BvS Nolan goes from exec. producer to no involvement at all.

No Nolan, no Man of Steel. He was the one responsible for getting the project through, Goyer came to him with the script and Nolan presumably used his power with the big wigs at WB to make it, I would also assume he had something to do with Snyder getting the job as well. So yeah, it's far more than adding Tim Burton's name to Batman Forever just for transition purposes.
 
I just hope Ben compensates for Nolan taking the backseat.

I do too, they got Affleck as the Bat, so might as well use him in full capacity and get the guy to have creative control over his character. I'd rather see him direct his own Bat films and possibly the JL film over Snyder any day.
 
As cool as it would be to see an Affleck-directed Bat-film, I feel like it'd be a huge display of ego too. I've always felt that Affleck needed to stop starring in his own movies, because face it- there are better actors out there. Playing Batman in your own movie...I just don't know. To quote Lucius...it's too much power for one person. lol

Granted, it might very well happen and turn out awesome. It's just a hard thing to get my head around at the moment. It'd be pretty tricky to direct from behind the cowl when you can't hear a thing. :oldrazz:
 
Affleck is at his best when self-directed. While I wouldn't gloss over other capable directors, Affleck in the director's seat is no step-down by any means. He would know more than anyone how to capture and bring out the most out of a character who is notoriously stoic.
 
If your hiring a director whose latest film won Best Picture at the Oscars as a franchise lead, you should get him to direct too.
 
As cool as it would be to see an Affleck-directed Bat-film, I feel like it'd be a huge display of ego too. I've always felt that Affleck needed to stop starring in his own movies, because face it- there are better actors out there. Playing Batman in your own movie...I just don't know. To quote Lucius...it's too much power for one person. lol

Granted, it might very well happen and turn out awesome. It's just a hard thing to get my head around at the moment. It'd be pretty tricky to direct from behind the cowl when you can't hear a thing. :oldrazz:

Ego or not, it is completely irrelevant if what you get on screen is working, and Affleck has shone under his own direction thus far. I do get what you are saying though, directing and acting on a film like Argo or The Town is one thing but on something as huge as Batman? That is a lot of power and Affleck would not only need to understand the character completely but have others that can anchor him down and vet some of his ideas, it's unprecedented, sure...but who knows maybe it will work completely in favour for any Bat-film in the future.
 
If Affleck does get the job for directing the new Batman films, we're are going to be so spoiled. Not a step-down from Nolan at all.
 
I just hope Ben compensates for Nolan taking the backseat.

Nolan's not the end-all-and-be-all of DC. He's just a very skilled storyteller. Now Bruce TIMM, on the other hand :word:

But ditto about Ben. If Zack tries to have any scene as troublesome as the Tornado moment, Ben should step in and explain to him why it won't work.
 
I seriously hope his involvement is more than playing Batman, which I believe it is :applaud
 
And hopefully if Talia ever returns...she won't be told to go
"Ugh, I'm dead" like Nolan directed her to :D

Ben will make it all kinds of awesome ;)
 
I'd love a Bat film directed by Affleck.

Honestly who wouldn't?

If Affleck does get the job for directing the new Batman films, we're are going to be so spoiled. Not a step-down from Nolan at all.

Far from it, after watching Gone Baby Gone and The Town I knew Ben had the smarts to do a Bat film right. Argo just nailed that point home.

Nolan's not the end-all-and-be-all of DC. He's just a very skilled storyteller. Now Bruce TIMM, on the other hand :word:

But ditto about Ben. If Zack tries to have any scene as troublesome as the Tornado moment, Ben should step in and explain to him why it won't work.

No one said he was, doesn't make it any less hard to continue on after him, nor does it make it any less of a loss for cinematic Batman.
 
JLA needs a quality director MORE though (because of all the different characters that can get screwed up by a bad movie). I want Ben to direct JL.

Really, having Ben direct 75 percent of the Justice League movie and Zack Snyder directing about 25 percent would make for a killer movie.
 
JLA needs a quality director MORE though (because of all the different characters that can get screwed up by a bad movie). I want Ben to direct JL.

Really, having Ben direct 75 percent of the Justice League movie and Zack Snyder directing about 25 percent would make for a killer movie.

I would like Ben to direct a JL film as well. I liked the idea last year when it was suggested and I like it now. It would definitely bring some legitimacy to the film rather than "from the director of man of steel which half of you hated"
 
Why not have both of them direct it? "From Zack Snyder: The Director of 300, Watchmen, and Man of Steel and Ben Affleck: Academy Award Winning Director of Gone Baby Gone, The Town, and Argo." I'd pay to see that. :D
 
Why not have both of them direct it? "From Zack Snyder: The Director of 300, Watchmen, and Man of Steel and Ben Affleck: Academy Award Winning Director of Gone Baby Gone, The Town, and Argo." I'd pay to see that. :D

Because I'd rather the film I'd watch be the vision of one director rather than it be a mish mash of styles. Besides no offence to Snyder (I loved Man of Steel) but there isn't much that Snyder can bring that Affleck couldn't.
 
Yes, yes, yes. There have been controversial Batman movies (Batman Returns, The Dark Knight Rises) But at this point in Zack's career, any work with a broader concept than zombies or Greek warriors is divisive, because of how he handles such concepts.
If Zack makes another Batman movie, it will probably be controversial. Batman can survive controversy (assuming Affleck doesn't direct the first installment of the Batman reboot).

I don't think Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, MM, etc can afford that risk.

I still think Snyder should do a bit of the action (and a bit of that action should take place in space as to avoid accusations of a bloodbath) and maybe a stylized scene of a character being revealed from the shadows. He should definitely be responsible for putting together a lot of the SCALE shots, and can help Affleck decide on more visually striking camera angles.

But Affleck should be behind a bulk of the scripting and a heavy amount of the directing for JL. It's DC's last real chance to start a shared universe. WB doesn't know how to take risks. That's why they keep going back to Superman and Batman OR producing mostly poor films, because they find the people they feel comfortable with, rather than directors with a strong independent sensibility OR passion for the genre. Or both, but that's kind of a dream come true ;)
 
Unless Snyder and Affleck have some kind of revelation on set that leads them to think they were meant to direct together, I'd rather it just be one of them directing JLA. One ship, one captain. The successful directing duos have longstanding relationships.
 
Affleck expressed his uneasiness with visual effects tentpoles, so I'm not sure he would be completely up for it. Snyder's talents easily fit the JL mold, and a co-direction isn't bad at all given they are both on the same page.
 
Yes, yes, yes. There have been controversial Batman movies (Batman Returns, The Dark Knight Rises) But at this point in Zack's career, any work with a broader concept than zombies or Greek warriors is divisive, because of how he handles such concepts.
If Zack makes another Batman movie, it will probably be controversial. Batman can survive controversy (assuming Affleck doesn't direct the first installment of the Batman reboot).

I don't think Wonder Woman, The Flash, Green Arrow, Green Lantern, MM, etc can afford that risk.

I still think Snyder should do a bit of the action (and a bit of that action should take place in space as to avoid accusations of a bloodbath) and maybe a stylized scene of a character being revealed from the shadows. He should definitely be responsible for putting together a lot of the SCALE shots, and can help Affleck decide on more visually striking camera angles.

But Affleck should be behind a bulk of the scripting and a heavy amount of the directing for JL. It's DC's last real chance to start a shared universe. WB doesn't know how to take risks. That's why they keep going back to Superman and Batman OR producing mostly poor films, because they find the people they feel comfortable with, rather than directors with a strong independent sensibility OR passion for the genre. Or both, but that's kind of a dream come true ;)

Theres only one Snyder that should be touching Batman (and not in that dirty way) and it isn't Zack. I don't even have full faith in him to do a Batman film let alone a Justice League movie, he should wrap up at Man of Steel 3, and let Affleck direct and co write (with someone else) a JL movie and a Batman trilogy, if not Affleck then find someone else.
 
Ben could easily be shown how to do special effects and visuals with Snyder's help :)
 
Affleck expressed his uneasiness with visual effects tentpoles, so I'm not sure he would be completely up for it. Snyder's talents easily fit the JL mold, and a co-direction isn't bad at all given they are both on the same page.

If TV director Joss Whedon can bring his sensibilites to a film like the Avengers and make it work perfectly, then Affleck wouldn't need Snyder to make Justice League, if he really isn't comfortable with the action (which i doubt) then he's always got 2nd unit, directing credit still goes solely to him though.
 
^ THIS! We know what happens when a person used to shooting traditionally is out of his element.
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Now why didn't they say "By the Director of Casino Royale." That would have brought a higher international audience. I guess embarassment or something ;)
 

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