Comics Official YOUNG X-MEN Discussion Thread

[Havok83]

The artwork is horrible. I also hate the lineup. Seriously, Blindfold? They went and took out all the interesting characters. What a way to ruin a book. I wish New X-men was still going on with the current writers still doing it.

 

[OutcryX]

you love to complain about every possible thing dont u

 

[Valechan]

So I guess this means that Julian, Pixie, Anole, Surge, Nezhno, the Cuckoos, Prodigy, Trance, Match, Loa and Elixir will join the X-Men teams from what they said... anyone care to venture a guess as to who goes where? I think Pixie's going to Astonishing giving that recent cover and the fact the team is missing its carefree adolescent girl

 

[Havok83]

you love to complain about every possible thing dont u

no, just the stuff I dont like

 

[El Bastardo]

you love to complain about every possible thing dont u

Bingo, buddy.

 

[El Bastardo]

No dude, I could not be more firm on my dislike for the direction this book is taking.

I dislike Blindfold, Dust, and Wolfcub. Ink sounds pretty cool but they could have filled his spot with any of the other mutants in the mansion. And that other guy is new.

Paquette is horrible every day of the week

Those costumes are boring as hell.

If you could point out which parts of that are me resisting change, I'd much appreciate it.

Uh, each part that you've listed? I'm sorry, but it's resisting change. The line-up of New X-Men is not being carried over. The title has changed. Costumes have changed. Artist and writer have changed. RESISTANT TO CHANGE, YOU ARE.

I love you Spoons, but seriously.

Paquette's art is not awful, and really, it was oft-times the only stomachable part of Ultimate X-Men. Sometimes it's a little flimsy, and isn't as pretty to my eyes as Ramos is, but it's not exactly Bachalo-putty-figures. I'm just hoping it'll fit Guggenheim's writing, but Guggenheim is very good at making his writing fit the artist.

You have a dislike of characters, and that's fine, but how do you know Guggenheim is going to write them as Kyle/Yost did, and whoever wrote them before those two? New writer, new directions, new things to do. Consistant, yes, but new development. That's what I'm saying. I don't see how you can just write it off and hate it when you don't even know what his plans for the characters are.

Personally, I think Blindfold is a fun little enigma. Carey used her very well in Blinded by the Light. Dust is just fine, and given that she hasn't had a ton of screentime under Kyle/Yost, and when she has she's been the more-or-less generic quiet character, what's there to hate? And I don't even really know Wolfcub, so it'll be new for me.

I'm just saying. And you've been seeming to hate everything coming out of Messiah Complex, hence my resistant to change comment.

 

[Specter313]

So I guess this means that Julian, Pixie, Anole, Surge, Nezhno, the Cuckoos, Prodigy, Trance, Match, Loa and Elixir will join the X-Men teams from what they said... anyone care to venture a guess as to who goes where? I think Pixie's going to Astonishing giving that recent cover and the fact the team is missing its carefree adolescent girl

What cover? She was on a poster of random characters that Greg Land threw together. It meant nothing.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

So I guess this means that Julian, Pixie, Anole, Surge, Nezhno, the Cuckoos, Prodigy, Trance, Match, Loa and Elixir will join the X-Men teams from what they said... anyone care to venture a guess as to who goes where? I think Pixie's going to Astonishing giving that recent cover and the fact the team is missing its carefree adolescent girl

There's no space!

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Uh, each part that you've listed? I'm sorry, but it's resisting change. The line-up of New X-Men is not being carried over. The title has changed. Costumes have changed. Artist and writer have changed. RESISTANT TO CHANGE, YOU ARE.

I love you Spoons, but seriously.

Paquette's art is not awful, and really, it was oft-times the only stomachable part of Ultimate X-Men. Sometimes it's a little flimsy, and isn't as pretty to my eyes as Ramos is, but it's not exactly Bachalo-putty-figures. I'm just hoping it'll fit Guggenheim's writing, but Guggenheim is very good at making his writing fit the artist.

You have a dislike of characters, and that's fine, but how do you know Guggenheim is going to write them as Kyle/Yost did, and whoever wrote them before those two? New writer, new directions, new things to do. Consistant, yes, but new development. That's what I'm saying. I don't see how you can just write it off and hate it when you don't even know what his plans for the characters are.

Personally, I think Blindfold is a fun little enigma. Carey used her very well in Blinded by the Light. Dust is just fine, and given that she hasn't had a ton of screentime under Kyle/Yost, and when she has she's been the more-or-less generic quiet character, what's there to hate? And I don't even really know Wolfcub, so it'll be new for me.

I'm just saying. And you've been seeming to hate everything coming out of Messiah Complex, hence my resistant to change comment.

It sounds like if you don't eat up everything Marvel throws at you, you're resiting change. If that's your definition, then hell yeah I am.

I strongly disliked Paquette's art on UXM, that's 100% opinion. Unless he learned to draw differently, I'll hate it on this book too. I'd gladly welcome a change to a better artist

The characters on the team I dislike the most; Wolfcub and Blindfold were barely given a chance to develop really. But I find everything about them boring, down to their powers and their powers are pretty much set in stone. I've had enough of the feral characters and Blindfold belongs in the mansion predicting ****, not on the battle field. Again, I'd gladly welcome a change to better mutants

And I hate about 3 things to come out of MC:

1. Bishop's hand and costume

2. Almost everything about YXM

3. The premise behind X-Men: Legacy


I'm all for shake-ups, but only when they're good. Changing things for the sake of changing it is just dumb and I'll resist it every day of the week, even Sundays when I'm supposed to be resting

 

[TromaFreak64]

What a surprise. You hate just about everything that has any sort of change in it.

I think Young X-Men comes off as being fairly strong right now. While Guggenheim can go over the top - and that'll probably serve to Paquette's strengths, actually - he has an obvious respect for the franchise, and that's important. Not to mention that he writes some entertaining stuff.

Characters, eh. I suppose if you want to think of them as static things, you can pick a nice list of who you hate and who you don't. And then not read the books that have characters supposedly hated.

That said, characters are not static things. They are ever-changing and developing, hence the term, you know, character development.

I agree therefore I'll be picking this up and checking it out.

 

[Havok83]

The premise of the book seems redundant considering X-force was just formed. Why doesnt Cyclops send them after this new Brotherhood instead?

 

[Colossal Spoons]

This book feels like busywork to keep is occupied till a new book comes out with the kids we all love and care about and a good artist

 

[Valechan]

What cover? She was on a poster of random characters that Greg Land threw together. It meant nothing.

Cover poster, Iran Irak.... and wasn't it a bit too convenient that it was the astonishing cast with pixie on it??? That poster wasn't random...

 

[The Englishman]

The premise of the book seems redundant considering X-force was just formed. Why doesnt Cyclops send them after this new Brotherhood instead?

Because thats logical and marvel does'nt do logical.

 

[TromaFreak64]

i was wondering the same thing but figured there was something else do it.

 

[Specter313]

Cover poster, Iran Irak.... and wasn't it a bit too convenient that it was the astonishing cast with pixie on it??? That poster wasn't random...

Last I checked, Nightcrawler wasn't a part of the Astonishing cast.

 

[Havok83]

Last I checked, Nightcrawler wasn't a part of the Astonishing cast.

people were assuming he was joining much like Pixie bc of it

 

[Specter313]

It was an X-Men poster. For all we know, it could be the Uncanny cast, since pretty much all those characters except Pixie are appearing in that book post MC. People need to stop ASSuming things because you know what that makes them.

 

[mightiest_mortal]

It sounds like Cyclops is sending them on a joke mission so that theyl all get killed and he can make a new good team instead lol.
Its says in the solicit something about allies being enemies so its probably a skrull version of Cyclops theyl have to defeat, i dont think the actual Cyclops would be sending kids to kill people.

So I guess this means that Julian, Pixie, Anole, Surge, Nezhno, the Cuckoos, Prodigy, Trance, Match, Loa and Elixir will join the X-Men teams from what they said...

Thats what I was thinking. All of the more interesting + Popular characters have been left out of this book, so I'd imagine a lot will be ending up in the proper X-Teams.. which personally I think is a great move.

 

[El Bastardo]

The characters on the team I dislike the most; Wolfcub and Blindfold were barely given a chance to develop really. But I find everything about them boring, down to their powers and their powers are pretty much set in stone. I've had enough of the feral characters and Blindfold belongs in the mansion predicting ****, not on the battle field. Again, I'd gladly welcome a change to better mutants

Fair, fair. (Bet you didn't expect to read that, did you?)
Everything else, that is.

That? Fine, you dislike feral mutants. Judge them on the basis of their power, and not on the basis of their character. That's a good reader.

As for Blindfold? What you put forth is as stupid as people who were saying that Cyclops got no push or good characterization or whatever because he wasn't constantly on the battlefield.

Think about it. How much do we know about Blindfold's character? Not much. How much do we know about her power? Not a whole lot, other than what we've glimpsed. What do we know about the combination of these two things? Well, in "Blinded by the Light," she knew what was about to happen and was able to think quick enough to save her life and outsmart Exodus's Acolytes. Hum, that makes her more useful than a number of actual X-Men.

Quick enough to think on your feet? Why, I'd say that makes a valuable field member.

And Guggenheim doesn't strike me as the kind of person, like Kirkman seems to be, to have someone on his team just to suck up figurative air, as Storm did in Ultimate.

But no, she's blind, and her powers involve precog stuff, so therefore she's useless on the field and should just sit in a wheelchair and play at being Charlie X, right? You don't think it all through, that makes your stance prejudiced, and that makes it sad.

The premise of the book seems redundant considering X-force was just formed. Why doesnt Cyclops send them after this new Brotherhood instead?

Because X-Force is better suited to taking out threats more dangerous to the mutant population. Like the Purifiers, who're all about murdering all mutants and have the means to do so, and are freaking crazy.

Whereas mutant vs. mutant, aka "X-Men" vs. "Brotherhood," is a time-honored tradition.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Its says in the solicit something about allies being enemies so its probably a skrull version of Cyclops theyl have to defeat, i dont think the actual Cyclops would be sending kids to kill people.

Yea, I definitely dont think this is the actual Cyclops. If Cyke were to put a team together I feel he could get some bigger hitters than that. Rockslide would be good on a field team but the others wouldnt. And why are they creating more characters. Isnt this why they did HoM in the first place: too many mutants (at least in their opinion)

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Fair, fair. (Bet you didn't expect to read that, did you?)
Everything else, that is.

That? Fine, you dislike feral mutants. Judge them on the basis of their power, and not on the basis of their character. That's a good reader.

As for Blindfold? What you put forth is as stupid as people who were saying that Cyclops got no push or good characterization or whatever because he wasn't constantly on the battlefield.

Think about it. How much do we know about Blindfold's character? Not much. How much do we know about her power? Not a whole lot, other than what we've glimpsed. What do we know about the combination of these two things? Well, in "Blinded by the Light," she knew what was about to happen and was able to think quick enough to save her life and outsmart Exodus's Acolytes. Hum, that makes her more useful than a number of actual X-Men.

Quick enough to think on your feet? Why, I'd say that makes a valuable field member.

And Guggenheim doesn't strike me as the kind of person, like Kirkman seems to be, to have someone on his team just to suck up figurative air, as Storm did in Ultimate.

But no, she's blind, and her powers involve precog stuff, so therefore she's useless on the field and should just sit in a wheelchair and play at being Charlie X, right? You don't think it all through, that makes your stance prejudiced, and that makes it sad.

Guess I'm a bad reader then

 

[El Bastardo]

For shame.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I have no desire to get to know Wolfcub or Blindfold considering about a dozen NXMers I love had to get shunted out of the way to make space for them.

 

[Valechan]

Do you want to know why this book is going to be bad??? The writer himself says this is the "third" brotherhood, and it's brand new. I guess he just forgot about Toad's Brotherhood, Havok's Brotherhood and Exodus' Brotherhood... If he doesn't know there were more Brotherhoods than just Mags and Ravens... it's not a good sign for the book.