Porn stars and Class

[The Dark Defender]

And Jenna Haze is top 5 for me

Call me old fashioned but i wouldn't want a porn star wife in any form, i kinda figure if you go wifey you go for a classy lady.

A porn star can be classier than a virgin.

 

[Hunter Rider]

A porn star can be classier than a virgin.

Any chick that has been humped and had a load jacked on her face on vid for money is off the classy list IMO

 

[The Dark Defender]

Any chick that has been humped and had a load jacked on her face on vid for money is off the classy list IMO

I don't think someones classyness or lack there of should be judged by their sexual activity.

Porn stars have sex alot...so do alot of other people, porn stars are just smarter because they get paid for.

Someone that has sex far less can be a far worse, less classy human being.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I don't think someones classyness or lack there of should be judged by their sexual activity.

Porn stars have sex alot...so do alot of other people, porn stars are just smarter because they get paid for.

Someone that has sex far less can be a far worse, less classy human being.

I'm not sure getting gagged and gang banged for money is smart but ok and the hole point of porn is they are ****es, that's what guys watch for, if they were nice classy GF material there'd be no point.

Being Classy and being a bad person are not one in the same, i'd say if a girls gets ****ed on camera for doe by a load of dudes she may be a sweet, kind generous person but she ain't classy

 

[The Dark Defender]

I'm not sure getting gagged and gang banged for money is smart but ok and the hole point of porn is they are ****es, that's what guys watch for, if they were nice classy GF material there'd be no point.

Being Classy and being a bad person are not one in the same, i'd say if a girls gets ****ed on camera for doe by a load of dudes she may be a sweet, kind generous person but she ain't classy

I think the term ****e is very ignorant, and shows much less class than over-sexuality does. Not to mention that they're role-playing in their films, few porn stars are as wild as you may think from watching their films.

I'd say if a girl gets *** splashed on her face and gets banged from behind on camera in her films, but is a very nice, friendly, caring, down to earth person, she's much more classy than a virgin that's an arrogant, selfish, condescending *****.

As for how smart it is, they're tested very regularly these days, porn stars have safer sex lives than alot of non porn-stars.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I think the term ****e is very ignorant, and shows much less class than over-sexuality does. Not to mention that they're role-playing in their films, few porn stars are as wild as you may think from watching their films.

I'd say if a girl gets *** splashed on her face and gets banged from behind on camera in her films, but is a very nice, friendly, caring, down to earth person, she's much more classy than a virgin that's an arrogant, selfish, condescending *****.

A ****es a ****e whether it be a dude or a chick, if ya spreading em for anything that comes along then that term is valid, unless we start removing words from the dictionary.

again that's not class it's personality.being a good person and being classy aren't the same when we are talking in this context.

 

[The Dark Defender]

It's a term that generally applies to women that really has no male equivelant, the word being in the dictionary doesn't make it appropriate. ****** and Spic are terms too.

Well that depends on what you consider to be class. I don't consider over-sexuality classless and under-sexuality classy. That's not how I judge a persons class.

 

[Hunter Rider]

It's a term that generally applies to women that really has no male equivelant, the word being in the dictionary doesn't make it appropriate. ****** and Spic are terms too.

Well that depends on what you consider to be class. I don't consider over-sexuality classless and under-sexuality classy. That's not how I judge a persons class.

The term can apply to a dude as well, but i agree there is a double standard, it doesn't mean the word is wrong, it's the double standard that is wrong.

I'm not saying that, being sexually open and being ****ed on camera by a bunch of strange dudes you don't even know and in some cases don't like, simply because the money is good isn't the same thing.appetite for sex and how that appetite is satiated is the difference between class and classless.

If a girl chooses to sleep with 50 guys she is attracted to in her private life then i see nothing wrong with that, if she ****s and gang bangs and degrades herself on camera for money with (in some cases) dudes she doesn't even like she's a ****e IMO.

 

[hammy]

I'm not sure getting gagged and gang banged for money is smart but ok and the hole point of porn is they are ****es, that's what guys watch for, if they were nice classy GF material there'd be no point.

I was just about to ask you what you think of the guys who do porn, when you said, this:

A ****es a ****e whether it be a dude or a chick,

I can't help but wonder if you truthfully think of them differently, though. If for the guys it's like, yeah .. way to go, and for the girls it's .. she's such a skank.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I was just about to ask you what you think of the guys who do porn, when you said, this:

I can't help but wonder if you truthfully think of them differently, though. If for the guys it's like, yeah .. way to go, and for the girls it's .. she's such a skank.

Honestly i don't sit there thinking "These are horribly ****ty ppl", in a lot of stuff the guy is little more than a stunt object, you barely see him so he's kind of a non factor but sure while in essence as a guy we may think "I'd love that job" he is a male ho, the question is do girls see both as ho's or just the chicks ?

 

[The Dark Defender]

It can, but it's a very over-used term in society that far more often refers specifically to women, it's part of society double-standard about women being far more criticized for their sexuality and the way they dress (which women are often labeled as ****es for even the person using the term has no actual knowledge of sexual activity) than men are.
Some people may not mean it to be gender-biased, but it so commonly has been that it's practically automatic. I don't think someone should be insulted for it anyway, their sex life is their business. If ****e were a term that applied specifically to people that steal other peoples relationship partners, I wouldn't find it to be ignorant. Then the label would be fine.

I don't think sex, regardless of the amount of the way the person likes it makes them classy or classless, if women were doing it deliberately with someone that knew was involved with someone else and didn't care, than that woman is very classless. Otherwise like I said, their sex life is their business, it doesn't warrent harsh labeling or personal attacks.

And doing it for money just goes back to what I said earlier. Alot of people are very sexually active, pornstars are just smarter because they get paid for it. I wouldn't automatically equate it to a lack of class in them as a person.

To me, the term ****e is just as bad as ****** or spic, and just as harmful to alot of people that don't deserve it.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I can't help but wonder if you truthfully think of them differently, though. If for the guys it's like, yeah .. way to go, and for the girls it's .. she's such a skank.

Indeed, and that's something I abhor about society (not to say that applies to anyone in particular in this thread).

Generally, that is the way it works.

 

[Hunter Rider]

And doing it for money just goes back to what I said earlier. Alot of people are very sexually active, pornstars are just smarter because they get paid for it. I wouldn't automatically equate it to a lack of class in them as a person.

Again i don't consider it smart and what about the times they are doing it with ppl they don't like and are degraded in scenes but hey the moneys good ?

 

[The Dark Defender]

I don't see why that warrents insulting them, they aren't really harming anyone. They wouldn't be the only ones that hate their jobs sometimes.

And like I said earlier about how smart it is, with how regularly they test people in the business, alot of pornstars have safer sex lives than alot of non porn-stars.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I don't see why that warrents insulting them, they aren't really harming anyone.

And like I said earlier about how smart it is, with how regularly they test people in the business, alot of pornstars have safer sex lives than alot of non porn-stars.

i don't see using an adjective that fits what the person does as being insulting, i mean ive seen you be pretty unpleasant about Jessica Biel simply for existing, maybe not calling her a ****e but the remarks were not nice either.

The bottom line for me is that a girl that is sexual active is not a ****e, a porn chick is, i got no issue with em, may be awesome ppl and if ya see a few interviewed they revel in their ****e status.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Indeed, and that's something I abhor about society (not to say that applies to anyone in particular in this thread).

Generally, that is the way it works.

The interesting thing is often women are quicker to brand other women ****s and ****es than guys are.

 

[The Dark Defender]

i don't see using an adjective that fits what the person does as being insulting, i mean ive seen you be pretty unpleasant about Jessica Biel simply for existing, maybe not calling her a ****e but the remarks were not nice either.

The bottom line for me is that a girl that is sexual active is not a ****e, a porn chick is, i got no issue with em, may be awesome ppl and if ya see a few interviewed they revel in their ****e status.

Because of what that adjective represents in society.

I don't know what remarks you're referring, but I like Jessica Biel.

A girl being highly sexually active but not getting paid for it against a girl being highly sexually active and getting paid for it is a major difference between porn stars and non porn stars (many women end up in relationships with guys that don't like, often guys they like much less then porn stars do their partners).

 

[The Dark Defender]

The interesting thing is often women are quicker to brand other women ****s and ****es than guys are.

Oh I know, which is even worse, that's women being gender biased....against themselves.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Because of what that adjective represents in society.

I don't know what remarks you're referring, but I like Jessica Biel.

But in society there has to be some lines, otherwise how do we determine Nice/Mean, Selfish/Kind, Good/Evil, Classy/****e, all things have a flip side otherwise it would all be just one big mesh.

Maybe it was Jolie i was thinking of that you were pretty nasty about.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I don't think Classy/****e should even be grouped together since a persons sexuality, unless it's being used to cause direct harm to others, doesn't really make them classy or classless.

I don't care for Jolie, I don't recall insulting her for her sexuality though, and certainly not inulting her just for existing.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Oh I know, which is even worse, that's women being gender biased....against themselves.

Of course it's also possible that some women find the idea of casual sex or indeed filmed and paid for sex disgusting, Also in a time when women have fought for strong positions in the work place, some girls simply lay on their back, take one up the butt, swallow and get a big paycheck, they could well see that as setting women back, there are 2 sides to most stories.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I don't think Classy/****e should even be grouped together since a persons sexuality, unless it's being used to cause direct harm to others, doesn't really make them classy or classless.

I don't care for Jolie, I don't recall insulting her for her sexuality though, and certainly not inulting her just for existing.

Again i'd say that's a definition of good and bad not classy or a ****e, they have specific meanings, being classy doesn't make you nice, same as being a ****e doesn't make you a bad person.

My point was you based your view on her looks in the posts i read, so i don't see that as any less insulting than saying a girl that does 7 dudes on camera and gets paid is a ****e.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Someone can find just about anything disgusting, some people find black people disgusting and call them ******s when they're not doing harm to anyone. I'd put ****e on about the same level as that term based on its usage in society.

Because others make money more easily than you do can apply to many, many things, not just porn stars. I guess we should call athletes or actors ****es since they get paid far, far more than people in the medical field while often putting forth far, far less effort.

If anything, I'd say that's leaning towad jealousy.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Someone can find just about anything disgusting, some people find black people disgusting and call them ******s when they're not doing harm to anyone. I'd put ****e on about the same level as that term based on its usage in society.

Because others make money more easily than you do can apply to many, many things, not just porn stars. I guess we should call athletes ****es since they get paid far, far more than people in the medical field while often putting forth far, far less effort.

I'd say that's a line where we start talking about hate as opposed to disgusting, a ****e exsists unless we just start saying "hey that girl is screwing a bunch of guys in the middle of a park for money, but hey she's not a ****e" i mean you're suggesting we simply say there is no such thing as being ****ty or a ****e, racial hatred is different b/c you are born with your colour and race, you choose how to act.

That wasn't my point, i was talking from the perspective of why some females may think they are utter trash and setting back women's equality by being glorified hookers...Athletes train all year round and being good at a sport takes talent and dedication, being DP'd doesn't.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I'd say that's aline where we start talking about hate as opposed to disgusting, a ****e exsists unless we just start saying "hey that girl is screwing a bunch of guys in the middle of a park for money, but hey she's not a ****e" i mean you're suggesting we simply say there is no such thing as being ****ty or a ****e, racial hatred is different b/c you are born with your colour and race, you choose how to act.

That wasn't my point, i was talking from the perspective of why some females may think they are utter trash and setting back women's equality by being glorified hookers...Athletes train all year round and being good at a sport takes talent and dedication, being DP'd doesn't.

I don't think screwing a bunch of guys warrents a label at all, other than sexually active. No, I don't think there's such thing as a **** or ****e. I think it's a term used to do what I've been talking about throuhgout the past couple of pages and nothing more. I never call any woman that unless I'm in a horrible mood and just venting, and then I feel bad about afterwards (even if I don't like the woman).
I put them on the same level because they're terms often used as harsh personal attacks against people that aren't warrenting them by causing harm. Hatred and disgust aren't all that far off sometimes.

Women in the porn industry are putting forth effort too, they're acting, they're conveying things that they aren't really feeling and some are better at it than others. They're also sometimes doing things that they don't enjoy for the enjoyment of the viewers, as athletes and stage and film actors do.

I'd say females that label pornstars as utter trash for being pornstars, are trash themselves. Far less classy than those that they're attacking. Women's equality is being set back more by that type of labeling than it is by those that are being labeled with it.