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Discussion in 'Misc. Films' started by Thread Manager, Oct 2, 2012.
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Erm, nevermind. How about that Hobbit?
I like how one small mention of Kili "pursuing Tauriel" gets turned into some super-critical romantic plot thread that will clearly dominate all three movies and 'undermine' everything that happened between Legolas and Gimli.
Only on the internet will something like that get blown so out of proportion. In that same quote he says she's 20 ft tall and he's only 2. Why aren't we taking *that* quote so seriously? "ZOMG 20 foot elves! I read it in a magazine!"
There isn't even any mention of how Tauriel reciprocates. For all we know he spends the entire thing flirting while she barely notices.
He kind of reminds me of Pippin in that poster!
If its him flirting and her ignoring it runs the risk of being comic relief which is equally bad and still raises the issue that a dwarf wouldnt flirt with an elf. That is what it keeps going back to. There is no reason for one of these dwarves to flirt or act cordially towards the elves especially the mirkwood elves.
Which is why I said this:
I know, just forget it. I tried to tell them that, but people see what they want to see. The real treat is that Kili isn't going to be her true love interest. It's going to be the Orc, Sarntra, that's going to be turning the heads.
And if believe that, I got an ocean front property for sale in Arizona!
We can take it with a grain of salt while still saying how stupid it would be if it is true. Or is there a moratorium on critical speculation that I didn't know about?
Its the hype. Its not unlike the dark ages when critical thought would get you roasted on a spit.
I've heard that this poster isn't new, but it's new to me, and I love it!
I like how the eagle (Gwaihir?) has a blue beak.
That's new to me as well. Pretty sweet.
Me gusta! I totally want to see El Hobbit.
As far a Tauriel and Kili being Arogorn/Arwen 2.0, I doubt it would go that far on a level of romance, it's just not possible, as many have pointed out, it goes counter to the established canon.
Maybe it's more similar to Gimli - Galadriel, as in; he is smitten by her beauty as Elves are known to have this affect across the board to all races.
Maybe despite their differences he fights in her honor, to prove that he is worthy, etc.
Although there are obvious and well developed character differences between the Dwarves, they really do have to develop some more uniquely individual through-stories and motives, to give them all compelling story-arcs where they change or grow from begging to end, otherwise why care about the character.
As far is it mimicking or taking away from the later Gimli - Galadriel momment, maybe a little, but just look at it as foreshadowing it, it establishes that it could happen. And if he is in fact seen, as per Dwarf culture as the "ugly" one, (contrary to us where he's the pretty one), then maybe he seeks empathy elsewhere, outside his circle. And finds it in her, someone who judges him on a different capacity, like loyalty.
Like so much else, they may have pulled it out of nowhere, but for a movie they may have to give the Dwarves more uniquely individual story-arcs. And that's not so bad.
Wasn't it Gwaihir that picked up Gandalf in FOTR? And in the film that eagle didn't have a blue beak that I recall...
Eh. It'd be a minor continuity error. No big deal, especially since this design is much more distinctive.
It would be a convenient way to tell him apart from the others...
Phantasm, to answer your question...both.
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The White Council poster is amazing.
If Kili was to make overtures to Tauriel which she was to rebuff or fail to notice for comic effect, then
a) She would seem like a beech.
b) There would be no reason to make Kili look compatibly hot/feminine anyway.
Actually, it would. A hairy, blocky, deformed (by elven and human standards) man making romantic overtures to an attractive woman would be considered a turnoff, maybe even frightening, especially to women in the audience (especially anyone who's seen the Leprechaun movies ).
A tiny man who looks like a young Brad Pitt, and the chicas will be like all "awww, come on, give him a little something something."
That just exacerbates (a).