Official Justice League Status Update Thread

[Showtime]

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It states that the original (story) theme has changed. Wether it means the original as in "previous script" or original as in the comics.

The Justice League Killer is right.

 

[dnno1]

The food and beverage market is not the same as characters on film. This is why the examples Maze laid out previously that actually had to do with film were few and far between. You can throw around marketing terms and post pictures of cookies all you want, but it isn't the same.

The product may not the same but the concept is. Product Diversification is irrespective of an industry or a product. Batman is a brand just like Oreos, and it should be exploited and diversified when it is successful.

Just like the comcis leverage Batman's success by diversifying the brand with various titles, the same can be done in the film franchise and this would be consistent with the source material.

Also, how is having two versions of Batman on screen at the same time even close to the same as Marvel announcing the launch of different heroes based on the success of Iron Man. By that token, WB should do exactly what you are arguing against, announce other solo films before doing a Justice League. You're killing your own argument.

Technically they wouldn't be at the same time since the release dates will more than likely be in different years. This has been done before (I have proven as much) and it didn't confuse anyone or hurt any franchises. Leveraging Batman's (as well as Superman's) success by exploiting him in other films is the best thing for Batman as well as the other start up franchises.

 

[Showtime]

The product may not the same but the concept is. Product Diversification does is irrespective of an industry or a product. Batman is a brand just like Oreos, and it should be exploited and diversified when it is successful.

It should be, and is, in all different mediums. Comics, Film, Merchandising, Animated Features & Television...so on and so forth. That doesn't mean that WB has to come out with eleventeen versions of Batman on film because one is a juggernaut.

Just like the comcis leverage Batman's success by diversifying the brand with various titles, the same can be done in the film franchise and this would be consistent with the source material.

Anything can be done, it doesn't mean it should or will.

Technically they wouldn't be at the same time since the release dates will more than likely be in different years. This has been done before (I have proven as much) and it didn't confuse anyone or hurt any franchises. Leveraging Batman's (as well as Superman's) success by exploiting him in other films is the best thing for Batman as well as the other start up franchises.

Tarzan and Bond...yeah...

It is the your opinion that exploiting them in multiple films is the best thing, doesn't mean it is WB's...any more.

It isn't that I don't understand your theory, it's just that I don't agree with it nor do I thinK WB does at this point in time.

 

[dnno1]

It should be, and is, in all different mediums. Comics, Film, Merchandising, Animated Features & Television...so on and so forth. That doesn't mean that WB has to come out with eleventeen versions of Batman on film because one is a juggernaut.

If they want to please the share holders it would be in their best interest to do that. It would be kind of foolish not to.

Anything can be done, it doesn't mean it should or will.

I don't see a good reason why it shouldn't. It also works the other way in that you can give a weaker brand a chance to survive in another franchise which is what I suspect Marvel will be doing with the Hulk in the future.

Tarzan and Bond...yeah...

It is the your opinion that exploiting them in multiple films is the best thing, doesn't mean it is WB's...any more.

It isn't that I don't understand your theory, it's just that I don't agree with it nor do I thinK WB does at this point in time.

It's based on fact. They have already diversified the brand in other mediums and featuring Batman in the Justice League (among other films) is doing the same thing. It not only finds another niche for the brand but it helps promote other brands as well by exposing Batman fans to other characters. Marvel is already doing it so why not WB?

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

It's very simple. Do you really think WB is going to risk ****ing up their relationship with Nolan at this point?

I don't care what was said publicly in the past, Nolan (along with the likes of Bale and Charles Roven and the Superman team...among others) was 100% against Justice League from the start. I think some are downplaying how much of a major factor Nolan and the Batman team were in killing JLA at the beginning of 2008.

And now his Batman Begins sequel has exceeded damn-near every expectation by grossing well over $400 million domestic in a little over 3 weeks(!) Add to the fact that he is now a free-agent and can do whatever he wants, where-ever he wants.

There is no way WB is going to want to get on Nolan's bad-side after The Dark Knight becomes the 2nd highest-grossing film of all-time. The studio absolutely wants to keep him there and they badly want Batman III under his direction.

Justice League isn't happening.

 

[Showtime]

If they want to please the share holders it would be in their best interest to do that. It would be kind of foolish not to.

It's in WB's best interest to come out with eleventeen different versions of Batman, after Nolans version becomes the 2nd highest grossing movie of all time domestically, which will please their shareholders.

I don't see a good reason why it shouldn't. It also works the other way in that you can give a weaker brand a chance to survive in another franchise which is what I suspect Marvel will be doing with the Hulk in the future.

I see a good reason why it shouldn't, Dark Knight. Now, so does WB.

It's based on fact. They have already diversified the brand in other mediums and featuring Batman in the Justice League (among other films) is doing the same thing. It not only finds another niche for the brand but it helps promote other brands as well by exposing Batman fans to other characters. Marvel is already doing it so why not WB?

Marvel is doing it by coming out with solo films first leading up to Avengers...I don't understand why you continue to devalue your stance by bringing up the point you are disagreeing with. The only fact right now is Dark Knight is going to be the highest grossing comicbook film of all time.

 

[Evil Twin]

Marvel is doing it by coming out with solo films first leading up to Avengers...I don't understand why you continue to devalue your stance by bringing up the point you are disagreeing with. The only fact right now is Dark Knight is going to be the highest grossing comicbook film of all time.

One thing we also don't know is whether Marvel's plan will succeed or not. Plenty of movie plans have fallen apart, stalled, been delayed, etc. over the years. For example, what happens if Thor flops? Or Downey Jr. falls off the wagon? It's possible that Marvel's plan may prove to be too ambitious and the easiest way to make a team movie is simply to make a team movie.

 

[Showtime]

One thing we also don't know is whether Marvel's plan will succeed or not. Plenty of movie plans have fallen apart, stalled, been delayed, etc. over the years. For example, what happens if Thor flops? Or Downey Jr. falls off the wagon? It's possible that Marvel's plan may prove to be too ambitious and the easiest way to make a team movie is simply to make a team movie.

I think you're faced with the same situation though, you're going to recast Iron Man with another actor, instead of Downey? Seems just as ridiculous to me, when he just nailed the role.

It's just as possible that making a team up with B list actors would fail as well ie Justice League, that plan isn't tested either.

 

[TheVileOne]

Wouldn't a Nolan sequel please shareholders a lot more than JL? Considering the current Nolan movie is the biggest movie of the year, and on its way to being the second biggest of all time?

 

[The Major]

It's just as possible that making a team up with B list actors would fail as well ie Justice League, that plan isn't tested either.

The JL film isn't filled with B-listers. They have Brody and Common but that's it. The rest are C to D-listers and their WW who wasn't even in their industry until someone approached to do it.

A team of B-listers would be an improvement.

 

[Showtime]

The JL film isn't filled with B-listers. They have Brody and Common but that's it. The rest are C to D-listers and their WW who wasn't even in their industry until someone approached to do it.

A team of B-listers would be an improvement.

You're saying Common and Brody are B-Listers right? I hope.

I liked Common and Broddy actually, and to tell you the truth, Arnie Hammer grew on me.

 

[Showtime]

Wouldn't a Nolan sequel please shareholders a lot more than JL? Considering the current Nolan movie is the biggest movie of the year, and on its way to being the second biggest of all time?

No Vile, they have to make Justice League. They just have to.

 

[bunk]

You're saying Common and Brody are B-Listers right? I hope.

I liked Common and Broddy actually, and to tell you the truth, Arnie Hammer grew on me.

Tell him to knock it off then. Isn't he already like 8 feet tall?

 

[The Major]

You're saying Common and Brody are B-Listers right? I hope.

Yeah.

I liked Common and Broddy actually, and to tell you the truth,

Same here.

Arnie Hammer grew on me.

Have you seen him in anything?

 

[Showtime]

Tell him to knock it off then. Isn't he already like 8 feet tall?

HA! Good one.

Have you seen him in anything?

No I meant his look. I honestly think he could pull off Supes or Bats. No clue about his acting ability, therefore I can judge it either way.

 

[darthhalen]

Wow, people have really grabbed on to this quote by miller. It even got me paying attention again. Personally I REALLY still want a JLA movie sooner rather than later and feel the group picture before solo movies is the best way to go. HOWEVER, there is no way that Batman is recast for this film until a third Nolan film is out. Come now, let's be serious. If we think about it logically NO WAY does WB mess with Batman now.
So how serious is WB about getting a JLA movie out? I still feel they are very serious, but will have to make major changes. Personally I think replacing Bats with Green Arrow in the first JLA movie and BEGGING Nolan and Bale to do a cameo as Batman with a scene between Supes and WW might work.
Unfortunately, WB will not win either way. If they recast Batman scores of fans will go ape****. On the other hand NOT having Batman in a JLA movie will cause mass hysteria. I'm a life long fan of comics and would personally not care if Batman were not in the first movie. Wait until Nolans trilogy is over and use him in a JLA sequel. Fans ***** about waiting years for a JLA movie, can they not wait a few years for Batman in JLA as well?

 

[jmc]

There's nothing wrong with waiting a few years to get a JL film, the characters aren't going anywhere, but DC fans are just impatient.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

Wouldn't a Nolan sequel please shareholders a lot more than JL? Considering the current Nolan movie is the biggest movie of the year, and on its way to being the second biggest of all time?

Sure, a Nolan sequel would please the shareholders. Can he do one every year for the next decade? Because at Warners they're out of harry Potter books and need new successful franchises.

 

[Showtime]

No JMC, it has to be done.

 

[The Major]

Fans ***** about waiting years for a JLA movie, can they not wait a few years for Batman in JLA as well?

They should just focus on the solo films until Nolan's off Batman then do JL. They don't need to connect them to JL.

Justice League's always going to be around. It can't wait.

They need to sort out Superman, too. If they can't use Batman he's just a big a draw on his own. He suits JL more then Batman, as well.

 

[Showtime]

Sure, a Nolan sequel would please the shareholders. Can he do one avery year for the next decade? Because at Warners they're out of harry Potter books and need new successful franchises.

WB doesn't need an abundance of comic book properties for tentpole films, they have other options. That is why they bought up about ten or so book properties in the past couple years. They are looking for their next Harry Potter there.

 

[bunk]

I'm actually really surprised they aren't going after Teen Titans first and foremost. Seems like more of a typical choice for a studio.

 

[Showtime]

I'm actually really surprised they aren't going after Teen Titans first and foremost. Seems like more of a typical choice for a studio.

Scripting.

 

[Dark Knight]

I'm actually really surprised they aren't going after Teen Titans first and foremost. Seems like more of a typical choice for a studio.

When it comes to Teen Titans the way to go with that property is doing a MOCAP or CGI film.

 

[GreenKToo]

*IF* they could talk Nolan and Bale into doing a cameo in J.L., kool.
If not, then so be it.
Truth is, I'm kinda doubting we get anything other than Bat films for a while yet. We'll see.