The Force Awakens *OFFICIAL* Star Wars: The Force Awakens merchandise thread

[Grievous]

Umm no this is my actual full quote
"I'm not saying this proves she is in The Force Awakens. But if there is a way someone can prove she got more votes than someone on the list, I see no other explanation other than she is in the movie."

I'll admit I didn't add the "unless Hasbro made a mistake or just refused for whatever reason" but I did mention it in another post before this one. Notice how I said I'm not saying this proves she is in the force awakens, and when I said I see no other explanation that was me stating an opinion not claiming to have proven she is in the movie as you are saying I did.
So please use my entire post in it's full context before you start cherry picking what I say to make it look like you came out on top.

Lastly that quote about using surprises and not just using the same EU stories is nothing I didn't already know. Saying your not gonna use the story told in the post ROTJ EU doesn't mean using a character from it in an entirely new plot is off the table. So once again this doesn't change anything. Honesty I just wanted to share the news about this contest and talk about how Mara not making the list is surprising some people and they are running with it since the contest said no TFA characters. I'm not even a huge Mara fan and don't care either way if she is in the movie or not, this isn't the thread for getting into debates like this so let's just drop it.

 

[Apollo]

Just thought I'd mention that Hasbro is doing a fan's choice for the next figure to be in the 6 inch line with the winner being announced at Comic-Con. They took suggestions from various sites and put the top 7 choices in a poll. So far it looks like Darth Revan will be the winner. A lot of people are voting for him also to show that the EU should not be ignored because of Legend status. Some people are suspicious that Mara Jade did not make the list because she got several votes on different sites. Since there was a rule that no The Force Awakens characters could be voted for I can see why some might raise eyebrows.

Awsome! I voted Revan. If Mara Jade was on the list I would vote for her. It is a shame she is not on the list though. But I agree with you it does raise eyebrows. I hope she makes a future apprence either in the movie or future books. t:

 

[jonathancrane]

Mara is not going to be in this new continuity. If she appears in the FA, I will eat my workboots.

 

[Solidus]

Mara is not going to be in this new continuity. If she appears in the FA, I will eat my workboots.

No she won't. Some just want to believe that characters from the EU will pop up to give more validation to them since they have been ejected from the canon. I knew that some would not be able to fully let go and just cling to that hope. They won't.

The thing is Disney said that they will pull "elements" from the EU which was a specifically chosen word. Abstract ideas, and characteristics may be pulled in some future mediums. But not direct characters or story lines. Even with great ones like KOTOR they would never just "re-hash" the story.

Again every single thing Disney has put out shows more of this. None of the EU characters have been pulled. Maybe in the far future some small character that is very removed from the main trio (Han Luke and Leia) could be. But the reason I hesitate saying that is with some of these people that want the EU back in canon, you can give them an inch and they will run a mile with it and start screaming it's proof that Mara Jade is in the film somehow.

This reminds me of the days of The Dark Knight production. When the blonde girl was cast (the one that sits next to Maroni in the club where Batman takes down his thugs) a group of people somehow believed that there was irrefutable evidence that she was playing Harley Quinn. Of course it was farthest from the truth. Yet some still claimed it may of been her. When it just clearly was not. Some just want something so bad they don't care about anything else.

Sadly some will see a red headed girl in the background of a bar or something in TFA and a small few will swear somehow it's Mara.

Also, it is so clear these stories are very different from the EU post Jedi ideas. Would those that love certain EU characters want to see them butchered to fit a new story that is clearly be told? No. It would make it even worse.

Disney is staying away from anything like that. Kind of like how many of us on here kept telling a certain few individuals that the EU would be ejected since late 2012, yet they did not want to believe it. They are staying away from these old EU characters and creating new. From all the characters we know in TFA, that is clearly the case that and the press release, Simon Kingberg said so as well as everything Disney has released shows all characters are new. But sadly some will still ignore all we know and go with just pure desire and hope.

 

[Apollo]

It's kinda a given why they don't want people voting for The Force Awakens characters, they are gonna be making characters left and right from that movie so they don't want people wasting votes on them. The only way Mara Jade has nothing to do with this is if she didn't get enough votes to make the list and I just find that hard to believe.
The list is
Darth Revan
Sabine
Ben Kenobi
Lando
Snowtrooper
Gamorrean Guard
General Grievous
I remember seeing a lot of Revan votes and some Sabine and Ben ones. One site had a lot of Grievous votes so I can see why he made it. (Faith in fan-base restored t: ) but it just seems like I saw a lot of Mara support. I'm not saying this proves she is in The Force Awakens. But if there is a way someone can prove she got more votes than someone on the list, I see no other explanation other than she is in the movie.

Ventress got some votes but I don't think she got as much as Mara.

Gamorren Guard over Mara Jade??? What the Hell!? I saw the Mara Jade Votes. Don't remember any Gamorren Guard ones though....

Anyways, I'd absolutely love to see more Star Wars Expanded Universe Black Series figures. So many to choose from too! So much money to throw at them.

 

[Grievous]

Gamorren Guard over Mara Jade??? What the Hell!? I saw the Mara Jade Votes. Don't remember any Gamorren Guard ones though....

Anyways, I'd absolutely love to see more Star Wars Expanded Universe Black Series figures. So many to choose from too! So much money to throw at them.

Yeah Gamorren Guard and Snowtrooper over Mara just seems weird, you would think with Hasbro saying the winner gets made into a figure Mara would be right in there. I mean Snowtrooper has a better chance of happening then Mara so why vote for characters that will likely end up happening anyway? There is 3 possibilities that I see possible.
1. She just didn't get enough votes plan and simple.
2. There was a mistake in tallying the votes.
3. She is in TFA as an entirely new take on her character that is different from the EU so they didn't want to make a figure of her and cause confusion.

But apparently if you even consider the last one possible your someone who can't accept no for an answer and will be spreading crazy theories about how this means this once the movie comes out.

As I said I don't care either way if she is in the movie or not, I want new content not the old EU stories converted to the big screen. That would make no sense because everyone would basically know what happens and there would be no surprises. But I'm not so closed minded that I rule out the possibility of taking a character from the EU and doing it differently to make it new and exciting while still calling that character by name. If Mara showed up in TFA as an entirely different character with a different past and etc but still red headed and named Mara Jade. I wouldn't consider it lying on Disney's part about using new characters, I would call it reinventing the character.

If Hasbro said we just would like to announce that Mara Jade did not get enough votes to make the list and this has nothing to do with TFA. I would say case closed and move on. I'm not an EU fan who is grasping at straws for a way to bring EU characters into the new movies. I just thought her not making the list was surprising given her popularity and wondered if it meant anything. I don't care about the survival of the EU, I was just generally curious.

 

[Solidus]

Yeah Gamorren Guard and Snowtrooper over Mara just seems weird, you would think with Hasbro saying the winner gets made into a figure Mara would be right in there. I mean Snowtrooper has a better chance of happening then Mara so why vote for characters that will likely end up happening anyway? There is 3 possibilities that I see possible.
1. She just didn't get enough votes plan and simple.
2. There was a mistake in tallying the votes.
3. She is in TFA as an entirely new take on her character that is different from the EU so they didn't want to make a figure of her and cause confusion.

But apparently if you even consider the last one possible your someone who can't accept no for an answer and will be spreading crazy theories about how this means this once the movie comes out.

As I said I don't care either way if she is in the movie or not, I want new content not the old EU stories converted to the big screen. That would make no sense because everyone would basically know what happens and there would be no surprises. But I'm not so closed minded that I rule out the possibility of taking a character from the EU and doing it differently to make it new and exciting while still calling that character by name. If Mara showed up in TFA as an entirely different character with a different past and etc but still red headed and named Mara Jade. I wouldn't consider it lying on Disney's part about using new characters, I would call it reinventing the character.

If Hasbro said we just would like to announce that Mara Jade did not get enough votes to make the list and this has nothing to do with TFA. I would say case closed and move on. I'm not an EU fan who is grasping at straws for a way to bring EU characters into the new movies. I just thought her not making the list was surprising given her popularity and wondered if it meant anything. I don't care about the survival of the EU, I was just generally curious.

You can think what you want. My point is, we know the basics of the plot. And she's not in it. Even still, Disney has said they are making a whole new story going forward.

However, why would you create a whole new character....and just name it the same name of an old character. That would be a disgrace to the character from the EU as well. What would it serve? Other than making a small percentage of fans smile? What would it do. Why would you put so much effort in creating a new character and then go....let's name her Mara Jade because. Also that may anger some of the EU fans of her, because then it's not the same character at all, just a superficial name attached.

Also you say in your third point that they don't want to "confuse" people. It would be even more confusing if you created a whole new character and story and used the same name from the EU. Because then you would have people reading the EU novels and going..."Wait...what? Why is Mara married to Luke now? I thought in the movie she died." Just using the last part as a made up example of something they would do with her in the film.

So why add extra confusion? If you are creating a new character, and new story, they will just make a new name. Which is the easiest part to do.

It's just everything we have, everything we know, everything Disney has given us, they have not re-introduced any of the main characters from Legends. And they won't with characters like Mara Jade that have such heavy ties to the original trio in the Legend's story lines.

You can believe it all you want. I can't stop you from doing that. That's fine if you want to have hope for it I guess. It's just I've been soaking up every single thing from TFA. And there is not even a hint of something like Mara at all. From the dozens of concept pieces, to the leaked screenshots, to the leaked call sheets of the entire film, to the casting. There is nothing like that.

 

[Grievous]

I don't hope for her I'm indifferent if she is in the movie or not.

It would cause some confusion but if she did appear in the TFA she would have to be different. Her character couldn't be like the one in the EU because the movie isn't like the EU. Luke in this movie isn't going to be exactly like the Luke from the EU books. Yes there would be people complaining saying I don't like the new Mara, she was better in the EU. But they could keep some of her traits and personality that made her what she is, while also making her different. Upset EU fans would either accept that it was the only option besides her not existing period, because the plots from the old EU stories are not going to happen.

 

[Solidus]

What's the difference between using old plot points and old characters? Characters are tied heavily to the plots. Just rehashing them would be lame. The amount of EU fans that can't let go are not as vast as some want to believe.

They will accept the new characters and new canon if they like SW and want to see new stories/characters. Or they can just continue to read the Legend books.

Saying the "old plots" are not going to happen is true. Just as it is true the same "old characters tied to those plots" are not going to happen either. Why just use the same name? It would be lazy and insulting to both characters. There may be some characters (not Mara she won't be in it from what we do know about Luke in TFA) that have mixed in with some characters. But they won't again use the same name for confusion. Also again...why? A name is extremely superficial. That would be no way to honor an EU character even if they decided to do that (which they are not.) But still it would be confusing. Not because of characteristics because of names...and again that is the easiest thing in the world to change. They won't use these big EU characters, nor their names.

 

[Grievous]

The difference is that it isn't so much the plots that will be missed but the characters. i don't know how many people would be open to changing Mara if it meant her existing at least. But I'm sure some would say it's better than nothing.

I would rather get new characters, I'll take Kylo Ren over Mara Jade. My argument wasn't so much that I hope it happens but that it could happen.

Also I didnt mean make a new character and call her Mara Jade, a blonde called Mara would be dumb. It would be Mara Jade as close to being herself as possible without making the plot seem like a rehash of an EU story.

Look if Mara isn't in TFA then she just didn't get enough votes to get a figure made.
If she is in TFA which explains her absence on the poll then it will likely be a small role at that and more of fan service to EU people.

I'm fine with either outcome and don't see how either one would mean the end of the world.

 

[Apollo]

BB-8 at ToyCon 2015!
https://***********/pinoy501st/status/611550921684832257/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH-ZfHPWoAAl976.jpg

 

[Apollo]

Retail $150? Made by a company named Sphero

https://***********/BB8awakens/status/618077584782327808/photo/1

Here is a picture to show how big it is compared to a person

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

BB-8 at ToyCon 2015!
https://***********/pinoy501st/status/611550921684832257/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH-ZfHPWoAAl976.jpg

It's fake.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

What do you mean fake?

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

What do you mean fake?

http://www.starwars7news.com/2015/07/bb-8-sphero-toy-shown-at-toycon.html

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Thank you.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Thank you.

You are most welcome.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

COMING SOON TO YOUR PERSONAL JEDI ARCHIVES: JOURNEY TO STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS – SNEAK PEEK!

http://www.starwars.com/news/coming...ney-to-star-wars-the-force-awakens-sneak-peek

Star Wars: Look and Find (Phoenix International Publication, Inc.)

Travel across the galaxy and explore scenes from the Star Wars saga. Search for more than 100 Star Wars find ‘ems, and includes Look and Find scenes and aliens from Star Wars: The Force Awakens.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I am totally buying that. Also, we now know where Rey is in the trailer, when she is sitting at that table.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

 

[Apollo]

It's fake.

Sphero is making a BB-8 toy though. They have a tease on their official website -> http://www.sphero.com/starwars/

But I guess this other one was a fan made?

 

[Apollo]

I am thinking it's going to be small like their other toys. Like the size of a tennis ball. But if they make a large version that would be pretty great.. though expensive I am sure

 

[Apollo]

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Cant wait!

 

[Apollo]

By the way Revan won the fan choice contest! A fan favorite from the Star Wars Expanded Universe! It was announced today at SDCC

Which was pretty much a given since he had over 40% of the vote.

So we will see his 6 inch black series figure soon. t: