The Dark Knight Rises Nolan not coming back?

[The Guard]

Oh, that Jett and his scoops.

I can't wait till someone tries to pass off "Nolan will return for a third Batman film" as a scoop.

 

[BestGirl]

I think a lot of people are missing some basic, important elements here outside of the standard "if there's a story worth telling" line the public has been given for the past year.

Bottom line, this guy has invested several years of his life and career to this franchise and this character. Believe it or not, despite my issues with Superman Returns and Bryan Singer in general, he pretty much spelled it out in a recent interview when discussing the X-Men franchise, and I think it applies directly to this situation...

I'm eternally intertwined with X-Men now," he told them. "What takes an audience four hours to watch - the first two movies - took six years of my life. So, to not be part of it....It's a shame."

Nolan has devoted years of his life to this character and his vision of that universe. He'll be back for one last go. Not only is it an intriguing challenge to make a solid 3rd film, as most franchises have major issues with second sequels, but ultimately, when you work on projects like this, you have to have some sort of attachment, deeper understanding, and ultimately the final vision of the whole thing. Thats why so many casts and crew ultimately decide to return if the director is onboard and I think the situation here is just that.

The reason you aren't hearing anything and won't for a little while yet, is because they've literally been working on the story for the past few months as Inception gets ready to rock and roll. This is the truth. It's even been hinted at on some news sites, so this isn't just one of my inside scoops here.

It's happening. He's coming back for one last film.

Please, please, please be correct. *crosses fingers*

^I'd listen to this man.

Has he been right in the past? t:

 

[The Guard]

Yes. He has an inside source called "common sense", which many seem to lack.

 

[Garret]

I think Clooney would be awesome in the role, plus he's got Bat-history

Two letters:

1) N
2) O

 

[Ace of Knaves]

That doesn't mean he has to top himself through yet another sequel. If he wants to top himself with other projects then more power to him. He doesn't owe it to himself to make a better Batman film. And a fanboy of all people can not make that decision for him. Sometimes I wish he walks just so that fanboys who think they are entitled to a complete trilogy are left empty handed.

Who you calling a fan boy?

To be honest, I don't really give a toss. It won't be the end of the world for me if he doesn't come back. But obviously I'd prefer him to.

I'm just talking in general. In any profession like that, there HAS to be that drive to improve, to go back and try to blow everyone out of the water, again.

If these guys were like "OK, I've done my best, can't think of anything new." Then well, there would be no growth, there wouldn't be a TDK.

 

[KalMart]

Part of it is also knowing when you've done what you wanted to do with something, though. If these two movies have fully satisfied his desire to tell Batman stories and he wants to move on to other things, that's his prerogative and best of luck to him. I'd also be fine with just these two, but considering the success of TDK, you know WB'd want to keep it going with someone else at the helm. So ideally, if Nolan doesn't return, neither should the Batman that he put together for film....let them stand as gems that started and finished on their own terms...and then down the road someone else can do their version with their own story/cast/etc. It probably wouldn't stop like that, but I'd prefer that it did.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea same here. If Nolan doesn't continue I wouldn't want some one coming in and trying to imitate what he has done, trying to keep the same style and continuity. It would seem I dunno, shallow. And I'm pretty sure any director worth his salt wouldn't want to come in and try to imitate Nolan anyway.

 

[FaT_tONle]

If these guys were like "OK, I've done my best, can't think of anything new." Then well, there would be no growth, there wouldn't be a TDK.

Only he is thinking of something new... he is doing completely different things. Go figure.

 

[MadVillainy]

Yea same here. If Nolan doesn't continue I wouldn't want some one coming in and trying to imitate what he has done, trying to keep the same style and continuity. It would seem I dunno, shallow. And I'm pretty sure any director worth his salt wouldn't want to come in and try to imitate Nolan anyway.

Thank you.

Its so annoying on this site when ppl think that after Nolan and Bale leave that they should keep the same continuity forever or not even make another Batman film.
ANd then when I suggest a reboot they say it's lazy....its more lazy to keep one guy's continuity forever

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Well yea there is nothing wrong with doing different things. A director shouldn't be bogged down to one franchise and be known as "the Batman director".

But still, personally, if I was in that situation I would still wanna come back and try to do the improbable, try to better myself and astound everyone by topping what is widely considered to be THE comic book movie.

 

[MadVillainy]

Ya and the minute the studio or producers try to shove an idea down your throat you walk....

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea that's what I mean, he should only do it for himself really. If he wants to meet that challenge head on, to challenge HIMSELF for HIMSELF then go for it.

But he shouldn't be forced into it. I don't think he is the kinda guy who would be forced to do anything anyway.

 

[FaT_tONle]

But still, personally, if I was in that situation I would still wanna come back and try to do the improbable, try to better myself and astound everyone by topping what is widely considered to be THE comic book movie.

Then don't substitute your mentality for Nolan's mentality and then question his drive as a film maker if he wavers on a third because that same mentality may be farther from the truth than anyone here realizes.

 

[KalMart]

Yea that's what I mean, he should only do it for himself really. If he wants to meet that challenge head on, to challenge HIMSELF for HIMSELF then go for it.

But he shouldn't be forced into it. I don't think he is the kinda guy who would be forced to do anything anyway.

And he might find another project even more challenging to himself than Batman, too.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

When did I question his drive as a film maker? How can any of us question his drive as a film maker? We don't know what he is doing yet.

I was simply saying that I imagine a guy like Nolan would want to beat the odds, would want to come back for another crack and blow us all out of the water with a brilliant Batman story, again. That is why I think he will come back.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

And he might find another project even more challenging to himself than Batman, too.

Well yea of course. But I don't think there is a greater challenge out there than trying to create a better story and film than TDK. Just think of all the pressure to come out with another great Batman film. Granted most people probably won't expect a better film than TDK, but then if he does manage it, think of the achievement that would be. That is what would drive me.

 

[KalMart]

I think Nolan's interest in doing the story itself would be more relevant than his interest in beating any odds, though.

Well yea of course. But I don't think there is a greater challenge out there than trying to create a better story and film than TDK.

Well, there are a lot of films that I think are better films than TDK for various reasons...he may feel the same in terms of his interest in other projects. TDK may seem like the pinnacle in moviemaking to some fans or what have you, but not necessarily the kind of movie that any/every filmmaker would want to pursue over something else...even for the guy who actually directed it. Plus, based no his other movies, he's got a lot more in him. None of them may be as successful as TDK, but they could be even more creatively satisfying.

 

[The Joker]

Who you calling a fan boy?

You are a fan boy. I'm a fan boy, too. Everyone who went and registered on this message board to discuss superheros is a fan boy.

t:

 

[Ace of Knaves]

You are a fan boy. I'm a fan boy, too. Everyone who went and registered on this message board to discuss superheros is a fan boy.

t:

Good point.

But I was just saying I'm not an obsessive like some people. I don't really care what happens, it's just a movie at the end of the day. If Nolan comes back? ****ing brilliant! If not? I'm not gonna throw my toys out of the pram

 

[FaT_tONle]

When did I question his drive as a film maker? How can any of us question his drive as a film maker? We don't know what he is doing yet.

I was simply saying that I imagine a guy like Nolan would want to beat the odds, would want to come back for another crack and blow us all out of the water with a brilliant Batman story, again. That is why I think he will come back.

That's not what you were saying earlier... at all....

Well anyone can recognize professionalism. It would be professional for Nolan to come back again and try to better himself. That is the whole point of being in these kinds of industries IMO. They should always be pushing themselves to do better. Nolan would HAVE to push himself to top TDK. And I would imagine a guy like Nolan would relish that challenge.

That is what you call questioning his professionalism and drive as a film maker if he decides to pass on a third film.

 

[KalMart]

You are a fan boy. I'm a fan boy, too. Everyone who went and registered on this message board to discuss superheros is a fan boy.

t:

I'm not. I'm not even really into comics. But it's fun to discuss aspects of the movies.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

It's not questioning it. I think Nolan is a professional either way. But I do think it would be unprofessional if he literally said "Ok I've run out of ideas, I won't be able to improve on TDK so I'll give up". That's like boxer winning the world title and saying he doesn't want to defend it or go up a weight or whatever.

And the last bit you bolded, that is fact. Nolan would HAVE to push himself to top TDK. I think everyone knows that. He wouldn't be able to make a better film than TDK if his heart wasn't in it. So yea, if his heart isn't in it, then there is no point of him making another one. But as I've said, I think Nolan's heart would be in it.

 

[KalMart]

He wouldn't be 'giving up' on filmmaking, though. And TDK isn't necessarily the undisputed heavyweight champion of films, either. It's A particularly well-made and incredibly successful one, but that doesn't mean he should not pursue other movies that may interest him more now.

 

[FaT_tONle]

It's not questioning it. I think Nolan is a professional either way. But I do think it would be unprofessional if he literally said "Ok I've run out of ideas, I won't be able to improve on TDK so I'll give up". That's like boxer winning the world title and saying he doesn't want to defend it or go up a weight or whatever.

That's also your opinion. But when you use "Anyone can recognize it"... you project it as a contextual fact. For that matter, I don't think professionalism remotely embodies the context with which you use it in. For me, it would be more professional for him to walk if he knows for a fact he can not improve on his franchise. Hey but we are all guilty of sometimes confusing our opinion with fact... ask Hunter Rider what he thinks about me...

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Never said it was. Never said he shouldn't.