Official Young Avengers Discussion Thread - Part 1

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  1. Hawkingbird

    Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop

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    I read Young Avengers 1 yesterday. On the whole I loved it, and the art work was great. What I didn't like is the way they just made the gay relationship the center of the story. I don't care what their sexual orientation is, I just want a good story, not a soppy romance :') I also think the Mum wasn't being unreasonable for being against her 17 year old son living with his boyfriend. My parents certainly would be against me moving in with a guy! Apart from that, very good :)
     
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  2. spideyboy_1111

    spideyboy_1111 Young Avenger

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    .... the mom was an evil alien, and WAS DEAD prior. lol it's not like hulkling had much of a choice of where he could go..

    and psh.. there's alot of readers who just read the book for the "gay" relationship...
     
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  3. JewishHobbit

    JewishHobbit Well-Known Member

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    I think Billy's parents' reaction to what Teddy's "Mom" said was a bit rediculous also (prior to her going all alien nuts or whatever). Personally, if I found out my daughter was living with her boyfriend at that age I'd be pretty upset as well. Billy's parents' sudden accusations of homophobia (without so many words) was pretty annoying to me as a reader.

    And correct me if I'm wrong but aren't skrulls uni-gender unless they decide to not be? I really don't see homosexuality being a big deal where they're from.
     
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  4. spideyboy_1111

    spideyboy_1111 Young Avenger

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    Homosexuality isn't. But i also don't think the situation is bad... Yeah they're 17 but teddy lost his family (if Im not mistaken even the tv show 7th heaven did this) closest family teddy had was billy's . They also have separate rooms. Hell Rosanne also took in Darlene's boyfriend David when his mother was unfit...

    The skrull momma overreacted
     
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  5. spideyboy_1111

    spideyboy_1111 Young Avenger

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    Also.... Why do skrulls who are aliens that don't care about gender or the color of skin suddenly care about the rules of American ages conformity? Most of the world doest even follow the 18=adult rules why the hell would space aliens?

    I think it was nothing more than a ruse to suck there brains out or whatever she was doing
     
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  6. squeekness

    squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    I was under the impression she was acting all wild because she wasn't herself, like bringing her out of time like that made her insane. :( I don't think she would have acted that way in a normal world. Just my thoughts....
     
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  7. spideyboy_1111

    spideyboy_1111 Young Avenger

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    agrees
     
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  8. JewishHobbit

    JewishHobbit Well-Known Member

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    The way I see it, his mother raised him on Earth, as an earthling, since he was a baby. She likely adopted the American lifestyle and I could easily see her wanting to return to that upon her return. So her mentioning the boys not living together was reasonable to me.

    As I said before, Billy's parents immediately jumped on the homophobe accusations and that annoyed the crap out of me. The woman gave no indication of homophobia, just two underaged teens living together. I can't stand it when someone overracts like that. It's the same when someone shouts racist or sexist.
     
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  9. spideyboy_1111

    spideyboy_1111 Young Avenger

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    meh, i don't by it. she had an alterior motive the whole time
     
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  10. JewishHobbit

    JewishHobbit Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, maybe, but that wasn't the argument. And the fault had nothing to do with her and everything to do with Billy's parents in my opinion.
     
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  11. spideyboy_1111

    spideyboy_1111 Young Avenger

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    i think it's valid personally. but to each there own. It's a bit ridiculous imo for someone to be pissed there orphan son had a family welcome him in
     
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  12. JewishHobbit

    JewishHobbit Well-Known Member

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    That part didn't bother me. To me she came accross more along the lines of now that she's back, let's fix it. I see nothing wrong with that.

    And how could Billy's parents' reactions be valid? She was talking about their ages and living together. They immediately accused her of being a bad mother and aluded to her being homophobic. There was no connection between her earlier statements and their reaction. It just read as odd and forced to me.

    But as you said, to each their own.
     
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  13. Mad Ones

    Mad Ones Bebe le Strange

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    Maybe they expected her to be more grateful and understanding of the situation they were in, instead of her being accusatory and aggressive. But she was EVIL, so it doesn't matter.
     
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  14. Hawkingbird

    Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop

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    Yeah I empathized with her up until she sucked their faces off :hehe:
     
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  15. JewishHobbit

    JewishHobbit Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, that kinda sucked.
     
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  16. CConn

    CConn Fountainhead of culture.

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    I liked it, but I felt like the pacing on the book was pretty terrible. He did spend too much type on the romance (I'm sorry, but comics shouldn't be Harlequin novels, spideyboy), it didn't feel like enough of the YA were featured, and everything didn't quite tie itself together as cohesively as I would've liked.

    I mean, I still have high hopes for the series - the storylines and character arcs presented seem really good - but for a FIRST issue, it was pretty lackluster.
     
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  17. squeekness

    squeekness The mighty squeek!

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    Yup. It surely didn't have the pop that the new Thor and All New X-men had. :(
     
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  18. Hawkingbird

    Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop

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    I wish they were longer :( I'm used to the CEs, which are 70-100 pages.
     
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  19. TheCorpulent1

    TheCorpulent1 SHAZAM!

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    Is everyone assuming the woman at the end of #1 is actually Teddy's mom? People are commenting on her behavior like it's a given she's the real thing. Personally, when I saw her go into creepy melty-flesh mode, I assumed she was probably some evil version from an alternate universe and Billy just snatched her up without considering she may not have been the version of Teddy's mom he actually wanted. He even says in the issue that he wasn't really thinking of saving Teddy's mom, he just saw her and acted.
     
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  20. JewishHobbit

    JewishHobbit Well-Known Member

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    I agree with that.
     
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  21. Hawkingbird

    Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop

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    Yeah, I doubt it's actually his mum.
     
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  22. Colossal Spoons

    Colossal Spoons Paper boi

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    Well I really dug that first issue. So glad the series isn't being held hostage by Heinberg anymore :up:

    How old is Moh-Varr though. He looked like he was 30 during his time as The Protector. Now he looks 20 and is shacking up with Kate? Weird.
     
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  23. spideyboy_1111

    spideyboy_1111 Young Avenger

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    Noh-var is a teen or early 20s

    Use to be "marvel boy" up until protector
     
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  24. Hawkingbird

    Hawkingbird I want to be Kate Bishop

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    What happened to his original girlfriend?
     
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  25. Artistsean

    Artistsean Monkey Boy

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    I thought the issue was good, setting stuff up. Bringing in and introducing sort of each character. I will certainly keep getting it. The art was great too, and I love the Young Avengers so I am interested to see them back and where they take it. Maybe Protector will eventually join them.

    The thing between the parents would have become a normal discussion, it was about homophobia at all. It was one parent saying "I'm not happy he is in a relationship at all, Billy is too young for romance." And the other Parents saying "We are happy they found each other." It would have been the same argument if one was a girl. But the woman had ulterior motives the whole time.
    She is actually not his mother, in an earlier story, years ago, it was revealed that she was a Skrull hiding out as Billy's mother. She was placed there to keep an eye on him. But nothing more was said about her and her motives. He is actually the son of Captain Mar-Vell and the Skrull Princess Anelle. So That was not his real mother, but since she raised him like she was his mother and protected him, sacrificing her life to save him sort of, that everyone assumed she loved him like a mother and had no evil motives.
    But as it seems, she did. Probably like some sleeper cell, she is proceeding with one of the Skrull's evil plans.

    Whatever happened to Novar? He was on the Dark Avengers, apperently slept with Moonstone and then suddenly was gone. Then showed up in Avengers as the Protector and then I stopped reading so I don't know what happened to him there. But did they EVER explain what happened to him in Dark Avengers? The cover of the comic showed him on the run from the Symbiot, but they never showed anything. One issue he was sleeping with Moonstone, and the next he was gone and she said he ran off and she moved on to Bullseye. Anyone know what happened or where it was explained?
     
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