November 2006 Sales Charts & Market Share Report

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Very good news for the titles that came our last month. Civil War debuted the top book, with 272,600 in sales. And I think Punisher War Journal did a great job as well. The new series debuted at number 9 and sold 102,700 in sales. :unishr:

Little upset that Iron Fist didn't do well though....

Comic-book Title Issue Price Publisher Est. sales 1 Civil War 5 $2.99 Marvel 272,600 2 Justice League of America 3 $2.99 DC 140,900 3 New Avengers 25 CW $2.99 Marvel 136,500 4 Amazing Spider-Man 536 CW $2.99 Marvel 118,800 5 Astonishing X-Men 18 $2.99 Marvel 118,300 6 52 26 $2.50 DC 104,600 7 52 27 $2.50 DC 104,300 8 52 28 $2.50 DC 103,500 9 Punisher War Journal 1 CW $2.99 Marvel 102,700 10 52 29 $2.50 DC 102,700
 
Marvel dominates with four of the top five (if Astonishing could just get out on schedule, I think it could be even bigger). A strong debut for the Punisher's new series (Iron Fist didn't do nearly as well).

With no Civil War in December, will it be Justice League's turn to be on top?

Just below 80,000 copies of Captain America's final tie-in. I hope that series really gets an audience boost, because it is hands down the best thing on the market.
 
CaptainCanada said:
Marvel dominates with four of the top five (if Astonishing could just get out on schedule, I think it could be even bigger). A strong debut for the Punisher's new series (Iron Fist didn't do nearly as well).

With no Civil War in December, will it be Justice League's turn to be on top?

Just below 80,000 copies of Captain America's final tie-in. I hope that series really gets an audience boost, because it is hands down the best thing on the market.

I thought Punisher: War Journal and Iron Fist were going to do well. But it only seems War Journal turned out to get more sales. Honestly though, Punisher: War Journal and Immortal Iron Fist were the only titles I looked forward to in November. Both were great reads, War Journal doing well is awesome news, but I hope IF picks up aswell cause it was great.
 
Iron Fist wasnt a CW tie-in, and I dont think the fact that DD in CW was Iron Fist was even ever mentioned in any of the CW tie-ins, which probably didnt help its cause. Punisher got a huge boost spiining out of CW and having the CW tie-in banner as well and there were two versions of the same book, Regular color and Black and White which also probably boosted its sales. Theres no secret why it did so well.

Other titles are underperforming as well and X-Factor in the low 40's is a good sign from its regular low 50's standing. Checkmate, Uncle Sam and the Freedom Fighters and Jonah Hex out of the Top 100 is a damn shame and probably wont get any better. While other titles like New Avengers and Wolverine origins inexplicably continue strong sales. After debuting in the Top 10, Flash has taken a serious tumbel down to the forties, rightfully so.

Batman continues to win out over Detective but sales have dropped a bit for Batman while Detective was a fill in by two newcomers. 52 selling so strongly just further proves Joe Quesada wrong and that the industry might be ready for a weekly comic, as DC plans to continue beyond 52. Though without the OYL gimmick, it might not be a big seller. Even with delays Wonder Woman stays strong at #24 and CW tie-ins are really helping sales on Captain America and Iron Man.

Im surprised and actually grateful Action Comics under Donner and Johns only sold at #32 while Superman sells at #36 a much better title.Annihilation at #54 is disheartening but competing with Civil War is tough and considering Marvel has pretty much dumped any and all advertising for the book its not surprising.
 
The top ten are all selling over 100k.

That's encouraging. :up:
 
Darthphere said:
Punisher got a huge boost spiining out of CW and having the CW tie-in banner as well and there were two versions of the same book, Regular color and Black and White which also probably boosted its sales. Theres no secret why it did so well.

Yeah, there was alto behind War Journal doing so well. Punisher's fanbase is really good, so this new series being his return to the MU was a great one. NOt to mention, I got both varients of the book. :word:

Im surprised and actually grateful Action Comics under Donner and Johns only sold at #32 while Superman sells at #36 a much better title.Annihilation at #54 is disheartening but competing with Civil War is tough and considering Marvel has pretty much dumped any and all advertising for the book its not surprising.

I agree, i'm not liking the Action Comics run, the Superman title is far better for now.
 
Naturally, the PWJ #1 news is good news, as that book deserved to sell well. However, as always when these things come out, I am always dismayed at how many books I really like that continue to sell rather poorly. Or at least poorly by Marvel editorial standards (they consider most books that sell in the Top 80-100 as bad, and that's not entirely unfair). Naturally NEW AVENGERS is the best selling Marvel ongoing, but CW has been a huge boost to ASM, which two years ago was consistantly outsold by USM. Granted, ASM has now offically been relying on crossovers for sales for a good year now; THE OTHER, then PRELUDE, and now CW. Eventually it will have to stand on it's own again. USM, sucking arse through a straw with Clone Saga, is selling within the Top 25.

Marvel, for all their flaws, has been relaunching quite a few franchises either competantly or even well this year. MOON KNIGHT is one of them and it's good to see it still selling well enough at #27. It even outsold CW: YA/RUNAWAYS #4, which was also good (and within the Top 30). ETERNALS and GHOST RIDER (perhaps the worst of the relaunches due to retcons and ignorance by the writer) sell within the Top 30-45. Many books continue to "bleed" readers until they gain a steady audience, so to me a book is in a "danger zone" if it sells, especially debuts, past the Top 50. Especially since second issues are usually underordered.

ANNIHILATION #4, aces better than CW, should be selling better than #54, but I guess that's not too bad considering the cast and Marvel's hype machine is all but ignoring it. IRON FIST #1 debuted at #56, past the Top 55 which could be a sign of danger if it slides too much within the first 6 issues. It doesn't surprise me to see X-MEN: FIRST CLASS selling at #81, as it is a rather pointless X-mini in a market that doesn't need any. It's simply way more fun and readable than WARSONG sure it, and Warsong outsells it badly. DR. STRANGE: OATH also deserves to sell better than #84. However, the last issue of DAREDEVIL: FATHER from Joe Q, shipping very late, sold worse at #86. Keep in mind it was a Top 20 book when it first debuted. One can only wonder if lateness was a factor, and if seeing his own book lose thousands of readers may get the EIC to not be as willing to brush off timliness for issues.

RUNAWAYS should always sell better, but it at least has maintained a steady audience of 24,000-25,000 readers to remain within the Top 90 or so for a while (like maybe a year).

However, I was concerned at ANT-MAN #2 slipping a whopping 59 slots to sell at #122. That's almost at the level that MTU was selling by it's second year. This innovative and quirky dark tale was always a tough sell but if it keeps slipping, seeing an issue #7 may be impossible. It also appears that while CW: CHOOSING SIDES sold at #20, it did nothing to boost ANT-MAN's sales. Perhaps redefining a little that crossovers are steriods for sales and don't always work for the long term.
 
Darthphere said:
Annihilation at #54 is disheartening but competing with Civil War is tough and considering Marvel has pretty much dumped any and all advertising for the book its not surprising.


Annihilation gets advertised in Marvel Previews each month, from what i've seen...

Also; Keith Giffen was just chatting it up in the month before lasts issue of Wizard.
 
CaptainStacy said:
Annihilation gets advertised in Marvel Previews each month, from what i've seen...

Also; Keith Giffen was just chatting it up in the month before lasts issue of Wizard.


1) Not everybody gets Marvel Previews.

2) Giffen was talking about Giffen. Annihilation was mentioned, but wasnt the focus.
 
Darthphere said:
1) Not everybody gets Marvel Previews.

2) Giffen was talking about Giffen. Annihilation was mentioned, but wasnt the focus.


Where else should they be advertising it?

I've seen it in Comic Shop News as well, but other than that...

There really arent that many outlets, when you think about it. None off the top of my head.
 
CaptainStacy said:
Where else should they be advertising it?

I've seen it in Comic Shop News as well, but other than that...

There really arent that many outlets, when you think about it. None off the top of my head.


Um, Dread has been complaining about the massive amounts of ads in marvel comics, some being in house ads. I buy about 20 Marvel titles a month, I havent seen one ad for the event after issue #2 even once.
 
Darthphere said:
Um, Dread has been complaining about the massive amounts of ads in marvel comics, some being in house ads. I buy about 20 Marvel titles a month, I havent seen one ad for the event after issue #2 even once.

Well, Marvel is ALREADY advertising it, with color art and everything, in their main preview book. If fans arent biting THERE, why should Marvel put it elsewhere? especially with sales dropping each month.

If the initial fanbase is deserting it, why beat a dead (or in this case, dying) horse?
 
Is the concept of in-house advertising not catching on? I mean, Marvel Previews is fine, but honestly, lets be real as I said before, everybody doesnt get Marvel previews.
 
Wow, the consistency of 52 is staggering. I hope for many many more titles to go weekly, no matter who the company.
 
Is it really that surprising? I mean, at this point, why would anyone drop 52? I'm of the opinion that the only reason 52 is doing so well is because it has the Missing Year gimmick to go with it.
 
To be honest,I loved PWJ and I'm glad it placed in the top 10.As we all know,sales always tend to drop after the first issue or arc.In this case,I can see this book dropping into the 30s or 40s with books like Cap,DD and Hulk.It has a long way to fall,so I'm not too worried about the cancellation of the book.

I really don't understand the numbers for Iron Fist.It looked like alot of people were checking it out and reading it at first.Let's hope it stays steady or slowly moves into the 40s.

As someone mentioned,with the lack of CW in Dec,I expect to see #1 and 2 going to the JLA.

And yes,Busiek's Ubermench has far better writing and art than Johns/Donner/Kubert's Ubermench.
 
Well, the thing is, didnt Iron Fist sell out at Diamond? It could be doing well concortedly with the numbers of copies printed.
 
CaptainStacy said:
Well, Marvel is ALREADY advertising it, with color art and everything, in their main preview book. If fans arent biting THERE, why should Marvel put it elsewhere? especially with sales dropping each month.

If the initial fanbase is deserting it, why beat a dead (or in this case, dying) horse?

I actually agree.

I have seen it advertised in mags like wizard and marvel preview, and there have been some ads....but it just didn't seem interesting to me. Thats in the in-depth previews. I'd say that goes for a lot of people too judging by the sales. if the in depth previews don't convince, what can a one page ad do?


As for people wondering why wolverine origin sells? Simple: wolverine fighting x men, omega red, sabretooth and captain america. Hell Im buying it as soon as it hits trade. The fight with cap was the first time I have seen in a while where the writer remembered wolverine could fight!
 
Have any of those ads in Wizard been for an issue after #2? I buy Wizard every month so I know the answer.
 
Darthphere said:
Have any of those ads in Wizard been for an issue after #2? I buy Wizard every month so I know the answer.



If it's not catching on after in depth pre release previews, and by issue 3, it's probably not gonna catch on.

Let's face it, the story isn't that interesting, it's not as immediate as civil war and features a lot of lesser known/less popular characters. Hell Im surprised it was advertised at all, especially as some kind of event. Plus with too many events not everyone can buy both so they go for the more interesting one.

It's not hard to see why it's underperforming is my point.
 
Hilarious, your lack of taste knows no bounds.
 
Darthphere said:
Hilarious, your lack of taste knows no bounds.

Isn't it ironic...the series is set in space, where there is no vaccum and no air, and the series is in limbo, the place where there is no readership :P
 
Wow, what an awesome lame joke. :up:

Seriously, for you to call ANnihilation uninteresting its crazy. It easily beats antyhign Civil War has to offer.

Characters acting in character? Check.

Interesting and unique story? Check.

Character development? Check.

Big action? Check.

Characters you grew to care about? Check.

Good writing? Check.

Good art? Check.

On time? Check.
 
Darthphere said:
Wow, what an awesome lame joke. :up:

Seriously, for you to call ANnihilation uninteresting its crazy. It easily beats antyhign Civil War has to offer.

Characters acting in character? Check.

Interesting and unique story? Check.

Character development? Check.

Big action? Check.

Characters you grew to care about? Check.

Good writing? Check.

Good art? Check.

On time? Check.

Sorry I couldn't give a damn about nova and co. It seems like most people agree too.

I understand you being bitter and all that, but seriously, get over it. It flopped. accept it.
 
Horrorfan said:
Sorry I couldn't give a damn about nova and co. It seems like most people agree too.

I understand you being bitter and all that, but seriously, get over it. It flopped. accept it.


Actually it didnt, its underselling, and trust me, theres plenty of interest, theres a reason why stingy Marvel is greenlighting 2 ongoings coming out of Annihilation. So I guess you need to get informed before you start spouting crap.:up:
 

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