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So, I'm pretty new around these parts. But I was reading some post a day or two back about how we needed more interesting threads, so I'm going to make an attempt here. Maybe it'll fail; it'll probably fail, but I have topics that I think are interesting, so I'm going to give it the ol' Oxford try.
Now, here's something that's happened recently that you may have heard about being on a comic book board. The current writer of Spider-Man, Dan Slott, had this super controversial idea for the book. Something about Spidey being Doc Ock or some ****. Tell you the truth, I don't know because I don't follow Spider-Man, never have, probably never will. The only real interesting thing to me about this is the reaction of Dan Slott to the reaction to this story.
See, Slott received a lot of death threats from Spidey nerds because of this. And Slott's response? Well, gosh darnit all, Dan Slott isn't going to take this. He rebutted to many people on his twitter, calling them out on being too extreme. The crème of the crop? He threatened to contact the cops on one guy. Yeah, no kidding, he did this.
I don't know how much of it came around in these comic forums, but I lurk over at CBR, and there was huge debates about how Slott did good by this. Huge, lengthy, heavy debates about how, by God, we shouldn't take cyber bullying. We need to call these bullies out. No one deserves to be threatened over the internet over a comic book storytelling.
Well, here's how I feel about it.
What a load of horse****.
It's not that I have a problem with Slott's reacting to these people. In fact, it's good that he did. My complaint? The horse**** I smell in all of this? His rebuttal was way too civil.
But hold on? Isn't that a good thing. No, I don't think so. And here's why.
Professionals who post in comic forums or open up their twitters (no one should have a twitter anyway, and you automatically get dangerously close to losing your artist status if you have one, but that's another topic) know that the anonymous style of the internet is a nasty place. And if they don't, they sure do figure out pretty ****ing quick. And comic book fandom? Horrible, disgusting, monstrous, hateful, cankerous nerds who get off on spewing bile on every aspect of the hobby that feeds their “lives”. That's a mean thing to say, but just look at many comic book web forums and you'll see it. Maybe it'll even look a little stable on the surface, but boy oh boy, as soon as one thing in their beloved franchise isn't to their liking...watch out. They become the worst of the stereotype (that isn't to say they aren't any perfectly good posters in this community, but most of the truly good ones abandon that **** when they get a girlfriend, as those are usually the ones capable of such, and start getting laid. This explains why I registered in '11, but quit posting so quickly , but also why I'm back now ).
So, what is the point I'm driving out? In all of Slott's reaction, as far as to my knowledge, he never told these death threaters, “Hey, shut up, you stupid ****. If you don't shut up, I'm going to write a story where Gwen Stacy comes back, then ****s the Green Goblin on Uncle Ben's grave while Peter watches, and then dies from excessive orgasm. Actually, hey that sounds like a great pitch to Marvel. BRB.”
I know what you're thinking, though. Oh, he's a professional, he's not going to stoop to that level. And you know, that's the problem. He's already stooped to that level. Really, below that level if he's doing it over twitter, since that's the lowest you can go. If you're going into that warzone, you better be goddamn ready. Call the cops? Are you kidding me. These are a bunch of ubber nerds who aren't going to do jack **** to you. If there's a legit threat, it's not going to matter who you call that person will try to act on you. Not that there is, by any means, but if we want to visit that fantasy, okay.
If a professional doesn't have the balls to do that, is afraid big papa DC or Marvel isn't going to like you being a potty mouth, or if you just don't want that image, there is a solution there: get off of the goddamn internet, or at least, off of web forums, twitter, or anything with comment systems and all that ****. A good example is Grant Morrison, another well-known comic writer. He had his own website with essays and web forums, but as soon as death threats came in about him writing X-Men, he pulled the plug and left it.
That's why I'm going to give praise to an unlikely source. Rob Leieild. If you don't know who that is, google it real quick. He was an artist big in the '90s, and he recently had an incident on tweeter where he was bashing people left and right, many other writers and artists replied, and he pretty much became a laughing stock, but he spoke his mind and hit hard with his words. Unapologetic, unprofessional, real old school rock 'n roll style. He came off like a fool, especially since he was a bashing artists who are infinitely better than him, but that's the backfire. Plus, he was attacking peers, not internet nerds who wanted to kill him because his art sucks. But it's that embraced internet nastiness, the no-holds barred approach, that deserves recognition.
To simply rebut with a “Hey, you can't do that” or use some hollow threat of “I'm going to call the cops, young man”, you frankly have no business doing what you're doing. It's not like you need to do it constantly like those trolls who have no life will do. Just a single, **inappropriate comment removed**, maybe followed by a “you are a lifeless little festering maggot who feeds on the phelgm I spit on this paper”, and then go about your way. Otherwise, keep off the internet and keep writing your stories without worry about what folks are saying on it. But if you're going to come here, it's old school rock 'n roll: no rules, no cares, only bile and hatred for no ****ing good reason. If that's not your style, the door to the classical concert is over there. Have fun, because it's better then this ****.
Anyway, that's my thoughts. If you've got any thoughts about anything said here, feel free to discuss. If not, you can just make fun of me for starting this thread. It's okay, I'm pretty rock 'n roll. Until the (potential) next topic, Be Seeing You.
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Now, here's something that's happened recently that you may have heard about being on a comic book board. The current writer of Spider-Man, Dan Slott, had this super controversial idea for the book. Something about Spidey being Doc Ock or some ****. Tell you the truth, I don't know because I don't follow Spider-Man, never have, probably never will. The only real interesting thing to me about this is the reaction of Dan Slott to the reaction to this story.
See, Slott received a lot of death threats from Spidey nerds because of this. And Slott's response? Well, gosh darnit all, Dan Slott isn't going to take this. He rebutted to many people on his twitter, calling them out on being too extreme. The crème of the crop? He threatened to contact the cops on one guy. Yeah, no kidding, he did this.
I don't know how much of it came around in these comic forums, but I lurk over at CBR, and there was huge debates about how Slott did good by this. Huge, lengthy, heavy debates about how, by God, we shouldn't take cyber bullying. We need to call these bullies out. No one deserves to be threatened over the internet over a comic book storytelling.
Well, here's how I feel about it.
What a load of horse****.
It's not that I have a problem with Slott's reacting to these people. In fact, it's good that he did. My complaint? The horse**** I smell in all of this? His rebuttal was way too civil.
But hold on? Isn't that a good thing. No, I don't think so. And here's why.
Professionals who post in comic forums or open up their twitters (no one should have a twitter anyway, and you automatically get dangerously close to losing your artist status if you have one, but that's another topic) know that the anonymous style of the internet is a nasty place. And if they don't, they sure do figure out pretty ****ing quick. And comic book fandom? Horrible, disgusting, monstrous, hateful, cankerous nerds who get off on spewing bile on every aspect of the hobby that feeds their “lives”. That's a mean thing to say, but just look at many comic book web forums and you'll see it. Maybe it'll even look a little stable on the surface, but boy oh boy, as soon as one thing in their beloved franchise isn't to their liking...watch out. They become the worst of the stereotype (that isn't to say they aren't any perfectly good posters in this community, but most of the truly good ones abandon that **** when they get a girlfriend, as those are usually the ones capable of such, and start getting laid. This explains why I registered in '11, but quit posting so quickly , but also why I'm back now ).
So, what is the point I'm driving out? In all of Slott's reaction, as far as to my knowledge, he never told these death threaters, “Hey, shut up, you stupid ****. If you don't shut up, I'm going to write a story where Gwen Stacy comes back, then ****s the Green Goblin on Uncle Ben's grave while Peter watches, and then dies from excessive orgasm. Actually, hey that sounds like a great pitch to Marvel. BRB.”
I know what you're thinking, though. Oh, he's a professional, he's not going to stoop to that level. And you know, that's the problem. He's already stooped to that level. Really, below that level if he's doing it over twitter, since that's the lowest you can go. If you're going into that warzone, you better be goddamn ready. Call the cops? Are you kidding me. These are a bunch of ubber nerds who aren't going to do jack **** to you. If there's a legit threat, it's not going to matter who you call that person will try to act on you. Not that there is, by any means, but if we want to visit that fantasy, okay.
If a professional doesn't have the balls to do that, is afraid big papa DC or Marvel isn't going to like you being a potty mouth, or if you just don't want that image, there is a solution there: get off of the goddamn internet, or at least, off of web forums, twitter, or anything with comment systems and all that ****. A good example is Grant Morrison, another well-known comic writer. He had his own website with essays and web forums, but as soon as death threats came in about him writing X-Men, he pulled the plug and left it.
That's why I'm going to give praise to an unlikely source. Rob Leieild. If you don't know who that is, google it real quick. He was an artist big in the '90s, and he recently had an incident on tweeter where he was bashing people left and right, many other writers and artists replied, and he pretty much became a laughing stock, but he spoke his mind and hit hard with his words. Unapologetic, unprofessional, real old school rock 'n roll style. He came off like a fool, especially since he was a bashing artists who are infinitely better than him, but that's the backfire. Plus, he was attacking peers, not internet nerds who wanted to kill him because his art sucks. But it's that embraced internet nastiness, the no-holds barred approach, that deserves recognition.
To simply rebut with a “Hey, you can't do that” or use some hollow threat of “I'm going to call the cops, young man”, you frankly have no business doing what you're doing. It's not like you need to do it constantly like those trolls who have no life will do. Just a single, **inappropriate comment removed**, maybe followed by a “you are a lifeless little festering maggot who feeds on the phelgm I spit on this paper”, and then go about your way. Otherwise, keep off the internet and keep writing your stories without worry about what folks are saying on it. But if you're going to come here, it's old school rock 'n roll: no rules, no cares, only bile and hatred for no ****ing good reason. If that's not your style, the door to the classical concert is over there. Have fun, because it's better then this ****.
Anyway, that's my thoughts. If you've got any thoughts about anything said here, feel free to discuss. If not, you can just make fun of me for starting this thread. It's okay, I'm pretty rock 'n roll. Until the (potential) next topic, Be Seeing You.
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