No More Reality In Comic Movies.

[Spider-Bat]

While an interesting experiment, it's probably not a good ideato shoe horn too much reality into the Fantasy realm of the superhero.

Oncea depictionveers toward realism, each new detail releases a torrent of questions that exposes the absurdity at the heart of the genre.

The more realistic Superheroes become, the less believable they are.

It's a delicate balance.But this much I do know: Superheroes are real when they're drawn in ink.

-David Mazzuchelli


This is so true. Why would you want to take something meant to be other worldly and make it realistic, it takes away from the fun of it all, everything doesn't need to be explained, and the explanation that is given in thecomic book is all that is needed. The comic films that over do it on the explanations and over do the reality are not that successful, and ruin the material.

Whatever they come up with in the comics is always more entertaining and better than what they come up with in the comic movies.

I don't want some director's take on my favorite heroes, I just want to see that comic book come to life. That's what I've waited all these years to see, so when I hear they're making a movie of one of my faves I think oh great I get to see that Superhero come to life because I like how he/she is in the book, the comic I know, but I don't want to hear, oh we're making it different just 'cause we don't have the imagination to make it the way it is.

Otherwise, why make Starwars, The Lord of the Rings, Spider-man and so on.

The thinking of making these realistic is down right dumb. Would you make a comedy and then say well, we won't make it funny 'cause people won't want that from a comedy? No, that makes no sense. And that is how it should be with comics, don't say, that Superhero shouldn't have a costume 'cause people won't get it, that makes no sense, fan or not, that person will see that the movie is about a Super Hero and expect him to wear a costume, 'cause that's what superheroes wear. Duh!

The X-men were ruined by a director with no imagination, Superman Returns had the mythos of Superman screwed with too much with the kid, and how could Superman lift a whole island of Kryptonite?

Why wouldn't the X-men wear their costumes? Forget leather. That wa done just 'cause the matrix was popular at the time Singer admitted it.

Why couldn't Ra's al ghul have his lazarus pits? Sure would've been more interesting. That's what I expected at first, then I heard about Nolan's b.s. about realism, here we go again. UGH!!! Why did the scarecrow keep taking his mask off? Because Nolan didn't want him to wear it in the first place and Goyer had to talk him into it. why have Batman dress as a Bat then? Why do it at all?

Crap or get off the pot. Don't act like you're too good to make a comic book film, if you're embarrassed by it, then don't do it.

 

[3dman27]

i agree with these sentiments

 

[fabman]

@ Spider-Bat: For your information. Rumors about Chris Nolan not wanting the Scarecrow to wear a mask are pure BS. He just wanted to explain why he wears it. And, Nolan cares for the charactes. I'll post a longer answer with more vaild points later...

 

[Majik1387]

Agreed

 

[fabman]

Your avvy is disturbing, majik...

 

[Rezzo]

I have nothing against comic book movies being grounded by elements of reality such as BB, for some comic movies it could make them better and others worst but for Batman it really was a positive thing really made BB an excellent movie. Some comics need to be adapted in order to look good visually or else they would look just down right ridiculous like X-Men if they didn´t have the black leather suits, the point is to make a good movie and not all fans agree but in the end the fans don´t decide and never will and it´s better that way

 

[Joker]

If you dont want reality in comic book movies, go watch Batman & Robin...then come back and tell me how well not keeping them slightly grounded works out...man, some of you people are incredibly stupid...

 

[Spider-Bat]

I have nothing against comic book movies being grounded by elements of reality such as BB, for some comic movies it could make them better and others worst but for Batman it really was a positive thing really made BB an excellent movie. Some comics need to be adapted in order to look good visually or else they would look just down right ridiculous like X-Men if they didn´t have the black leather suits, the point is to make a good movie and not all fans agree but in the end the fans don´t decide and never will and it´s better that way

Thinking like that is what messes them up, is Spider-man ridiculous in his tights? No! And the X-men would have been fine aswell. I agree bright yellow on Wolvie wouldn't be the right choice but brown would be fine.

 

[Rezzo]

Thinking like that is what messes them up, is Spider-man ridiculous in his tights? No! And the X-men would have been fine aswell. I agree bright yellow on Wolvie wouldn't be the right choice but brown would be fine.

The Spider-Man outfit was well done but the X-Men´s comic outfits probably wouldn´t have worked visually well on screen and the black leather ones looked really good. When I first saw the movie X-Men I was a little disappointed with some of the outfits but after a while I realized it was for the best that the suits didn´t resemble the comic ones cause some would just look ridiculous right out of the comics cause some of the colors are too bright and of course we all know the movies ARE NOT suppose to be the comics cause if you want that just look at movies such as Batman & Robin, Spawn, Batman Forever all which sucked

 

[odiin]

Spider-Man was one guy in a costume, whereas the X-men ALL wear different brightly coloured costumes. Not the same by a mile.

 

[Dr. Fate]

I just like realistic looking special effects. I like special effect backgrounds to look as realistic as possible. I have kind of a rule with this and animation: if it's a comedy, then I don't hold out for the animation to look real because comedic animation leans towards the absurd and the outlandish. If the tone is a serious one, then I like the animation to look as real and organic as possible. One of the few things I didn't like about later series in the DCAU was that 99% of the characters looked like block figures, and that annoyed me.

With a film like "The Mask" starring Jim Carrey I don't mind as much if the SFX look blatantly fake, since that seems to go hand in hand with the film's humor. If I'm watching something like Lord of the Rings then I prefer the SFX to look as real as it can considering that it's dealing with monsters and other various outlandish things.

Never cared for the black leather X-Men suits, but then again they don't look nearly as bad as the washed out, rubbery suit worn by Routh in "Superman Returns". That suit was just... bleh.

 

[SupaFresh208]

@ Spider-Bat, the reason why lots of comic books cant be made straight to movie is because comic books are not written in that format. Come on now you should kno that don't let your personal feelings for a comic/character get into your way of realizing that. Just about everyone knows comicbook characters are not real but if the movie is written correctly then all that does not matter. In Spiderman I a point could be made about the Green Goblin he never looked like that but I believe Raimi changed him for the better and the end result was a more realistic goblin. X-Men come on Spider-Bat all those colors would just look silly. In Superman Returns I kind of forgot about what Superman looked like because the movie put me right to sleep in the theaters (glad I didnt pay for it).

The point I'm trying to make is they alter the movie for the realistic element not because they don't have the imagination to support it

 

[Spider-Bat]

The Spider-Man outfit was well done but the X-Men´s comic outfits probably wouldn´t have worked visually well on screen and the black leather ones looked really good. When I first saw the movie X-Men I was a little disappointed with some of the outfits but after a while I realized it was for the best that the suits didn´t resemble the comic ones cause some would just look ridiculous right out of the comics cause some of the colors are too bright and of course we all know the movies ARE NOT suppose to be the comics cause if you want that just look at movies such as Batman & Robin, Spawn, Batman Forever all which sucked

Their suits would've been fine, some could have been tweaked a little and would have been fine. It doesn't matter if it's one suit or many, they are Superheroes, that is what they wear. they are meant to stand out from the rest of the world, that is the point. To say Spidey's just one doesn't make sense, what about his villians as well all dressed up like GG and Venom.

It's all a fantasy and meant to look that way, I watch these things to leave the real world and escape, if I want realism I'll watch the news.

 

[Sloth7d]

No. The X-men costumes had too many different colors trying to mesh togethor. The leather suits was a good idea. And its just the X-men. As you see evey other superhero movies stick well to the original comicbook design. X-men had to be an exception because of the colors.

 

[Chelsea]

Those suits are ridiculous looking. They don't even make sense. The X-Men are an underground strikeforce. They're not a bunch of clowns parading around like idiots.

 

[Rezzo]

Their suits would've been fine, some could have been tweaked a little and would have been fine. It doesn't matter if it's one suit or many, they are Superheroes, that is what they wear. they are meant to stand out from the rest of the world, that is the point. To say Spidey's just one doesn't make sense, what about his villians as well all dressed up like GG and Venom.

It's all a fantasy and meant to look that way, I watch these things to leave the real world and escape, if I want realism I'll watch the news.

You don´t get it

No. The X-men costumes had too many different colors trying to mesh togethor. The leather suits was a good idea. And its just the X-men. As you see evey other superhero movies stick well to the original comicbook design. X-men had to be an exception because of the colors.

This guy gets it

 

[Dr. Fate]

Those suits are ridiculous looking. They don't even make sense. The X-Men are an underground strikeforce. They're not a bunch of clowns parading around like idiots.

Someone should have told Stan Lee and his cronies that back in the 1960s.

It's almost mind boggling to think that those "ridiculous" looking costumes lasted so long, isn't it?

 

[spidey-dude]

actually the x-mens costumes changed countless times, the x-men originally all wore a team costumes which was blue and yellow, all matching

bar x-men though most comic films have tried to keep the costume...spider-man, daredevil, punisher, and ghostrider all have comic accurate costumes

 

[Rezzo]

bar x-men though most comic films have tried to keep the costume...spider-man, daredevil, punisher, and ghostrider all have comic accurate costumes

Yea but the thing about their costumes is that they aren´t bright colored costumes like the X-Men´s

 

[Tempest19]

If you dont want reality in comic book movies, go watch Batman & Robin...then come back and tell me how well not keeping them slightly grounded works out...man, some of you people are incredibly stupid...

Agreed with everything you said and couldn't say it better myself.

 

[spidey-dude]

Yea but the thing about their costumes is that they aren´t bright colored costumes like the X-Men´s

spider-man and daredevils are, red and blue and red......the ff had a pretty decent translation too

imho though for x-men the costumes had to "match" and be a team costume, having them all in different costumes would have made them seem more like a band of individual heroes and not a team....plus I think it works as they are not people that want to draw attention to themselves

 

[nocomics]

If you dont want reality in comic book movies, go watch Batman & Robin...then come back and tell me how well not keeping them slightly grounded works out...man, some of you people are incredibly stupid...

haha, ya so true.
Theres gotta be some 'realism' in these movies or they become so over the top they become stupid. PLus if u get too comic in the movie it won't appeal to the masse's,and thats the main point. Make much money as u can.
Me personally most comicbook movies are better when they take a 'darker tone' to them,all this 'wham','bam', type stuff should be saved for the comic books,not the movies...
There has to be some basis,some realism to these type of movies whether u or I like it. As I said, I'd prefer a darker theme to comic movies than portrayed in comic books. It just seems to work better if they do,though spider-man has been the exception to this rule.
I know some directors don't wanna do these type of movies as the criticism is very high from fans,studio execs. etc.. Just can't win for losing with these type of movies..

 

[coreymb16]

A comic book film with reality in it makes it interesting.

 

[Spider-Bat]

Saw FF 2 today and it showed that with Doom's look that when you stay closer to the comic book it is better than what 'they' come up with for the movie, what the filmmakers come up with is lame compared to what's in the comics, they need to stick with what is in the books, if it aint broke don't fix it.

What's been in the comics and worked in the comics is better than anything they can come up with.
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Doom looked incredible in Rise of the SilverSurfer. And the only let down was Galactus, the clouds looked more like tools but I thought he'd be revealed behind all that but, no, it was a shame, they alreasy had a silver guy flying through space on a surf board so just put in the giant world eater!!! No more of saying it doesn't work, it is a comic book it will work that is why it is a comic book genre film etc., people don't go to dramas like Brokeback mountain or Schindler's List expecting to see aliens, so I don't go to see my fave comic heroes brought to life and only see dull crap.

 

[Mr. Socko]

When they reboot X-Men, I want them to be more creative with the costumes. That doesn't mean I want everyone to be wearing purple, yellow, pink, and red. But I think they should able to make something that works a little better that ain't just plain black leather either.