Other Titles for Batman Forever?

[Kokomo29]

Before the filmmakers finally settled on the title BATMAN FOREVER, were there ever any other titles being considered?

 

[Lazlo Panaflex]

I don't remember exactly but I know they weren't going to go for the roman numeral sequel route.

 

[Ziggyman]

How about...Batman?

 

[CFE]

I remember Warners seriously considering just folding and going with the number route by calling it "Batman III" ... but they decided not to. Most likely because they hadn't done so with "Batman Returns."

So the ended up figuring to just keep using ambiguous words and decided to go with "Forever."

Although, personally, they should've switched the titles of "Batman Forever" and "Batman & Robin" ... meaning that the 3rd film be called "Batman & Robin" and the 4th be called "Batman Forever."

But whatever...

 

[VenomVsSpidey]

I remember Warners seriously considering just folding and going with the number route by calling it "Batman III" ... but they decided not to. Most likely because they hadn't done so with "Batman Returns."

So the ended up figuring to just keep using ambiguous words and decided to go with "Forever."

Although, personally, they should've switched the titles of "Batman Forever" and "Batman & Robin" ... meaning that the 3rd film be called "Batman & Robin" and the 4th be called "Batman Forever."

But whatever...

that would've made alot of sense...

 

[Proximo]

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[DarthDaveBanner]

The title just reeks of the 90's. . . . . . I love it!

 

[Bathead]

It was originally titled -
Batman: This Franchise Is Goin' Down!!

 

[The Sarge]

Robin was just just introduced in the movie,So it makes sense it wasnt named B&R, Untill after he had officially become Robin.

like in the sequel, where he dresses like nightwing.

 

[ross2287]

Batman: This is where it all goes downhill
Batman: Riddler's really the star
Batman: Do you like the thircusth?

 

[Homer J. Fong]

Although, personally, they should've switched the titles of "Batman Forever" and "Batman & Robin" ... meaning that the 3rd film be called "Batman & Robin" and the 4th be called "Batman Forever."

But whatever...

I half-agree, I think BF should've been titled Batman & Robin. But Batman Forever wouldn't seem to be an appropriate title for B&R. Batman Forever is a pretty cheesy title, and that's not so bad, but I remember this remark Burton made once that it sounded like something you'd write in a high school yearbook or something.

(And yes, I bumped up this thread for that.)

 

[RockyBatboa]

Batman: This is where it all goes downhill
Batman: Riddler's really the star
Batman: Do you like the thircusth?

Classic!

I thiought i might have been the only one to remember how strange and feminine Kilmer sounded in that scene with Kidman,

"Tell me docktor, Dou yuu lik da Sithircus?"

In all seriousness, as for why it was called "Batman Forever", Schumacher said the reason was because he was looking for a very "mythic" title for the movie. He said in an interview that he thought Burton's first two movies were legendary, and he wanted a very mythic-sounding title. He aso said that after he named it, the producer Peter Macregor-Scott was the first to approach him and tell him it was a great title, b/c it was so mythic sounding.

Also, the film's story pertaining to Bruce Wayne was about the transformation from the Keaton angle of a tortured hero who felt he had to be Batman, to the Kilmer change of wanting to be healed and stop being batman-by the end of the film, he asserts that he will remain Batman, b/c he chooses to be.

In an interview , Schumacher joked that other titles were considered, including "Batman Strikes Back", and "Batman:This Time it's Personal"
Another early suggestion was "Batman and Robin". Apparently, this title was very popular w/ studio heads, but Shumacher himself decided against it , citing the reason that the film only introduced Dick Grayson/Robin, and was not actually a full Batman and Robin film.

Lookin back, i do agree, since O-Donnel didnt appear until halfway through the movie, and doesnt become Robin until about 20 minutes before the end.

But the title of "BandR" was popular enough, and used for the fourth film, which was the first complete Batman and Robin movie, which had both characters from beginning to end.

The Schumacher info is from an issue of "Sci-FI" magazine that came out in Spring 95, a few months prior to "BF"s release.

I have no problem with the title. I think the the title confuses some people b/c of the tone of the movie. "Forever" when sounded out is not suppose to sound chippy and light and stuff, it's supposed to sound mythical.

Having said all that, "Forever" remains only a decent film, and i'd be interested in a DCut Dvd-from what i've heard, something over 45 minutes was cut from the film, and many scenes that were shot were placed in a different order then originally intentded. For instance, the opening shot w/ Kilmer in the cave was supposed to take place after Kilmer/Carrey's scene at Wayen Enterprises, and when Kilmer denies Carrey's project, Wayne looks out the window , sees the Batsignal, goes to his office, uses the tunnel to get to the cave, and THEN the suit up scene.....

The "Special Edetion" is cool, but only includes about 20 minutes that were cut, without sound or music, just dialouge. There's about another 30 minutes out there somewhere, and i'd enjoy seeing a DCUT, with all those scenes re-inserted, w/ the original scenes put in the propper place.

I think there's a chance this might improve the film from a mediocre C to an above-average, solid B grade.

 

[Proximo]

like in the sequel, where he dresses like nightwing.

He was still Robin... The suit looks like Nightwing simply to make him more "mature" and grown into the role of Robin. He is still as whiny as he was in Forever though, If not more.

 

[K.B.]

"Batman For Enema"....?

 

[RockyBatboa]

 

[RockyBatboa]

Not too funny...

 

[K.B.]

Well my suggestion is to stop taking everything so serious t:

 

[Dark Angel]

agreed!

 

[bulletbillx]

Classic!

I thiought i might have been the only one to remember how strange and feminine Kilmer sounded in that scene with Kidman,

"Tell me docktor, Dou yuu lik da Sithircus?"

In all seriousness, as for why it was called "Batman Forever", Schumacher said the reason was because he was looking for a very "mythic" title for the movie. He said in an interview that he thought Burton's first two movies were legendary, and he wanted a very mythic-sounding title. He aso said that after he named it, the producer Peter Macregor-Scott was the first to approach him and tell him it was a great title, b/c it was so mythic sounding.

Also, the film's story pertaining to Bruce Wayne was about the transformation from the Keaton angle of a tortured hero who felt he had to be Batman, to the Kilmer change of wanting to be healed and stop being batman-by the end of the film, he asserts that he will remain Batman, b/c he chooses to be.

In an interview , Schumacher joked that other titles were considered, including "Batman Strikes Back", and "Batman:This Time it's Personal"
Another early suggestion was "Batman and Robin". Apparently, this title was very popular w/ studio heads, but Shumacher himself decided against it , citing the reason that the film only introduced Dick Grayson/Robin, and was not actually a full Batman and Robin film.

Lookin back, i do agree, since O-Donnel didnt appear until halfway through the movie, and doesnt become Robin until about 20 minutes before the end.

But the title of "BandR" was popular enough, and used for the fourth film, which was the first complete Batman and Robin movie, which had both characters from beginning to end.

The Schumacher info is from an issue of "Sci-FI" magazine that came out in Spring 95, a few months prior to "BF"s release.

I have no problem with the title. I think the the title confuses some people b/c of the tone of the movie. "Forever" when sounded out is not suppose to sound chippy and light and stuff, it's supposed to sound mythical.

Having said all that, "Forever" remains only a decent film, and i'd be interested in a DCut Dvd-from what i've heard, something over 45 minutes was cut from the film, and many scenes that were shot were placed in a different order then originally intentded. For instance, the opening shot w/ Kilmer in the cave was supposed to take place after Kilmer/Carrey's scene at Wayen Enterprises, and when Kilmer denies Carrey's project, Wayne looks out the window , sees the Batsignal, goes to his office, uses the tunnel to get to the cave, and THEN the suit up scene.....

The "Special Edetion" is cool, but only includes about 20 minutes that were cut, without sound or music, just dialouge. There's about another 30 minutes out there somewhere, and i'd enjoy seeing a DCUT, with all those scenes re-inserted, w/ the original scenes put in the propper place.

I think there's a chance this might improve the film from a mediocre C to an above-average, solid B grade.

I would like a Director's cut of Forever as well. It could bring it up to par with the other movies somewhat which would make the trilogy better. nothing could save B&R though.

Back on topic: I think the title was pretty good and fit the plot. Though it would fit better in the directors cut which with the redbook and other subplots made batman's tortured hero to choosing to be batman arc better IMO.