Once the Wrestling Thread Goes Bryan, There's No Point in Tryin! - - Part 64

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

I never get over that this jackass used to be Snoop Dogg's bodyguard...

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

I never get over that this jackass used to be Snoop Dogg's bodyguard...

Keep your eyes focused on Camron and Naomi instead.

 

[TX85]

Only saw bits of Impact and so I watched all today and now Smackdown,Good episodes and especially Impact!!

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

go Otunga...

 

[Pink Ranger]

Yay, Carlton Banks vs. Heavy D, it's 1993 all over again!

 

[Metallo]

Jesus Otunga is so ridiculous. Does the guy SWEAT babyoil?

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

well, it's almost an hour now and tonight has really sucked so far...

 

[Slushy]

Come on HHH, it's not like it's a lie. Everyone knows that Royal Rumble Street Fight made you.

Hope that's not the reason. That's petty and snobbish.

If the rumor is true (wouldn't be surprised), its irony and ungratefulness at its finest.

Yeah , I'm going to catch up online sometime this week.

I was watching the 92 Rumble last night and noticed Hogan wrestled as a heel. First he runs into the ring and eye gouges a bunch of people, then he rips his shirt off and starts choking someone with it , and then recklessly abandons the shirt in the middle of the ring for Irwin R Schyster to get ahold of.

Later in the match after he is fairly eliminated by Sid he turns to the audience in disbelief as if he was somehow wronged. Then he grabs Sid hand and won't let go allowing Flair to get the win. Sid got screwed. Meanwhile Hogan causes a huge fuss and several referees have to come down. Flair didn't get the chance to celebrate in the ring because of Hogan's selfish whining but at least he gets to cut a nice promo backstage.

Not only was that NY crowd pro-Justice, but the best part was when Sid was playing to them especially by pointing out to the "Hulk Who?" sign. t:

The end of that Rumble has always seemed screwy to me. Hogan becomes a sore loser when all Sid did was follow the rules. There are no friends in the Rumble when you get right down to it.

There was lots of politicking going on there. The belt gets taken off Hogan instead of him losing it. Flair has to win it via the Rumble. Hogan makes sure he's there to help Flair win and take some of the credit and hog some of the spotlight. Its great Flair won and I have no issues with a heel winning in dirty fashion but the moment wasn't truly his. At least one could claim Sid was strongly protected in his elimination.

I truly believe if it wasn't for the steroid scandal, we would've gotten

WWF Championship
Hulk Hogan Vs. Ric Flair - No "farewell" match for The Hulkster. The Nature Boy just would've been Hogan's job boy two years earlier.

Sid Justice Vs. The Undertaker - The Streak might've ended here already.

Randy Savage Vs. Jake Roberts - This would've been the blowoff to their feud instead of SNME.

for Wrestlemania VIII. Don't get me wrong, I loved Flair Vs. Savage as its still one of my favorite match of all-time, but not to have gotten Hogan Vs. Flair in Vince's company until 10 years kinda sucks.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Jesus Otunga is so ridiculous. Does the guy SWEAT babyoil?

He's just using the leftovers from Randy Orton's stash, can't let it go to waste.

 

[Metallo]

Which stash we talking about? Could be more than just one if you know what I mean.

 

[LOBO3315a]

Jesus Otunga is so ridiculous. Does the guy SWEAT babyoil?

He eats babies and and sweats them out....

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

Which stash we talking about? Could be more than just one if you know what I mean.

Well played Metallo.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

Frankenswagger

 

[The Sage]

Credit www.PWInsider.com

IMPACT RATING
by Dave Scherer @ 5:55 PM on 6/15/2012

The 6/14 edition of Impact did a 1.02 rating with 1,341,000 viewers. Both of those numbers are highs for the new time slot. The show has been really good lately for those who haven't been watching.

Good. I hope this encourages them to keep the shows strong.

 

[THUNDERSTRIKE]

why do those idiots at the announce table act like Ryback is the next big thing?... jesus...

Ryback had it better when he was running with Wade Barrett and his crew...

 

[The Sage]

The Score's Arda Ocal sits down with Bret "The Hitman" Hart in the final part of his three part interview. Bret touches on Lex Luger, his opportunity to carry "the ball" for WWE and his role as the champion of the company in the 1990's. Highlights:

On Ratings after dropping the title to Michaels at Wrestlemania XII and Steve Austin: "At the time, ratings plummeted after I dropped the belt to Shawn at Wrestlemania XII. They started losing the ratings to WCW. Shawn did not fill the void like I did and they kinda ended up where its like 'We're gonna go back to Bret Hart' The guy that pulled them all out of that was Steve Austin and that was the guy I had a lot to do with helping shape where he was going in his career. I think I had a lot to do with, through the '90s and I think I had a lot to do with the direction the whole company went, and the stars that did make it for WWE, like Austin and even Shawn I had a lot to do with helping get where they were."

On carrying the company through the 1990's: "[Vince] needed someone immediately, like someone right now to carry the whole thing and not drop it. And thats what I love about my era. Its like 'Here, give it to Bret Hart'. And they gave me all that. And you know I say, guys like Flair and some of these guys say Bret Hart didn't draw money, and thats not true at all. I did draw money. I drew big houses. And I had the tough job of having to carry things, I had to be the big star after Hulk Hogan, who was a failed hero at the moment."

On changing the 'rules' as champ: "The big one was I was never a big fan of the big star on the door dressing room. Warrior had it, Macho Man had it too with Liz, but Liz had to change and it was a different thing with Macho, but I always felt Macho earned it. Hogan had the fruit basket, the flowers and the special room with star on the door too. I always felt Hogan earned it too. I never thought he didn't deserve any of that, he did. I know just when it came to me, you know the limo rides, and the limo service and all that, I didn't want any of that" ... "I want to change in the dressing room with the other wrestlers. I don't need the star on the door, I don't want it. Save the "its all a big show" for somebody else, I don't want it. I was the first champion to refuse that" ... "You see guys like Warrior and Hogan that didn't have the time of day for anybody but themselves. I changed that. I wanted to be not just the peoples champion, but I felt like I was the dressing room champion".

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/341814194.php

 

[The Batman]

Man, I do not like the way Bret comes off in the past two interviews posted here. Looks like the hatchet between him and michales wasnt really buried.

 

[TX85]

Yeah in some parts of the interviews from what he says seems truthful But in many parts he comes off as tooting his own horn even more than ever before and seems he still has a major ego!

Good read though!

 

[bullets]

Bret's never going to get over what happened. I'm sure he's speaking his honest opinions but the bitterness always comes through.

Damn...Cena gets to be top star, even if he ISNT the champion, gets to kiss Eve in promos, and bedded Mickie in real life...no wonder he acts like he dosen't give a **** about crowd reaction, lol

There was a storyline on RAW where Cena and Mickie started dating. It was completely dropped without explanantion the next week. At least now we have the end result.

http://www.pwinsider.com/article/69355/one-of-the-original-wrestlemania-celebrities-headed-to-raw-this-monday.html?p=1

Its about time.

 

[TripleR]

It always was and still is real to Bret. Growing up in the family he did, the business was never just ''business'' to him. Sometimes I think he only buried the hatchet with Shawn so he could try to claim to be the bigger or more important star without it sounding like it was coming from a bitter place.

I've always thought that deep down he's just mad at himself for choosing to go to WCW. That's why Montreal happened, it's why he had his career ended by Goldberg, he probably thinks if he was around Owen would still be alive, and then after all that he had to watch as Shawn made the miraculous comeback he couldn't. Even if he has let Montreal go and truly forgives Shawn, I think he still resents that Shawn got to come back and do all that. He hates how his career ended and to make up for that he boasts about glory days, talks himself up, and puts others down... in short, Bret's a ****ing grumpy old mark.

 

[NDX]

Some Smackdown notes:

That first half hour was glorious, from promos to tag team wrestling to storytelling and development.

Damien Sandow is a glorious, cart-wheeling bastard.

So... Show's gonna make Cena uncomfortable. Where exactly does he plan to put that fist of his?

 

[Superark]

Yeah in some parts of the interviews from what he says seems truthful But in many parts he comes off as tooting his own horn even more than ever before and seems he still has a major ego!

Good read though!

Bret always comes across as a guy with an axe to grind and as a guy who is still bitter.

IMO, he has one of the worst egos in wrestling. No he never let that ego get in the way of business and putting guys over, but he puts himself on a pedestal.

Next to Hogan, no one puts themselves over more than Bret. Even when he compliments guys, he always has to draw some kind of comparison to himself and the boys being like him.

And of course just like so many other wrestlers like (Flair for example), Bret flips flops his opinion of someone based on how they put him over.

 

[NDX]

Credit www.Prowrestling.net

Bummer

TNA wrestler Chris Sabin suffered a knee injury on Thursday's Impact Wrestling taping. The extent of the injury is unknown, but a source noted that it "doesn't look good." Sabin suffered the injury during the Ultimate X match when he landed on the floor.

EDIT: Dixie Carter tweeted Chris Sabin tore his ACL last night in the Ulitmate X match.

Well, that sucks. Not a fan, but he's important to that division, has been a staple of it since it's inception.

 

[Wheels]

Bret Hart is the biggest mark to ever lace up a pair of wrestling boots. I love him as a performer, but it's true.

 

[Hunter Rider]

This wouldn't surprise if it's true. I'm actually kind of irritated by it:


Triple H Reportedly Against WWE Utilizing Mick Foley On Television

Submitted by Daniel Pena on June 15, 2012 - 1:54pm
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Wrestling Observer editor Dave Meltzer was asked by a reader during his radio show why WWE has not utilized Mick Foley on television more frequently since his return to the organization last November. He said this is due to wrestler/executive Paul 'Triple H' Levesque's lobbying, who is resentful of "The Hardcore Legend."
Meltzer reports Levesque deprecates Foley whenever his name is broached in creative meetings. While Brian Gewirtz, WWE's Senior Vice President of Creative Writing, feels Foley is a creative and a good performer, Levesque thinks otherwise. He says Foley 'doesn't look tough' and can't be taken seriously as an in-ring performer.
A former WWE creative writer told Power Slam in 2008 under the condition of anonymity that Levesque would disparage Foley whenever he appeared for the company, and in the process, diminished his value in the eyes of Vince and Stephanie McMahon.
"Foley is an out-of-shape nobody," Levesque was reported as saying by the writer. "No one cares about him at all. Funaki puts more asses in the seats than Foley does. He should pay us for coming on our shows."
Meltzer believes the real reason Levesque still holds Foley in contempt is because he gets irritated over the consensus of his closest co-workers that his memorable matches with Foley in 2000 'made him a star.'
Foley has criticized Levesque in the past; he took several veiled shots at 'H in his 2007 autobiography The Hardcore Diaries. He also took issue online with Levesque belittling ring announcer Lilian Garcia with a remark he felt was hurtful during an April 2010 episode of Raw. Foley acknowledged then that he may have cost himself professionally, but felt he had to stand by his principles.

This smells like Haitch to me, it's so similar to many other things said about him, he's a ****, his actions damage others which is what puts him closer to Hogan's league than anyone else.

He needs to accept it, no street fight with Foley, no credibility.

The Score's Arda Ocal sits down with Bret "The Hitman" Hart in the final part of his three part interview. Bret touches on Lex Luger, his opportunity to carry "the ball" for WWE and his role as the champion of the company in the 1990's. Highlights:

On Ratings after dropping the title to Michaels at Wrestlemania XII and Steve Austin: "At the time, ratings plummeted after I dropped the belt to Shawn at Wrestlemania XII. They started losing the ratings to WCW. Shawn did not fill the void like I did and they kinda ended up where its like 'We're gonna go back to Bret Hart' The guy that pulled them all out of that was Steve Austin and that was the guy I had a lot to do with helping shape where he was going in his career. I think I had a lot to do with, through the '90s and I think I had a lot to do with the direction the whole company went, and the stars that did make it for WWE, like Austin and even Shawn I had a lot to do with helping get where they were."

On carrying the company through the 1990's: "[Vince] needed someone immediately, like someone right now to carry the whole thing and not drop it. And thats what I love about my era. Its like 'Here, give it to Bret Hart'. And they gave me all that. And you know I say, guys like Flair and some of these guys say Bret Hart didn't draw money, and thats not true at all. I did draw money. I drew big houses. And I had the tough job of having to carry things, I had to be the big star after Hulk Hogan, who was a failed hero at the moment."

On changing the 'rules' as champ: "The big one was I was never a big fan of the big star on the door dressing room. Warrior had it, Macho Man had it too with Liz, but Liz had to change and it was a different thing with Macho, but I always felt Macho earned it. Hogan had the fruit basket, the flowers and the special room with star on the door too. I always felt Hogan earned it too. I never thought he didn't deserve any of that, he did. I know just when it came to me, you know the limo rides, and the limo service and all that, I didn't want any of that" ... "I want to change in the dressing room with the other wrestlers. I don't need the star on the door, I don't want it. Save the "its all a big show" for somebody else, I don't want it. I was the first champion to refuse that" ... "You see guys like Warrior and Hogan that didn't have the time of day for anybody but themselves. I changed that. I wanted to be not just the peoples champion, but I felt like I was the dressing room champion".

http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/341814194.php

Jesus! He loves to take credit for Steve Austin, it's crazy, and yeah Shawn having the belt was the reason Raw was losing to WCW, it had nothing to do with the NWO angle at all.....

The last part is either a blatant lie or Heenan is lying, because in his shoot Heenan said Hogan only used the star dressing room when NBC were around at Vince's request, but it was a prop and Hogan changed with the boys as he was politically savvy and didn't want to seperate himself from the locker room.