Official Cyclops/marsden Thread

[Hulkster]

I made a pic of Movie Cyke optic blasting Wolverine, can somebody make it into a gif?
Here is the link.
http://rapidshare.de/files/27523989/Cyclops.zip.html

 

[Stripesy Strip]

*sigh*

What could've/should've been. I can never stop thinking about this classic pose whenever I think of X3. It's one of the things that has left me bitter about The Last Stand as a whole.

Bad writing, no character development, and politics ruined what could've been the most emotional, darkest, and powerful movie out of the trilogy.

*Yawn*

Been there, done that.

At least in the movie we had the opportunity to see something new like Wolvie and Phoenix together in love and destruction where his powers was working against hers.

See that`s what I didn`t like about the ending of X2, that we got the same thing of the comics(with Jean dying). Why would we want the same damn thing? We might as well just pop the comic and forget about going to the theatre.

 

[LadyVader]

See that`s what I didn`t like about the ending of X2, that we got the same thing of the comics(with Jean dying). Why would we want the same damn thing? We might as well just pop the comic and forget about going to the theatre.

Oh, i don't know... because we like the damn thing. Because reading the comic book is one thing, but seeing it performed on a theatre screen in live action is a totally different experience.

What bothers us most of all is that producers keep the characters but change the stories, change their personalities, and take far more liberties then they should. Understandbly, what works in a comic book could never work in a movie and as such some modifications are in order, but Fox has crossed a line with X-men 3. Not only giving us a different story, but also changing what the original story was all about.

 

[Stripesy Strip]

Oh, i don't know... because we like the damn thing. Because reading the comic book is one thing, but seeing it performed on a theatre screen in live action is a totally different experience.

What bothers us most of all is that producers keep the characters but change the stories, change their personalities, and take far more liberties then they should. Understandbly, what works in a comic book could never work in a movie and as such some modifications are in order, but Fox has crossed a line with X-men 3. Not only giving us a different story, but also changing what the original story was all about.

Good for them! Making it exaclty like the comics would be boring as Hell. Heck maybe they should have avoided any type of stories related to these characters if fans are going to react that way. Maybe FOX should have never use Jean as Phoenix. The producers of Superman, Batman Begins and the spider-Man films were smart to not tie anything to stories from the comics so they don`t have to suffer the whine of hundreds of fans.

 

[LadyVader]

Those fans are fans for a reason, not just because. What part of "essence of a character" or "essence of a story" do you not understand? Change it around, make it modern, make it cinematic... but don't change the basic concept of the character. It's not boring. It's good storytelling.

Batman Begins did borrow a lot from Year one, as for the original concepts (Rachel Dawes, the microwave plot)... well they were inferior, not to mention stupid.

As is the case with most comic book movies today. What the writers dream up is inferior to the original story. If you want weak plots, that make no sense but involve lots of action, that is your problem. But don't insult the people that want more, and don't encourage producers to crap out these movies either.

 

[Hulkster]

*Yawn*

Been there, done that.

At least in the movie we had the opportunity to see something new like Wolvie and Phoenix together in love and destruction where his powers was working against hers.

See that`s what I didn`t like about the ending of X2, that we got the same thing of the comics(with Jean dying). Why would we want the same damn thing? We might as well just pop the comic and forget about going to the theatre.

Are you day dreaming? There is nothing new about Wolverine's lust for Jean it's been going for years. Did you get stuck in time or something? It seems like 1 minute is 1 year for you.

 

[ntcrawler]

Oh, i don't know... because we like the damn thing. Because reading the comic book is one thing, but seeing it performed on a theatre screen in live action is a totally different experience.

Very well said M'Lady!

What bothers us most of all is that producers keep the characters but change the stories, change their personalities, and take far more liberties then they should.

Well then when you change all that, how is that keeping the characters when there isn't enough of the character left?

Understandbly, what works in a comic book could never work in a movie and as such some modifications are in order, but Fox has crossed a line with X-men 3. Not only giving us a different story, but also changing what the original story was all about.

Exactly. Not only that but they didn't even keep it consistent across all 3 films. the only thing connecting X3 to X2 is Jean's resurrection. Everything else was changed so much it's nearly impossibly to accept this is a trilogy. It's more like 2 films plus a one-shot what-if spinoff.

 

[ntcrawler]

*Yawn*

Been there, done that.

Did you remember to get the t-shirt?

At least in the movie we had the opportunity to see something new like Wolvie and Phoenix together in love and destruction where his powers was working against hers.

Oh they were? And what powers were those since it's clear since the first day he appeared in the comics in 1975 that his powers DO NOT WORK THAT fast? He was regrowing major parts of his body almost instantly as fast as Phoenix could rip them off.

See that`s what I didn`t like about the ending of X2, that we got the same thing of the comics(with Jean dying).

What else would you prefer? Make her go blind and leave the X-men along with Scott between movies?

Why would we want the same damn thing?

So that we know we're watching X-men and not FOX's Wolverine and his annoying friends.

We might as well just pop the comic and forget about going to the theatre.

No, the real joy is having the comics you've grown up with and are familiar with being brought to life on screen with real people.

 

[ntcrawler]

Those fans are fans for a reason, not just because. What part of "essence of a character" or "essence of a story" do you not understand?

You understand that, I understand that, lots of fans here understand that. It's obivously FOX and the popcorn crowd who don't understand or appreciate that.

Change it around, make it modern, make it cinematic... but don't change the basic concept of the character. It's not boring. It's good storytelling.

Exactly. Do what needs to be done to be able to portray it on screen in a realistic and believable way. Do it in a way that will let us relate to the characters, their world, and their struggles. Like you and CapBeerCino keep pointing out, "comics are not the movies" is NOT an acceptable excuse for poor writing and storytelling.

As is the case with most comic book movies today. What the writers dream up is inferior to the original story.

It's sad, isn't it? that looking at some of the rewrites here and on other threads that a 16-year-old can outwrite some of these professionals. And you're absolutely correct. Why bother dreaming up their own ideas when they have 40 years of stories to draw from in the first place? Especially since what they come up with is weak and shallow and lacks imagination?

If you want weak plots, that make no sense but involve lots of action, that is your problem. But don't insult the people that want more, and don't encourage producers to crap out these movies either.

BRAVO!!! I'm glad there's someone like you on our side!

 

[gambitfire]

Good for them! Making it exaclty like the comics would be boring as Hell. Heck maybe they should have avoided any type of stories related to these characters if fans are going to react that way. Maybe FOX should have never use Jean as Phoenix. The producers of Superman, Batman Begins and the spider-Man films were smart to not tie anything to stories from the comics so they don`t have to suffer the whine of hundreds of fans.

Oh God, What a freaking Troll

 

[ntcrawler]

Oh God, What a freaking Troll

And this is where the guy shoots himself in the foot. If the audience never read the comics as lots of people like to point out, then they have nothing to be bored about since they never saw any of these stories before!!!

But that is no excuse to not stay true to concepts established in the source material. Alot of people saw LOTR who never read it before, and same with Spiderman, but the people who created those films certainly respected the source material and presented storylines that not only were more faithful to the source material and to those familiar, but stories where were certainly not boring to the newcomers either.

If it worked for LOTR and Spiderman, it can certainly work here. There is no excuse. None. Just like there is no excuse for bad writing.

 

[UraniaChang]

Something new? What's new in that movie? We just got a freaking FOX-Men movie with a Van Helsing ending.

 

[Aiden]

*Yawn*

Been there, done that.

At least in the movie we had the opportunity to see something new like Wolvie and Phoenix together in love and destruction where his powers was working against hers.

See that`s what I didn`t like about the ending of X2, that we got the same thing of the comics(with Jean dying). Why would we want the same damn thing? We might as well just pop the comic and forget about going to the theatre.

You suck. **** off

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

well, seriously, X2 was Kinda too original, but it was great, due to how it was filmed...

However, X3 replacing Cyc with Wolves including many pose and speech... That was something nie

However, causes hate for wolvie

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Good for them! Making it exaclty like the comics would be boring as Hell. Heck maybe they should have avoided any type of stories related to these characters if fans are going to react that way. Maybe FOX should have never use Jean as Phoenix. The producers of Superman, Batman Begins and the spider-Man films were smart to not tie anything to stories from the comics so they don`t have to suffer the whine of hundreds of fans.

Bad examples troll. Superman, Batman Begins, and Spider-Man were and are far more faithful to their source material than X3 is. Nice try though.

Spider-Man, Batman Begins, and Superman had some changes, however none of which deviated from the material or alienated their fanbase to the point of absolute disgust.

 

[triplefive]

Not much point arguing with trolls, guys. Rationality isn't their strong suit.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

And this is where the guy shoots himself in the foot. If the audience never read the comics as lots of people like to point out, then they have nothing to be bored about since they never saw any of these stories before!!!

But that is no excuse to not stay true to concepts established in the source material. Alot of people saw LOTR who never read it before, and same with Spiderman, but the people who created those films certainly respected the source material and presented storylines that not only were more faithful to the source material and to those familiar, but stories where were certainly not boring to the newcomers either.

If it worked for LOTR and Spiderman, it can certainly work here. There is no excuse. None. Just like there is no excuse for bad writing.

Don't forget Batman Begins, Sin City, and V For Vendetta too. All of those were faithful comic book/graphic novel adaptations, and all did fairly well in the box office and are critically acclaimed.

The troll is just talking out of his ass and is probably a worker for Tom Rothman as well.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

Supes and Bat are DC, and the director started at comics... However Bryan went off track as he did X2, so when Brett picked it up... He faced the trouble....



Bryan is to blame

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

V For Vendetta was seriously a good movie ^_^

 

[Hulkster]

There is a Scott Summers Music Video (including clips of disturbing behavior)

http://community.livejournal.com/cyclops_fans/

You can find it with the title:Au Cyclops vid

Nice music vid.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

Nice ^_^

 

[Vilya]

On paper.

Great drawing!!! Do you do this on the computer or on paper?

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

what on paper?

 

[Vilya]

A few pages back, posted a drawing.

 

[AznBABYBANDIT]

oh thx gonna have a look