No Time To Die (Bond 25)

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[Tacit Ronin]

I'd like to see any such handover to the 'younger version' actually include craig (or mention of him) retiring and taking a 'teaching position at our academy'..

Please no. That would revive the dreaded code name nonsense.

 

[The Batman]

Regarding Craig at the BAFTA'S, I feel that as early as Spectre, Craig has had a more plastic-looking face.

 

[The Shape]

He did look pretty weird and puffy at the BAFTAs.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Please no. That would revive the dreaded code name nonsense.

Yeah I think if there's a reboot (and I'm certain there will be when Nolan inevitably takes over) it'll just be a fresh start with no connection to the Craig era.

I think we're past the days of having the loose continuity we saw from Connery to Brosnan.

 

[Marvolo]

A James Bond film directed by Boyle...

I know how that will turn out. A good script, but a return to the awful editing of QOS, with the added problem of weird camera shenanigans.

 

[Brian Braddock]

Please no. That would revive the dreaded code name nonsense.

Still find it staggering that anyone, even one person, actually believes that ****. Not only is the concept of it complete rubbish, it just doesn't make any sense.

 

[chamber-music]

They should just go with Yann Demange. He isn't a big name director yet but he is tipped to be one day.

Demange first film 71 won him the British Independent Film Award for Best Director and was nominated for the BAFTA Award for Outstanding Debut by a British Writer, Director or Producer.

Demange next movie White Boy Rick scored in the high nineties with test audiences.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Still find it staggering that anyone, even one person, actually believes that ****. Not only is the concept of it complete rubbish, it just doesn't make any sense.

The only thing I can think is that people are more familiar with the "idea" of James Bond or have only watched a small handful of films (generally the most recent ones) as opposed to actually knowing the series and character. If you've watched and remember the whole series, I don't see how you can possibly think it is just a code name.

Although Skyfall was the most watched Bond film in decades and it deals directly with his past, clearly showing it isn't a code name, so maybe people just don't pay attention.

 

[DyeLorean]

It is starting to feel like James Bond is a dated character. The problem is, once you start altering his personality and adapting for modern times, he kinda loses what makes him Bond, you know what I mean? The character worked wonderfully in Casino Royale, but by SPECTRE he was falling into old traps again.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

It is starting to feel like James Bond is a dated character. The problem is, once you start altering his personality and adapting for modern times, he kinda loses what makes him Bond, you know what I mean? The character worked wonderfully in Casino Royale, but by SPECTRE he was falling into old traps again.

Bond has been a dated character by the franchises own admission since Goldeneye, his flaws and outdated behavior at this point need to be openly treated as flaws and dated behavior in the films now and then, this is something that Goldeneye, Casino Royale, and Skyfall understood and I think it's a big part of why they're the best received of the more modern Bond films. I think Spectre lost sight of that on more than a few occasions.

 

[TheVileOne]

Yes. Casino Royale stripped away all the superhero garbage and made Bond a flawed vulnerable human being again. He's not a hero. He's a government sponsored hitman. An assassin. He's a "blunt instrument." And Casino Royale actually explores what that does to a person.

 

[Marvolo]

He's still a hero. Even in Casino Royale. Even in QOS when he is only thinking about revenge he still stops a coup, helps kill a corrupt general that rapes women, helps Camille get revenge, and he puts a wrench in Quantum's plans which gets Greene killed.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Bond has been a dated character by the franchises own admission since Goldeneye, his flaws and outdated behavior at this point need to be openly treated as flaws and dated behavior in the films now and then, this is something that Goldeneye, Casino Royale, and Skyfall understood and I think it's a big part of why they're the best received of the more modern Bond films. I think Spectre lost sight of that on more than a few occasions.

Goldeneye and Casino Royale maybe. But not Skyfall. Which is about how old fashioned James Bond is, and how that is a good thing.

"Sometimes the old ways are the best".

 

[TheVileOne]

I think you know what I mean Marvolo

 

[Aximili86]

Bond has been a dated character by the franchises own admission since Goldeneye, his flaws and outdated behavior at this point need to be openly treated as flaws and dated behavior in the films now and then, this is something that Goldeneye, Casino Royale, and Skyfall understood and I think it's a big part of why they're the best received of the more modern Bond films. I think Spectre lost sight of that on more than a few occasions.

They are considered "flaws". They're also shown as the sort of thing that makes him stand out and actually get stuff done.

 

[James.B]

Boyle has chosen to do a different film instead
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/danny-boyle-richard-curtis-team-universal-comedy-1089881?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%20Breaking%20News_2018-03-01%2011%3A00%3A00_pshanley&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_breakingnews&__twitter_impression=true

 

[Aximili86]

**** yeah.

I like Boyle, but he's just too similar to Mendes. We need to distance ourselves from the Skyfall/Spectre feel a little with this one.

 

[Roose Bolton]

The problem, as I understand it, was that Boyle basically would only do it if he and his Trainspotting writer could start again from scratch and do their own concept for the film. EON obliged and let him and his screenwriter come up with an alternative script which they would consider, and if it was better than the concept they originally had they'd go with that and if not they'd stick with their current plan.

I'm not entirely sure, but sounds like Boyle's script wasn't coming along quickly enough.

 

[Aximili86]

Yeah. I'm one of those in the boat that sort of prefers "workhorse" directors for Bond than the big-name creative auteur types anyway. If he wanted total control, and total control was going to result in the movie being a further year out or whatever, they made the right call.

Probably just best to get someone in the Campbell mold for this - someone really competent and with an understanding of the material, but willing to work off someone else's script and generally be a team player. We've had two arty types in Forster & Mendes for the last films - and they're really talented guys - just not sure it's really an ideal approach for Bond.

 

[Galactus123]

Daniel Craig turns 50 years old today!

 

[elgaz]

Watched Logan Lucky the other night, Craig was great in it. Really nails the Southern accent and after yrs of watching him as quintessentially English Bond, it's actually a bit disconcerting the first time you hear him speak in it.

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[James.B]

 

[TheVileOne]

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