No One Talking About Valerie Plame??

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Former State Dept. Official: I Leaked Plame's Name to Reporters
Friday, September 08, 2006



WASHINGTON
— A former top official in the State Department acknowledges he was the source who outed a CIA operative to reporters, but he says it was an accident and he's sorry.

Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage, the former No. 2 official in the department, said he inadvertently disclosed Valerie Plame's identity in conversations with syndicated columnist Robert Novak and Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward.

"I made a terrible mistake, not maliciously, but I made a terrible mistake," Armitage said in a telephone interview from his home Thursday night. He said he did not realize Plame's job was covert.

"I did what I did," Armitage said. "I embarrassed my president, my secretary, my department, my family and I embarrassed the Wilsons. And for that I'm very sorry."

For almost three years, an investigation led by Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald has tried to determine whether Bush administration officials intentionally revealed Plame's identity as a covert operative as a way to punish her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, for criticizing the Bush administration's march to war with Iraq.

Armitage's admission suggested that the leak did not originate at the White House as retribution for Wilson's comments about the Iraq war. Wilson, a former ambassador, discounted reports that then-Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had tried to buy yellowcake uranium from Niger to make a nuclear weapon — claims that wound up in President Bush's 2003 State of the Union address.

Armitage said he was not a part of a conspiracy to reveal Plame's identity and did not know whether one existed.

He described his June 2003 conversation with Woodward as an afterthought at the end of a lengthy interview.

"He said, 'Hey, what's the deal with Wilson?' and I said, 'I think his wife works out there,"' Armitage recalled.

He described a more direct conversation with Novak, who was the first to report on the issue: "He said to me, 'Why did the CIA send Ambassador Wilson to Niger?' I said, as I remember, 'I don't know, but his wife works out there."'

Armitage, whose admission was first reported by CBS News, said he cooperated fully with Fitzgerald's investigation. He was never a target of the investigation and did not hire a lawyer. He agreed to speak to reporters after Fitzgerald released him from a promise of confidentiality.

Armitage said he considered coming forward late last month when a flurry of news reports identified him as the leak. But he said he did not want to be accused of trying to get the story out during the summer's slow news cycle.

I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, a former top aide to Vice President Dick Cheney, is the only administration official charged in the CIA leak case. He faces trial in January on charges he lied to authorities about conversations he had with reporters about Plame.

Armitage said he assumed Plame's job was not a secret because it was included in a State Department memo.



Well well well..............again Bush is innocent. Chenney is innocent. I guess that's not worthy of talking about on this board. Right?
 
A member of Bush's administration has been officially charged in the case, a former top aide to Cheney no less. And another former Deputy Secretary Of State is also directly involved in the leak as well. I have a hard time believing that at some point, the higher ups didn't have at least a vague idea of what was going on. And if they didn't, then they're in gross negligence. Either way, they're guilty as hell in my eyes and should swing from the gallows for it.

jag
 
jaguarr said:
A member of Bush's administration has been officially charged in the case, a former top aide to Cheney no less. And another former Deputy Secretary Of State is also directly involved in the leak as well. I have a hard time believing that at some point, the higher ups didn't have at least a vague idea of what was going on. And if they didn't, then they're in gross negligence. Either way, they're guilty as hell in my eyes and should swing from the gallows for it.

jag

why isn't everyone talking about this???????????
 
Because I don't give a damn about it. I refuse to side with either party.
 
Because the whole liberal notion of a "conspiracy" to bring down the "noble, great man" that supposedly is Joe Wilson turned out to not be true. So the media's trying to sweep it under the rug.
 
[Brian Ferry]What's her name? Valerie Plame...[/Brian Ferry]
 
cass said:
Because the whole liberal notion of a "conspiracy" to bring down the "noble, great man" that supposedly is Joe Wilson turned out to not be true. So the media's trying to sweep it under the rug.


Who ever said Joe Wilson is a great man. We just thought it was a dick move on the part of someone within the Bush Administration.
 
Celldog has become a parody unto himself.
 
bored said:
Who ever said Joe Wilson is a great man. We just thought it was a dick move on the part of someone within the Bush Administration.

Exactamundo! :up:

jag
 
How the Bush Haters are Hurting America
Thursday, September 07, 2006
By Bill O'Reilly

How the Bush haters are hurting America. As you may know I've been hard on the far left for its dishonest analysis of what's going in America. And now the Valerie Plame case illustrates my point.

You know, we didn't cover the exposure of Ms. Plame as a CIA agent because we had no idea who did it or why. And speculation is not our game.

Well, finally a few weeks ago, former State Department official Richard Armitage was outed as the leaker after three years of misreporting [/B]by the far left. Enterprises like Air America and MSNBC flat out accused the Bush administration, and especially Karl Rove and Scooter Libby, of breaking the law by leaking Plame's name.

So did Robert Seigel, host of NPR's "All Things Considered." And so did the usual irresponsible suspects in the print press.

Cynthia Tucker in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution editorialized, "The White House and [Karl] Rove have denied for two years that he played any role whatsoever in Plame's exposure.those statements now look like lies."



New York Times columnist Paul Krugman said, "I don't know whether Mr. Rove can be convicted of a crime, but there's no question that he damaged national security for partisan advantage."

L.A. Times columnist Robert Scheer, who was fired by the paper, chimed in. "Rove attempted to destroy the credibility of two national security veterans."

Now all of those far left people were wrong and smeared Rove and others. Shouldn't they be forced to apologize? This is dangerous.

All over the world, millions of people believe America is evil, worse than the terrorists. And the unrelenting hate-Bush media in this country fuels that ridiculous concept.

Quite simply, the Bush haters are out of control and are hurting the country. It is patriotic to responsibly disagree with the president or with any administration. But it is wrong to smear public servants in any party.

So "Talking Points" is respectfully asking all of those who erroneously analyze the Plame affair to admit your mistakes, and be more responsible in the future. OK? We'll be waiting.

That's "The Memo."

Most Ridiculous Item of the Day

Three weeks from today my new book, "Culture Warrior," will be in the stores. Of course, that's not ridiculous. Shame on you for even thinking that.

On BillOReilly.com, I explain what "Culture Warrior" is all about. And there is a short test you can take to see exactly where you stand on America's culture war. It's multiple choice. No worries, you can't flunk. It's also a lot of fun to take the test. But not ridiculous at all.

Check out BillOReilly.com for the latest on "Culture Warrior." You also can order the book. We'll get it to you, I think, before anybody else gets it.

—
 
Yeah, Because we all know Bill O'Reilly is a genius and could never be wrong. :whatever:
 
Superman said:
Yeah, Because we all know Bill O'Reilly is a genius and could never be wrong. :whatever:

LMAO! :up:

jag
 
yeah, anything by Bill O'Reilly has no credebilty at all, unless it's him making lewd phone calls to a female co-worker talking about how he's *********ing and has a ***** in his ass...yeah, that Bill O'Reilly, truely a beacon for god-fearing conservatives everywhere :o
 
Keep denying that fact the liberal fantasy of a Bush conspiracy to bring down Wilson was wrong, go ahead and make fun of O'Reilly and fantasize about raping Ann Coulter. It's truly amazing how the truth comes out and you have no reponse but to make fun of the people who were right all along.
 
The Joker said:
yeah, anything by Bill O'Reilly has no credebilty at all,

Sorry, I am not a huge fan of O'Reilly - but to simply disregard everything he says because you do not agree with him is a foolish thing to do. It seems that no matter how credible a report is, if you mention the name O'Reilly or any known Conservative journalist you are instantly blown off simply because they have a Conservative mindsett (I am of course not talking about all or most of those at the Hype - just to be clear - simply some of them)
 
celldog said:
Well well well..............again Bush is innocent. Chenney is innocent. I guess that's not worthy of talking about on this board. Right?

It's not really a matter of innocence.

Honestly, that Armitage guy has to feel like the size of a worn down eraser having to admit he's the one who caused the leak. Give the guy this...at least he stepped up and admitted it and said he was wrong. Whether he MEANT it is another story, heh. But it still takes guts to admit you're in the wrong.

And to further acknowledge this quote...George Bush is probably one of the worst presidents that America has had. I've never heard people, after voting for a president, actually admit that they made the wrong decision. And I hear that all the time with people who voted for Bush. Why? Because he's a freakin' talking monkey, that's why.

And he's also a president more concerned with a foreign country than he is the state of his own. This country is overrun with drugs, illegal weapons, and dangerous street gangs...and yet we have to focus on a country that gives two ****s about America. Yeah, a great man and a great president, huh? :whatever:
 
Superman said:
Yeah, Because we all know Bill O'Reilly is a genius and could never be wrong. :whatever:

I don't see how laying out the events as they were RECORDED ON NATIONAL TV could make someone "wrong". The Bush administration was DIRECTLY accused of leaking Plame's name by MANY, MANY members of the democratic party. That's not a matter of opinion, and therefore something someone could be "wrong" about. That's a fact. It was all over the news for Christ's sake.

All of the arguments about this seem to be nothing more than either blind defense of the left or blind hatred for the right. So much for reasonable discernment, right?

I mean, as this thread clearly demonstrates, the liberal rules as they exist MUST be:

1) Bush is always wrong and/or at fault.
2) If it appears that Bush is not wrong and/or at fault, see rule number 1.

:rolleyes:
 
cass said:
Keep denying that fact the liberal fantasy of a Bush conspiracy to bring down Wilson was wrong, go ahead and make fun of O'Reilly and fantasize about raping Ann Coulter. It's truly amazing how the truth comes out and you have no reponse but to make fun of the people who were right all along.

How is anything in that O'Reilly article fact? It's an opinion piece, pure and simple, and a typical O'Rielly one at that. I don't even consider Ann Coulter a political pundit. She's an entertainer who thrives on negative attention. It's not my fantasty to rape her, but thanks for saying so. I don't think there was a Bush conspiracy to bring down Wilson, I just think it was a dick move on the part of the administration to do what they did. Either Bush and Cheney knew what Libbey and Armitage were doing and didn't stop it, or they didn't know at all which means they're in gross negligence of being aware of what's going on in their own administration. It's truly amazing how the truth gets buried in across the board blanket statements about liberals from neo-cons who can't distinguish reality from their own fantasies of all liberals being the same and thinking they know exactly what all liberals are thinking. If people like you would get off of their partisan high-horses and stop trying to be so divisive about everything, maybe we could start cleaning up the complete mess that our country has become. Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, but you have zero clue about what you are talking about.

jag
 
jaguarr said:
How is anything in that O'Reilly article fact? It's an opinion piece, pure and simple, and a typical O'Rielly one at that. I don't even consider Ann Coulter a political pundit. She's an entertainer who thrives on negative attention. It's not my fantasty to rape her, but thanks for saying so. I don't think there was a Bush conspiracy to bring down Wilson, I just think it was a dick move on the part of the administration to do what they did. Either Bush and Cheney knew what Libbey and Armitage were doing and didn't stop it, or they didn't know at all which means they're in gross negligence of being aware of what's going on in their own administration. It's truly amazing how the truth gets buried in across the board blanket statements about liberals from neo-cons who can't distinguish reality from their own fantasies of all liberals being the same and thinking they know exactly what all liberals are thinking. If people like you would get off of their partisan high-horses and stop trying to be so divisive about everything, maybe we could start cleaning up the complete mess that our country has become. Thanks for trying to put words in my mouth, but you have zero clue about what you are talking about.

jag

The meat of his "opinion piece" is not fiction or fantasy. He's forming an opinion piece AROUND the facts that exist, i.e. the FACT that many, many liberals flat out accused Bush and the Bush administration of DIRECTLY leaking Plame's name.
 
lazur said:
The meat of his "opinion piece" is not fiction or fantasy. He's forming an opinion piece AROUND the facts that exist, i.e. the FACT that many, many liberals flat out accused Bush and the Bush administration of DIRECTLY leaking Plame's name.

It's still an opinion piece. He puts his own perception and opinion around those facts, and uses them to support his talking points. Any pundit can do that, liberal or neo-conservative. Twisting facts to support an opinion sort of undermines the credibility of the facts presented, if you ask me.

jag
 
lazur said:
I don't see how laying out the events as they were RECORDED ON NATIONAL TV could make someone "wrong". The Bush administration was DIRECTLY accused of leaking Plame's name by MANY, MANY members of the democratic party. That's not a matter of opinion, and therefore something someone could be "wrong" about. That's a fact. It was all over the news for Christ's sake.

All of the arguments about this seem to be nothing more than either blind defense of the left or blind hatred for the right. So much for reasonable discernment, right?

I mean, as this thread clearly demonstrates, the liberal rules as they exist MUST be:

1) Bush is always wrong and/or at fault.
2) If it appears that Bush is not wrong and/or at fault, see rule number 1.

:rolleyes:
Translation: Liberals bad, Bush is god, Blah blah blah.:whatever:
 
The Joker said:
yeah, anything by Bill O'Reilly has no credebilty at all, unless it's him making lewd phone calls to a female co-worker talking about how he's *********ing and has a ***** in his ass...yeah, that Bill O'Reilly, truely a beacon for god-fearing conservatives everywhere :o

Does Bill Clinton have credibility to you?
 

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