daphne was in New York.

Um... what I was talking about is... if Claire's blood is so powerful, and the Company knows that and the future is more dangerous because everyone has powers... don't you think the Company would have a program where the healing blood was kept for easy access when an agent gets hurt?

I mean if it is half the super secret intelligence organization that the writers made it out to be.

it's not like the last thing you'd want to do before dying is seeing your loved ones, damn lazy writers

Wow... a gross oversimplification to make my rational argument seem like crap.... that fails. But nice try.

 

[Matt]

why be linderman and work hard to re-gain trust? it would be easier to be himself or someone else who Nathan trusts and respect initially.

Based on his dialogue from season 1, Nathan never really trusted his father. Furthermore, it would be kinda hard to just pop up...FROM THE DEAD and say "Hey son, let me control your life!"

All the other people Nathan trust seem to be alive, which could make it difficult to impersonate them.

 

[SuBe]

Um... what I was talking about is... if Claire's blood is so powerful, and the Company knows that and the future is more dangerous because everyone has powers... don't you think the Company would have a program where the healing blood was kept for easy access when an agent gets hurt?

I mean if it is half the super secret intelligence organization that the writers made it out to be.

I agree that the Company should be aware of the Healing Blood, but that doesn't mean that it is common knowledge with it's agents.

Based on his dialogue from season 1, Nathan never really trusted his father. Furthermore, it would be kinda hard to just pop up...FROM THE DEAD and say "Hey son, let me control your life!"

All the other people Nathan trust seem to be alive, which could make it difficult to impersonate them.

I agree.

 

[SuperT]

It's pretty simple why Linderman is being used as front to manipulate Nathan, someone's already mentioned earlier. Linderman and Nathan always had a strong connection, not to mention Linderman is a very persuasive person himself.

It wouldn't make sense for Arthur to just pop up and say "Hey Nathan you need to do this and this and this" and think Nathan will do it without hesitation.

 

[Gilpesh]

I agree that the Company should be aware of the Healing Blood, but that doesn't mean that it is common knowledge with it's agents.

I just extended it the way I thought four years and the world gaining powers all over the place would affect the Company. Like if good agents are hard to come by, especially with everyone having powers... they would have some sort of program to keep those good agents alive.

 

[SuperT]

I think some of you are confused about which company is in charge of Claire/Knox/Daphne & Co.

There's the "The Company" the one that's been around since season one that is currently being run by Angela. They're the ones that have access or even know about the properties of Claire's regenerative blood right now.

Then theirs this second company, Pinehearst Research, that Knox, Claire and Daphne were working for in the future. They all had Pinehearst lapel pins on. They could be working under completely different codes/rules then the other company, and it looks like they are seeing as they are sending out massive groups of specials on assignments rather then sending them out using the "one of us, one of them" code.