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Play the game: "Continuity Court!"

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I was reading Dan Slott's "She-Hulk" volume 1 again tonight, and thought of a new SHH forum game.

Here's the idea -- just like the lawyers, participants must use marvel comics and cite them as evidence and "precedent." (Using lingo you heard on "CSI" or "Law and Order" will help.)

For tyhis round, I will be the "judge" -- and anyone is allowed to yell "objection" or arguing points, etc.

You must make it sound lawyerly, though! :daredevil

OK, let's begin!

CASE #1: Hear ye! The accused, Dr.Bruce Banner, aka The Incredible Hulk, stands accused of 3048565 counts of vandalism, harassing an officer of the law, and wanton disregard for public property!

Sir, How do you plead?

Brice Banner: "I didn't do it -- it was the HULK! NOT GUILTY!!"

(gasps, shock, faints.)

Opening statements, please!
 
"Mr. Banner, is it not true that you have, on occasion, been in total control of the Hulk?"

"Yes, sir. But I'm still not the Hulk."

"When did this supposed 'Hulk' first appear?"

"After I was bombarded by Gamma Rays."

"And are you ever in the same place, side by side?"

"Well, no."

"So, logically, do you not just become the Hulk?"

"Well, you see, it's my father's fault-"

"Hey, HEY! No movie-verse!"

"Thank you, Your Honor, but I really should do most of the talking."
 
If I may enter a plea of insanity due to a documented case of MPD (Multiple personality disorder? The defendants psychiatrist Dr. Lenord Samson has diagnosed Banner many years ago with this mental illness and since it was not Banner himself commiting these acts but another personality he should not be charged with these um... charges.
 
(I'm with the defense on this one)

Bruce Banner has tried multiple times to cure himself of the Hulk. He hates the Hulk. He obviously does not agree with the actions of Hulk. Why should he be held responsible for a part of him that is uncontrollable?
 
More defense :D

Many times Dr. Banner was under attack by many different organizations including the US army, Shield, and others, and due to the constant hunting and predujice against a man with his uncontrolable disease, he became the Hulk and much of the Property damage that is being charged aginst him was in simple self defense.
 
(Prosicution)


But, if Mr. Banner is truely not responsible for the crimes of his "other personalities," and yet is capable of realizing their danger, why has he never commited himself to a psychiatric facility. Would it not be wise, possessing both a multitude of violent and dangerous "personalities" and superhuman abilities in the form of vast strength and a regenerative healing factor that makes him imune to most conventional causes od death, to seek help in a facility that would also have enough security to keep him in check should one of his other personalities become dominant and threaten the safety of those around him?
 
If you were being attacked and shot at wherever you went would you want to stay in a public facility? Especially since the Government would immediatly come in and take you away for testing? Dr. Banner hasn't just been on the run and trying to hide. He's been devoting nearly every waking hour to finding a cure and trying to stop what he becomes. He has very limited control (If any most times) over the Hulks actions.
 
And on what do you base the claim that the militairy would simply come and take him away. It seems to me that the only reason they atack The Hulk in the first place is because of the threat he poses to society. Said threat would be gone were he held in a maximum psychiatric facility for treatment. And, such a facility would be better equipt to help Dr. Banner cure the physical aspect of his condition than working out of a Motel 6 in New Mexico. While he may not hold responsibility for his actions as The Hulk, he certainly holds responsibility for his actions when he isn't. And it is quite obvious that Dr. Banner has not done everythung he is capable of to keep his various personalities from posing a threat to everyone.
 
The military has attempted to lock the Hulk up for years using everything from mind control devices to thousand tonne slabs of rock. The Vault would hold him for about as long as it would take for one other inmate to shove him to the ground and that is about as maximum security as it can get.
 
And yet none of these cells were an atempt to cure Dr. Banner's physical or psychological conditions. SImply to jail him. Were he in a psychiatric institution seeking treatment for both conditions, there is no evidence to support the claim that the military would pull him out one of these facilities and put him in a jailcell with no hope of treatments. The atempts at jailing The Hulk were just that. Atempts at containing Dr. Banner until a more suitible solution could be found. Banner never once atempted to contain himself and seak proper psychiatric treatment. Seeing Dr. Samson as his therapist does not offer the same level of treatment that a properly run psychatric facility could. Dr. Banner is putting everyone around him in danger by trying to solve his problems himself instead of getting the proper help.
 
If he's found guilty can we play "Being a *****er Like Tony Stark" and shoot him off to space?
 
We'll decide his punishment for his crimes if he is found guilty. If he is deemed too much of a danger to the world we may be forced to take drastic measures.
(Out of courtroom)
I just had a thought. Who plays Banner/Hulk in the RPG's we have going on here? We could invite him over to speak for Banner himself if we put him on the stand :)

EDIT: Unstoppable plays him. So if we need to we'll ask him if he'll step up to the stand.
 
The Question said:
there is no evidence to support the claim that the military would pull him out one of these facilities and put him in a jailcell with no hope of treatments.
The US govt. has tried to capture Banner to use him for tests to create more like him (See Jenkins' run). That would create more damage than it would prevent. NOBODY in the US govt. has tried to help Bruce, only exploit or kill him.

For a long period of time (Jones' run) Dr. Banner has been on the run from a secret organization led by the Leader. He was hunted for a usable sample of Hulk blood to create persons of mass destruction. This is another example of an organization with the resources to reach Banner and exploit his situation if he is held in a fixed location.

As far as seeking help goes, Dr. Banner has frequently been aided by Dr. Leonard Samson who is a world-renowned psychologist. Dr. Samson has more experience and resources than anyone on Earth when it comes to helping Bruce Banner deal with his Hulk persona.

In fact, Hulk was controlled by Bruce Banner for some time do to Dr. Samson's guidance.
 
And yet, if Dr. Danner had sought help from a fully equipt psychiatric facility, they would have been better equipt to both treat and contain Dr. Banner, as would they to protect him from The Leader's terrorist organization and from the military trying to use his DNA as a weapon. The ACLU would have been completely on Dr. Banner's side on that kind of civil rights debate. The truth is, Dr. Banner was fully capable of seeking the best help possible in curing both his physical and psychological conditions,a nd protecting him from other parties who would wish to exploit said conditions. But he did not. He chose to solve the problem himself. And look at the damage it's caused.
 
The Question said:
And yet, if Dr. Danner had sought help from a fully equipt psychiatric facility, they would have been better equipt to both treat and contain Dr. Banner, as would they to protect him from The Leader's terrorist organization and from the military trying to use his DNA as a weapon. The ACLU would have been completely on Dr. Banner's side on that kind of civil rights debate. The truth is, Dr. Banner was fully capable of seeking the best help possible in curing both his physical and psychological conditions,a nd protecting him from other parties who would wish to exploit said conditions. But he did not. He chose to solve the problem himself. And look at the damage it's caused.

(should you really be calling him The Leader in court? kidding...)
(procecution) Robert Bruce Banner never for a second thought that he was the one with a problem. He claims to hate the Hulk. But the Hulk is just as much a part of him as himself. Indeed, Calvin Zabo was convicted for similar acts he commited in the form of the Mr. Hyde. Zabo has also tried to rid himself of this ghost forever. Why was Zabo shunned, and the Hulk debated? Because the Hulk was once an Avenger, whereas Hyde was a Master of Evil. The Hulk was never a hero. But there was a time he pretended to be. Dr. Banner needs the Hulk. Because deep down, Banner is a very angry man, who has been very angry for a very long time. Only the Hulk has allowed him to take it out on the world, while he gets off scott free.
 
Why don't we put Dr. Banner on the stand and let him defend himself if possible? (Are we allowed to do that?)
 
Why doesn't anybody call Doc Samson, Dr. Strange, or the Thing to the stand and testify in favor of the Hulk?
 
bored said:
"Mr. Banner, is it not true that you have, on occasion, been in total control of the Hulk?"

"Yes, sir. But I'm still not the Hulk."

"When did this supposed 'Hulk' first appear?"

"After I was bombarded by Gamma Rays."

"And are you ever in the same place, side by side?"

"Well, no."

"So, logically, do you not just become the Hulk?"

"Well, you see, it's my father's fault-"

"Hey, HEY! No movie-verse!"

"Thank you, Your Honor, but I really should do most of the talking."

I'm sorry to bring up the past conversation, but I would like to add that while he wasn't placed with nano-machines like in the movie-verse, both David Banners of the movie and comic-verse (introduced in the David run) greatly abused young Bruce as a child. Because of that, the seed of anger that would soon be personified by The Hulk was planted into the mind and soul of Bruce Banner.
 
supermarvelman said:
Why doesn't anybody call Doc Samson, Dr. Strange, or the Thing to the stand and testify in favor of the Hulk?

We should get people from the RPGs who have been playing those characters for a while and ask if they'd like to join this. It would be interesting.
 

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