No genuinely good fight scenes in any of the four films

[spdrknight]

I personally would like to see Bats fight somebody who's a peer in the fighting ability category. Watching Bats clobber thugs gets boring after a while. An artist like Bats is truly wasted like that.

You'll get your chance to see it, I am sure we'll see some good fights with Bats going up against Ra's in Begins.

 

[gregtestagent]

I like the quick-hit fights. Batman back-fists a thug in the chemical plant, kicks the thug with the swords in the face, and does a "talk to the hand" with the guy who firsts attacks him in the cathedral.

 

[gregtestagent]

That was lame. How can a fat, wheezy thug beat seven shades out of one of the world's greatest martial artists, equipped with combat armour and a cache of high tech weaponry?

although Bats seemed battle-ready he did just barely survive that plane crash and he had to climb all those stairs. I'd be exhausted too.

 

[AnavelGato86]

I dont think he was really fat. He was bulky however, and then wearing an even bulkier jacket. So that would make him look even bigger than he is. And to actually answer the question.

Brute ****ing Force. No matter how good you are, your gonna find it a hard time to land a painful blow on a 280 pound guy when he's expecting it.

 

[spiderpapo]

That was lame. How can a fat, wheezy thug beat seven shades out of one of the world's greatest martial artists, equipped with combat armour and a cache of high tech weaponry?

His plane had just crushed, remember he knew he didn´t have a chance to beat the thug, so that´s why he had to beat him the eay he did.
Bob Kane wanted a hero who could get hurt.
I loved the fights between Batman and Catwoman, and the dialogue:
Batman.- Somebody said fish, i haven´t been fed all day.
Catwoman.- Eat floor, high fiber!
Catwoman.- Hey stud, I thought we had something together.
Batman.- We do!

 

[The Guard]

The whole "How can Batman get his butt kicked by a thug in the cathedral" thing...

He did crash The Batwing. He did look burnt, he was bleeding, and he was clearly injured. Odds are he had some cracked ribs (I think the novel says this), and he was limping pretty good. He climbed up all those stairs, and that cathedral thug had a good 100 pounds of muscle on him. And he still put up a good fight. He took blow after blow after blow and didn't go down. He was quick, managing to duck and dogde quite a bit and land some blows of his own. His drive was apparent in that scene. That's one reason I like it so much.

 

[spiderpapo]

The whole "How can Batman get his butt kicked by a thug in the cathedral" thing...

He did crash The Batwing. He did look burnt, he was bleeding, and he was clearly injured. Odds are he had some cracked ribs (I think the novel says this), and he was limping pretty good. He climbed up all those stairs, and that cathedral thug had a good 100 pounds of muscle on him. And he still put up a good fight. He took blow after blow after blow and didn't go down. He was quick, managing to duck and dogde quite a bit and land some blows of his own. His drive was apparent in that scene. That's one reason I like it so much.

that´s why I like it too

 

[spdrknight]

Batman is hardcore... the guy could have a broken leg and he would still get in there and fight. That is just his character, he is determined.

 

[Catman]

The past four films have many memorable fights scenes especially the first one. The problem is that the fights aren't exactly that well choreographed. The fight scenes were very well stages and had a good idea behind them, but the choreographing could have been better in a couple of scenes.

It's like the car chase scene. It was good, but could have been better. However, it was still memorable.

 

[The Guard]

All four car chase scenes have something to offer that hadn't been seen before or since. BEGINS will expand on that, which is cool.

 

[Sabotage8475]

What some fail to realize is that in Burton's films they weren't action sequence, just for the sake of being action sequences.. but the means for Burton to slowly drive home the idea to the audience Batman's rather ambigious morality, and his unstable nature (you can certainly see this in they way they were filmed) Perhaps the main agenda that runs through both films. Wether or not you pain attention to this or care will certainly effect the way you view the films. Perhaps a psyhological study and exploration (quesitioning - the main thing Burton does towards Batman's actions) of the character was too much for the fans, as some wanted something more fun, more basic, and adventure-esque in terms of story. This I can understand. God knows I wanted the same thing a few years back when these films didn't mesh with what I wanted from a Batman film. Today, it's a different story. Instead of focusing with what I wanted to see, I started focusing on what Burton was trying to do and his aim with the character and the films. It's very easy to get blinded by such a thing. All you have to do is be a little more open-minded. It works.

 

[hey yo its sean]

No memorable fight scenes? This is another one of those things I shake my head at when people mention them.

BATMAN

-Batman fights Joker's thugs and takes out abotu four of them in thirty seconds or so. Then, Batman fights the sword-wilelding thug with his gauntlets and bootplates. He then kicks the guy to end the fight.

-Batman battles The Joker's thug in the cathedral, in a fight where Batman ends up using the bell to his advantage, leaping around, being thrown, rolling around, and getting the crap kicked out of him but still coming out on top.

-Batman kicks The Joker's ass, with a memorable speech to boot.

BATMAN RETURNS

-Batman battles no less than three or four thugs, taking them out in a display of martial arts prowess. Then he uses his batarang in what is certainly a memorable moment.

-Batman VS Catwoman, while short and sweet, was pretty interesting, and displayed some skill on both their parts.

BATMAN FOREVER

-Batman bursts out of an elevator when he should be dead, takes on a bunch of thugs who obviously have some skill, using various gadgets and martial arts, and a large degree of resourcefulness.

-Have some of you already forgotten the scene where he crashes through a damn skylight, lands in a fountain, and proceeds to kick ass at the Ritz Gotham?

BATMAN & ROBIN

-Batman and Robin battle on the ice. On skates. While it's not particularly "good", don't tell me it's not memorable.

-Batman VS Freeze. A fight that involves Batman swinging around on his wire, swinging into Freeze, that kind of thing, and a good old-fashioned fistfight with a powersuit involved in the equation.

Batman is not The Matrix or Spider-Man, or even Blade. You won't see three minute fight scenes that have been set up to be such. Why? Because that's not realistic at all, and it's certainly not realistic in a being with no superpowers. And it's never been part of the comics, unless Batman is fighting someone with superb skill, like Shiva or Ra's Al Ghul.

In the Batman films, you see him fight how real people fight. That's how it works, people. You dodge, duck, and throw punches, kicks, and occassionally use the momentum of your opponent against them. This is how Batman has always fought in the comics when he's not facing down against someone with serious martial arts skills (And when he did so in previous films, he responded in kind) There are no exaggerated moves in the real world, there's no slow-motion chain kicks. Just people doing what they have to do to win a fight. You'll see much the same in BATMAN BEGINS.

You may have remembered them, but it doesn't change the fact that they suck.

And that realistic fighting excuse is a cop-out. I've seen movies with fighting much more realistic than that, but 100 times more entertaining.

 

[Batjosh]

True, I never found any of the fight scenes amazing, but I do like how Batman only has to make simple movements with precise timing in order to do a one-hit knock-out in Burton's Batman films when it comes to Batman fighting random thugs.

Even though its not exciting, things like the classic "Batman Backfist" when someone's trying to sneak up on him just screams "pWnd!" and that was good enough for me at the time.

 

[gregtestagent]

The past four films have many memorable fights scenes especially the first one. The problem is that the fights aren't exactly that well choreographed. The fight scenes were very well stages and had a good idea behind them, but the choreographing could have been better in a couple of scenes.

It's like the car chase scene. It was good, but could have been better. However, it was still memorable.

oh..... shut up

 

[gregtestagent]

and what about the TAS? which episode do you think truly showed his combat abilities?. I don't care if were only supposed to talk about the movies!

 

[The Sage]

Best fighting scenes were in Batman Forever. I didn't like the fight in the cathedral with the thug in BATMAN, it wasn't good. Fight in Batman Returns with Catwoman was okay.

 

[Proximo]

Best fighting scenes were in Batman Forever. I didn't like the fight in the cathedral with the thug in BATMAN, it wasn't good. Fight in Batman Returns with Catwoman was okay.

I agree Batman Forever got the best fight scene's BUT... Batman dont jump down throu a skyline and start to fight, and then the crowd start to cheer at him like som freaking cheerleaders... i mean the crowd... instead of running away they stay and watch him fight.. same at the opening scene in Batman Forever when he swing out from the bridge and stop bye gordon and chase... Batman dosent do that... when hundreds of people are watching him...
Whole that movie is so wrong... but the best fighting scenes it have yes..

The fight in cathedral is good also because it really shows that Batman can get hurt.

The fight between Batman and Catwomen in returns was most silly... didnt like that as much as the fights in '89 and Forever.

 

[Mylord]

Forever fights were dynamic but short and silly. I was also really dissapointed that there weren't any fights witch the villians ! That really sucked.
In B89 was one turly great 1 on 1 scene.
BR had only one great fight - Batman vs The Circus. Brutal, quick fight. I liked it. That was the best of all I think.

 

[brainchild81]

and what about the TAS? which episode do you think truly showed his combat abilities?. I don't care if were only supposed to talk about the movies!

You see the one's where he fought the ninja he knew from his days back in Japan? Those were damn good!

 

[brainchild81]

You'll get your chance to see it, I am sure we'll see some good fights with Bats going up against Ra's in Begins.

I think and hope you're right.

I like the quick-hit fights. Batman back-fists a thug in the chemical plant, kicks the thug with the swords in the face, and does a "talk to the hand" with the guy who firsts attacks him in the cathedral.

I respect your right to opinion, but those sucked. They seem cool when you're a kid, but when you grow up and see them again, they're as boring as watching grass grow. I think & hope WB realizes those quick-hit fights get old real quick.

 

[spdrknight]

I agree Batman Forever got the best fight scene's BUT... Batman dont jump down throu a skyline and start to fight, and then the crowd start to cheer at him like som freaking cheerleaders... i mean the crowd... instead of running away they stay and watch him fight.. same at the opening scene in Batman Forever when he swing out from the bridge and stop bye gordon and chase... Batman dosent do that... when hundreds of people are watching him...
Whole that movie is so wrong... but the best fighting scenes it have yes..

The fight in cathedral is good also because it really shows that Batman can get hurt.

The fight between Batman and Catwomen in returns was most silly... didnt like that as much as the fights in '89 and Forever.

That's the problem that I have in Forever, the fact that Batman is such a public character. He doesn't swope down and start chatting with Gordon in public, he stays in the shadows and observes things. And must bystandards would run out and get the heck away from the action and Batman would fight the thugs. It just seemed silly.

 

[uptonogood]

my favorite comic movie fight scene -- the hulk, when he's fighting the tanks and he's walking toward one tank with the barrel of another in his hands. short but hilarious.

 

[The Sage]

What does that have to do with Batman?

 

[Pookie Begins]

That's the problem that I have in Forever, the fact that Batman is such a public character. He doesn't swope down and start chatting with Gordon in public, he stays in the shadows and observes things. And must bystandards would run out and get the heck away from the action and Batman would fight the thugs. It just seemed silly.

Exactly, he is an urban legend for a reason.

 

[The Guard]

He's not an urban legend in BATMAN FOREVER though. He's a public figure. As he was in BATMAN RETURNS, and at the end of BATMAN. So it fits in well enough. Batman wasn't always a creature of the shadows. He used to appear in public quite a bit in the 70's and 80's. Still does, really. People just conveniently forget about him.