Palworld: Pokémon with Guns

It isn't going to really hurt them either. Nexomon and Digimon are a thing. Its a nothingburger of a revelation. The only reason Nintendo is even pulling this stunt is because Palworld had direct support from Microsoft with it being on gamepass. The reason this is going down in Japanese court is they know they don't have a snowballs chance in hell in an American or European court.
outside of the name and concept, Digimon doesn't really come off as a ripoff of Pokemon the same way Palworld does. I don't know what Nexomon is. I know this isn't the reason why this is going down, but I'm just saying it doesn't help Palworld's case. If anything, it hurts them.
 
outside of the name and concept, Digimon doesn't really come off as a ripoff of Pokemon the same way Palworld does. I don't know what Nexomon is. I know this isn't the reason why this is going down, but I'm just saying it doesn't help Palworld's case. If anything, it hurts them.
There are Digimon designs that look like Pokémon in clothes. Nexomon is a far more direct clone than Palworld is. If Nintendo is able to win this case, it will have utterly disgusting implications on the Japanese market moving forward. If they're able to retroactively sue over patents they've only recently acquired, they can go after Nexomon, SMT Nocturne, Monster Sanctuary, Casset Beasts etc. Imagine if Id software was able to patent the first person shooter after Catacombs 3D and Wolfenstein, we would be living in a different gaming landscape entirely.
 
There are Digimon designs that look like Pokémon in clothes.
Like what?
Nexomon is a far more direct clone than Palworld is.
What is it though? An anime? A card game? A video game? I don't know what it is.
If Nintendo is able to win this case, it will have utterly disgusting implications on the Japanese market moving forward. If they're able to retroactively sue over patents they've only recently acquired, they can go after Nexomon, SMT Nocturne, Monster Sanctuary, Casset Beasts etc. Imagine if Id software was able to patent the first person shooter after Catacombs 3D and Wolfenstein, we would be living in a different gaming landscape entirely.
I think Nintendo is going to win. Paul Tassi has had a rocky reliability in the very recent past, but he thinks so too.
 
Like what?

What is it though? An anime? A card game? A video game? I don't know what it is.

I think Nintendo is going to win. Paul Tassi has had a rocky reliability in the very recent past, but he thinks so too.
I can find the one I was looking for specifically but here's a few lists I found



Nexomon is a video game.

Nintendo likely will win. They have the resources to purchase the justice they seek but it is objectively bad for the Japanese side of game development if they do. From a practical standpoint, it's only going to effect Palworld in Japan. It'll still be available in the US regardless.
 
Reminder: Bandai-Namco came up with Digimon first as a Tamigatchi competitor that evolved with the anime, card game, and video games.
 
Reminder: Bandai-Namco came up with Digimon first as a Tamigatchi competitor that evolved with the anime, card game, and video games.
This aspect isn't really relevant to the core issue because the outcome of this case potentially gives Nintendo a retroactive monopoly over the creature collection/battling concept which is why this case wouldn't fly in the US per Capcom v Data East.
 
I can find the one I was looking for specifically but here's a few lists I found


no doubt there are Digimon designs that look like Pokemon, but I don't think any of those look like Pokemon in clothes, nor do they look like just straight up ripoffs. Everybody thought of Pokemon when they saw Palworld, it's even in the title of this thread.
Nexomon is a video game.
got it, I'm looking into it now. from a first glance it definitely does look like another Pokemon clone, although it's nowhere near as high profile as Palworld.
Nintendo likely will win. They have the resources to purchase the justice they seek but it is objectively bad for the Japanese side of game development if they do. From a practical standpoint, it's only going to effect Palworld in Japan. It'll still be available in the US regardless.
how do we know this isn't going to affect Palworld in the west?
 
no doubt there are Digimon designs that look like Pokemon, but I don't think any of those look like Pokemon in clothes, nor do they look like just straight up ripoffs. Everybody thought of Pokemon when they saw Palworld, it's even in the title of this thread.

got it, I'm looking into it now. from a first glance it definitely does look like another Pokemon clone, although it's nowhere near as high profile as Palworld.

how do we know this isn't going to affect Palworld in the west?
Because as far as the US goes, this issue was already settled in the 90s. Allowing them to hold a copyright or a patent over concepts like this would effectively give them a monopoly over the genre. In the US, game design concepts and archetypes are not intellectual property. The art, the music, the story, the code etc are.
 
Because as far as the US goes, this issue was already settled in the 90s. Allowing them to hold a copyright or a patent over concepts like this would effectively give them a monopoly over the genre. In the US, game design concepts and archetypes are not intellectual property. The art, the music, the story, the code etc are.
If that's the case, then I think the game is gonna be fine. It's most popular in the west anyway, isn't it?

And on top of that, if Microsoft backs Pocketpair, then they'll have an event stronger defense force.
 
If that's the case, then I think the game is gonna be fine. It's most popular in the west anyway, isn't it?

And on top of that, if Microsoft backs Pocketpair, then they'll have an event stronger defense force.
Exactly. My issue is the ugly precedent it sets for Japanese devs and publishers. There's a lot of potential for abuse here which could creatively stifle devs. It all seems incredibly petty on Nintendo's part.
 
Exactly. My issue is the ugly precedent it sets for Japanese devs and publishers. There's a lot of potential for abuse here which could creatively stifle devs. It all seems incredibly petty on Nintendo's part.
It may seem petty, but they took a long time to actually file the lawsuit. The Pokemon company first issued a statement back in the beginning of the year, and they're suing now in September.
 
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It may seem petty, but they talk a long time to actually file the lawsuit. The Pokemon company first issued a statement back in the beginning of the year, and they're suing now in September.
That frankly doesn't matter to me. They could have just let it go. They are pursuing legal action because they can not because anyone actually did anything wrong. It's not even the same type of game at its core.
 
That frankly doesn't matter to me. They could have just let it go. They are pursuing legal action because they can not because anyone actually did anything wrong. It's not even the same type of game at its core.
Nintendo, and even Sony for that matter, doesn't seem like the type of company that would let this go. I remember from one of the Sony email leaks, it was revealed that they considered suing Netflix because of Squid Game.
Dang, for a moment when seeing the name in the source I thought this meant Microsoft was actually stepping in.
 
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It isn't going to really hurt them either. Nexomon and Digimon are a thing. Its a nothingburger of a revelation. The only reason Nintendo is even pulling this stunt is because Palworld had direct support from Microsoft with it being on gamepass. The reason this is going down in Japanese court is they know they don't have a snowballs chance in hell in an American or European court.

Palworld's developer is a Japanese company. Frankly, that makes filing in Japan the most logical venue. Frankly, IP law in Japan is very, very screwed up.
 
Palworld's developer is a Japanese company. Frankly, that makes filing in Japan the most logical venue. Frankly, IP law in Japan is very, very screwed up.
Eh, I'd argue it makes more sense to file where the game is the most popular but to your point, Pocketpair doesn't have an American branch yet so they have to file in Japan (I was under the impression they did.) In the five years it gonna take for this case to see it's conclusion, these guys will have branches in the US and EU before its all said and done. I definitely agree that IP law in Japan is ****ed and could potentially get a lot worse after this.

The game has apparently sold 25 million units and that number is only growing. Hell, I bought a copy yesterday out of spite.
 
Which, probably explains why they didn't go after them for the designs. The designs are close enough that they may have had a case for trademark. However with Japan, I get the impression that while they have absolute draconian laws over things like fair use, it may be somewhat more liberal in what would be considered fine to count as something separate.

And lets not be too bold in how big Pocket Pair will grow. One major hit does not mean they are going to grow into a multistudio entity.
 
And lets not be too bold in how big Pocket Pair will grow. One major hit does not mean they are going to grow into a multistudio entity.
It's not about growth. They're in a position to where they potentially won't be able to sell and develop their flagship product in Japan. Opening offices elsewhere, even if it's just on paper, could be viable to the survival of their business.
 
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Here are the patents in question:


Lots of MMORPGs feature mounts so that first patent is just plain stupid.
 
Here are the patents in question:


Lots of MMORPGs feature mounts so that first patent is just plain stupid.
I heard that Nintendo got $65K from it which is relatively low, but they still won the lawsuit
 

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