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The Dark Knight Percieved fauts with the Nolan movies:

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I'm talking about this theme:

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That was not in the movies.

Actually it was. Watch the end again, it's at the end seriously. It's obviously not as loud as that its very subtle, they even make a note of it in the commentary if memory serves me correct. But it's in there barely.
 
Originally Posted by Mitthrawnuruodo
1. The title, BB sucked. Its silly and lame. Batman Begins. STUPID. It sounds childish. I hate saying it. Should have been The Batman, or Batman: The Beginnning. Now we have TDK, which i lake, but nobody outside this forum knows that its about Batman! lol Bad marketing. Set things off on the wrong foot.

2. Bales voice. Its all wrong. From the tailer it sounds just as bad as it did in BB. I'm just waiting for the pinched face look and lisp to rear its ugly head again. Its Bale constipated in that suit or something? Has he been smoking 40 a day since the age of 10?

3. The Batsuit. Now the BB suit was bad enough, but the new one really is bad. Not since B&R have we been treated to such utter crap. Its Robocop meats the power Rangers. Silly and goofy. Orver worked clutter. The symbol just disappears in all that gunk. Thats not batman, that iron man. Tip to Mr Nolan. GET A NEW COSTUME DESIGNER!

4. The music. I'm hoping for great things this time, we we are still with the guys that brought us the totally unforgetable BB theme. COULD be boring again. Dull.

5. The Joker. Like Scarecrow, Nolan's realism has destroyed the Joker's real look. Nicholson looked more faithful to the comics that Ledger. Now I LIKE ledger's look, i'm down with it, but its not exactly faithful is it? I wanted the Joker from the Animated series. The Joker from HUSH, TLH, TKJ etc...

6. Alfred. Caine sounds and looks mothing like alfred. He doesn't even try to sound or look like the character. F- for effort there Sir can't be bothered to research my roles Caine.

7. The batbike. Is it needed? REALY? or is it in this film so WB can sell more toys? Is it there just to fill an action scene that Nolan could have worked around the Tumbler? It looks ok, but i prefer the batman without so many gadgets. bat-to-basics was the approach Nolan took in BB, and TDK follows staight after. I guess one week is enough time to start introducing the toys again. Bat ski and hover bike in the third film then.

8. Rachel. Now looks completely different! Maybe the Joker hacked her face up, and plastic surgery has made holmes look like Maggie. Or maybe Continuity is blown.

Apart from the title and the rachel part i agree with whats said here and on the joker yes i hate the look but if heath really amazes me i will forgive it you can make fun of these opnions but instead why not try counter-arguing with the guy instead of cheap jabs. It may surprise some here but there are some people out there who really think parts of BB where really dissapointing.
 
like peanut butter and jelly..........Tom and Jerry.........Simon and Garfunkel.........Dog Lips and humping....

Mmmm.....peanut butter & jelly. :twisted:

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I would like to ask you about your opinion regarding the Joker, though. You say you like the look. Do you mean that you just take a theoretical issue with the deviations from the comic look, but in practice you are alright with them, or do you like the look in theory, but take practical issue with it being used for the Joker in a Batman movie? Because your opinion has a bit of an internal contradiction.

I would PREFER the Joker to look like the Joker from TLH/Animated series/TKJ etc...
To me, Nicholoson looked closer to the comics. The thing is, I love what Nicholson did. When I heard Ledger was taking on the Joker i thought ok. Well at least they can do a more faithful version this time.
But in looks, its not. Now, i'm quite happy to watch ledger looking the way he did, it works for the character. But i would have PREFERED him to look closer to the comics. I a change is made from the comics, but its a good change, then i'm all up for that. For instance, making Joker the killer of waynes parants in B89, and Ra's wayne's teacher in BB was a stroke of genius. Those departues were welcomed by me.
I don't welcome Ledger look as much sley because i don't think it benefits the material any better than if he looked as he did in the comics. But, i will say, it works on film, it looks ok, and shouldn't harm it any. Only serious batfans might take offense at this and ask WHY? I found Nicholson's Joker believeable. the acid and what not. Its a little convaulted. but we're watching Batman. lol not some documentary on acid effects on human flesh. Its possible that what happened to jack could happen to someone.
No one was moaning in 89.
 
I still think Ledgers look is shock value for the sake of shock value not for any creative and essential to the story or the character. I think deep down 99% of us would prefer the classic look over whats been made thats not to say ledger wont be good but for me he is already a hurdle behind in my exspectations i am deathly afraid i wont see THE JOKER but a psycho villain played well.
 
Stop complaining, stop having your own opinions ya'll.
-What Jett sounds like

LOL....god i really dislike Jett, love parts of his site though but his pro Nolan love in with no tolerance for someone who doesnt think his movies (batman) are the second coming is sickening imo...god i really dislike him.
 
Hi! I'm in the 1% of the people (according to your once again paranoid measurements)!
You have no idea what other people think. I don't either. Nobody does, really, except if you talk to them. You know, the opposite of closing your ears and going "lalalalalala", which is what you constantly do.
Oh, and you have no idea how it'll play out in the script. I don't either. Nobody does, really. And you get the idea of what I'd write next...
 
So you would prefer Ledgers current look over ledger in a mix of the current and classic look? be TOTALLY HONEST hand on your heart swear to god honest:cwink: .
 
Actually I really really really like the look. It grew on me and when I have been thinking Joker I think Ledgers. I am probably in that small percentage that thinks that though.
 
Well I liked it when I saw the first picture, it just went up from there though.
 
So you would prefer Ledgers current look over ledger in a mix of the current and classic look? be TOTALLY HONEST hand on your heart swear to god honest:cwink: .

I've said many times that I don't give a damn about the comics, if it's done well in the movie. And, because I don't know how it'll work in context of the movie and script, I can't answer you if I'd prefer the classic look.

Ledger's Joker, however, IS a mix of classic and current looks, and just by photos and his performance snippets in the trailer, I have no problem. You know, the comics suck, more than often. I'm not really anxious to see everything from the source material be done right. Or else we'd have Bale say "I'm the goddamn Batman".

So, my answer is: it's already a mix and I'm happy with it. But I'll have to see the movie to see its function and purposes in context. I won't be going around saying that Nolan did it for the sake of shock value (plus he always explain reasons and stuff for everything he does in all his films, not just Batman).
Hand on my heart and swear to George Lucas, honest.
 
Oh, and for the record (once more), I hated the first pic of LEdger as Joker, from IBIHDT.
 
You know, him and GoogleMe remind me of this excellent line by Batman in BR, right before he takes off his mask in fron of Selina and Shreck:
"GoogleMe, don't you see? We're the same. The same... split right in the center (or something to that effect)".
 
I think I might watch BR tonight...nah I probably won't I have a big day today =)
 
Yup, I'll find some time to watch French Connection, though. Now, THERE's realism and grittiness.
 
I just posted this in a forum that no one ever reads, so here it is: I find that Nolan's "realistic" approach is pretty predictable, and tends to cause disappointment quite regularly. I can imagine him organising a "realistic" Christmas, without a tree, presents, decorations, wine or any food other than bread and water. It would be "new" or "fresh" or whatever we want to call departure from tested traditions, but it would also be dull.

I really hope they hand over to a new director after TDK- I don't want to have to wait another 20 years for a reboot.

We do not need to have a Schumacheresque movie with flimsy characters, lurid visuals, absurd setpieces and a complete abandon of the source's dark tone; nor do we need a movie that is so heavily marked by the artistic lexicon of a director like Tim Burton. But can't we have a Batman movie where the characters are as there supposed to be, where the director doesn't feel the need to apologise for and mask the comicbook origins, where what works is maintained rather than jettisoned in an effort to be "new"?
 
Nicely worded opinion. I disagree almost totally, but nicely worded.
 
The (I shudder to use this word in relation to Nolans series but ok) realistic aspect of this series is probably one of my favorite aspects. Mainly because the reason why I liked Batman was because of how most of these characters weren't incredibly super powered just crazy or freakish in someway. I can definitly see why people don't like it though
 
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