Comics Offiical PROFESSOR XAVIER discussion thread

[Snikt 6]

Okay, I am sure one of these has been done in the past - but this is the now. Professor X has been drug through the mud, kicked and drug back though the mud. I feel this is just sad. I loved the days when Prof X stood for good and all that feel good stuff - but we have all seen what the writers now-a-days have done to the bald one. Onslaught, crushing on Jean and Amelia Vought, Morrison gave him Nova (ugh) - Joss gave him Danger - even Bru has given him back his powers he gave him a secret that might be worse than all the others combined - a secret team that died on his watch.

I for one hope they can straighten this character out. I hope now that he has his telepathy back that they will give him a break and let him gain some respect back. I think that is the bottom line - he has lost the respect of his team. I see why Scott turned a cold sholder to him - but it would be nice to give the Prof a chance to gain that respect back.

What do you all think? It has been a very long time sense Professor Xavier has been treated like a hero - way to long for me.

 

[Havok83]

he has lost the respect of his team.

I think that should say he has lost the respect of Scott. He seems to be the hardest on Xavier and I dont see the animosity from the rest of the characters

 

[Snikt 6]

^Good point. I guess sense Scott was his most loyal X-Man, that hits the hardest.

 

[Harlekin]

Charles Xavier is a badass.

He's outlived his purpose though, and I think it might be time for him to finally die already and stay dead.

 

[Max J Power]

I never liked the "let's make Xavier out to be a shady character" sentiment that a lot of newer X-Men writers seem to find necessary.

 

[OutcryX]

Xavier should never, ever die. even if EVERY X-man in history dies, everything can be restarted with Xavier. HE is the lifeblood of the franchise.

 

[Snikt 6]

^Agreed. I hope those at MU see this also. Prof X is about an idea of peace...to bad that has been warped.

 

[Harlekin]

Xavier should never, ever die. even if EVERY X-man in history dies, everything can be restarted with Xavier. HE is the lifeblood of the franchise.

The X-Men were arguably never more popular than during the Claremont years, years in which Xavier was absent for most of those years. He is their inspiration, but to say he's essential? No, the dream has become a seperate entity.

 

[OutcryX]

The X-Men were arguably never more popular than during the Claremont years, years in which Xavier was absent for most of those years. He is their inspiration, but to say he's essential? No, the dream has become a seperate entity.

It is a dream that has lost focus and taken new shapes and forms. It isn't a popularity contest, it is about the goal, which started with Xavier and there has not been ONE X-man to step up to carry it on. Xavier IS essential because it is his dream that brought all the X-Men together in the first place. You cannot say, just because the sales of a book are high because he isnt around, then he isnt needed. A writer can come in tomorrow and make Charles the star player of THE most popular run in X-men history, again, its not about sales and popularity. its about this man and HIS dream.

 

[usagicassidy]

What's so great is that he has this dream, this "pure, peaceful" dream, yet can at times be still as manipulative or secretive as Magneto.

 

[Harlekin]

It is a dream that has lost focus and taken new shapes and forms. It isn't a popularity contest, it is about the goal, which started with Xavier and there has not been ONE X-man to step up to carry it on. Xavier IS essential because it is his dream that brought all the X-Men together in the first place. You cannot say, just because the sales of a book are high because he isnt around, then he isnt needed. A writer can come in tomorrow and make Charles the star player of THE most popular run in X-men history, again, its not about sales and popularity. its about this man and HIS dream.

My point with the Claremont run is not that people don't want Xavier, but it's the fact that that run, which reshaped the X-Men and defined them ever since, was a run mostly without Xavier. The same goes for most of the 90s. The fact that these runs are also insanely popular, shows that Xavier just isn't that essential to it all. His role is done, and the X-Men need to pick up the dream. The originals are doing a good job if carrying the dream.

It's time the MLK analogy becomes a full circle one.

 

[Havok83]

IA with Harlekin to a degree. My favorite time for hte X-men was the Seagle/Kelly era and that a large part of that was bc of no Xavier. Not bc I didnt want him around, but bc it forced the X-men to deal with some real issues without him. They were going broke, the estate was in trouble, mutant hate was at a high thanks to Onslaught, Cyclops retired, and they had 3 new strangers join the team that they werent sure they could trust. Xavier wasnt there to be a crutch and means for guidance.

With that said, I dont want him dead at all and dont ever want to see that happen. He needs to come back every so often to reinforce the dream and make his presence known to the team. He's been gone for few years and Im glad he's back and hope he stays for a few more years before getting written out again

 

[Snikt 6]

I also agree to a degree. I think Prof X is essential to the X-Men, but they can work without him. I feel that certian writers (Seagle/Kelly) and a few others have done it really well. The bottom line is the dream is what must carry on.....and by tarnishing the Prof, I feel that certain writers are tarnishing the dream also. If the Prof is all shady and stuff, why follow him? I feel that if there is one person that should be morally straight, its gotta be the founder, or leader anyways. Both Prof X and Scott have been brought down in the last few years, and I just dont think it is a good thing.

 

[OutcryX]

of course they can work without him. but should they? he needs to be around in SOME capacity. Seagle/Kelly came on right after Onslaught, so yes X wasnt going to be around so much. but he was with the X-men THROUGHOUT he 90s which was a very very successful time for the X-Books. it wasnt until the lastpart of the decade that he started not appearing ad even then he would pop up here nd there. Xavier went MIA in the 2000s

 

[Havok83]

of course they can work without him. but should they? he needs to be around in SOME capacity. Seagle/Kelly came on right after Onslaught, so yes X wasnt going to be around so much. but he was with the X-men THROUGHOUT he 90s which was a very very successful time for the X-Books. it wasnt until the lastpart of the decade that he started not appearing ad even then he would pop up here nd there. Xavier went MIA in the 2000s

I noticed that it was Claremont that was around when he got written out when he returned and I dont think he cares to have Xavier around much. A large portion of his time as an X-men writer has been without Xavier. I think he prefers the team independent from him

 

[d. martin]

Well, now that he's got his powers back, not to mention a healed body, he better open a can of whupass on the MU. I'd like to see Xavier take more of a world leader voice and really straighten up the mess that was Decimation.

 

[Snikt 6]

I noticed that it was Claremont that was around when he got written out when he returned and I dont think he cares to have Xavier around much. A large portion of his time as an X-men writer has been without Xavier. I think he prefers the team independent from him

Yeah, I noticed that also. I disagree with CC on that, I think they do NEED him around. They tend to loose focus on the big picture without him around. Who would you rather have as your leader: Prof X or Scott/Emma....no brainer for me.

I also would rather have him injured and hang out in the wheelchair. I think it is a great visual having all this mind power with limitations on your physical body.

 

[Valechan]

I think Charly X needs to position himself as the all-leader of Mutantkind. I'd like to see a battle between him and Mags for this role. I mean, there are only 200 mutants around, they need to be together, they can't fight against each other anymore, and Charly X might be the one and only person to bring them together.

Has anyone read the Illuminati Limited? Xavier's got the Infinity Mind Gem... perhaps it's time to use it

 

[Snikt 6]

^Could you explain the "Mind Gem"? I dont pick up Illuminai LS - Should I?

 

[Valechan]

Infinty Gems, six gems with power over the mind, reality, time, space, soul and power, all of them combined form the Infinity Gauntlet. The Illuminati went to search for them and then split them, one for each for safekeeping. What I'm saying is maybe Charly needs to use the Mind Gem in order to boost his powers and try to find a way for mutantkind to either work together or to give them back their powers.

And yes you should buy that limited, it's terrific. The art is great, the banter is great... I'm really enjoying it

 

[Valechan]

btw... what's OFFIICAL?? What does it mean?

 

[Snikt 6]

^Good enough for me, Ill check it out this Wednesday.

I would love to have all mutant kind band together as Chuck as their leader. Problem will be Exodus/Sinister/Sabertooth and all those others who will try to chip away at them. And you know Mags will show up sooner or later.

 

[Snikt 6]

^Dang it. Can we fix that misspelling?

 

[Valechan]

It has been said that he will show up on Uncanny. And Sinister isn't a mutant

 

[Valechan]

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