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Which do you like better as a whole ?
Both are crap, but prequels were far more imaginative.
I know the trilogy isn't finished yet, but at this point I'm going to go with the prequels. The prequels have a lot of flaws in their execution, but at least there's an interesting and meaningful story there that attempts to do something new. The sequel trilogy is mostly just cashing in on the nostalgia from the OT movies and regurgitating it's basic story beats and designs. Rebels vs Empire 2.0, X-wings vs. Tie Fighters, etc. I also like the characters from the prequels more, they just feel more developed and more grounded to me.
On a side note I think the prequel hate is getting a bit out of hand, and these new movies are fueling it more than ever. As someone who grew up with the OT and the Prequels at the same time, I didn't really draw a distinction between the two until fairly recently. As an adult I realize that the prequels aren't as good as the OT, but I don't think they're quite the abominations that some people make them out to be. A lot of the hate they get seems somewhat retroactive, and I feel like the ST will be equally hated in a decade or so.
In short, I agree with this.
This is not even a fair fight. While the ST may not be OT quality, the films are at least enjoyable. The PT is just absolute trash. They're poorly written and visually look like a video game with real people inserted into it. They just look awful. The ST actually look like professional films, and while TFA may be guilty of being a rehash of ANH, still is at least entertaining. Loved TLJ. HATE all the prequel films.
I have to disagree a bit. I was watching some clips from the end battle of AOTC the other day, and a lot of it holds up fine. Occasionally there's a video game-looking shot, but a lot of the vehicle/droid effects look great. Most of the shots of the clones are pretty convincing. You also have to keep in mind that the prequels were pretty much the first movies to use CGI at this scale. When you consider that, it's actually pretty impressive.
The main things that look bad to me in the prequels are the creature effects, and I'd argue that a lot of the creature effects in the ST are equally bad by modern standards. I thought the porgs looked bad in almost every shot, and those horses looked terrible and creepy in TLJ. I thought Snoke and Maz Kanata looked bad in TFA.
Honestly, I thought the visual effects in Thor Ragnarok were pretty bad at times. That wolf looked very cartoony, Hela's army looked like a video game effect, and even Hulk looked kind of fake at times. Most people (myself included) say they don't care because the effects fit the world and the tone that the movie establishes. I'd kind of argue the same is true of the prequels.
For some, the PT hate may be retroactive. But the complaints people hurl at them now are complaints I was the first one to voice when they were new. So, it just looks like over time people have come around to my line of thinking. At least a very fair number have.
I think the amount of hype that TPM got led to a lot of fans being in denial about its quality during its first run. It had more hype than any other film I can remember, even more than Batman 1989 and Jurassic Park, which is saying a lot.
Within about a year though and certainly by the time AOTC was coming out, it was widely accepted that it was junk. The treatment of the prequels was far from the typical fanboy "New Toy Cycle" where it often becomes popular to put down the old films to prop up the new ones like what happened to Sam Raimi's Spider-Man. The prequels were hated while they were current and a decade before the sequels were even a glimmer.