Pyramid Of Guitarists

[Whirlysplat]

hahaha, I fear this team-up will forever be confined to the realms of fantasy.

No Doubt

the awesome creativity and insane stage presence of these two weirdos would be great.

- Whirly

 

[The Chairman]

You watched woodstock?

We watched some of it in music class. I've heard some of their stuff on the radio. Quite good. I went to see The Who last night (and am seeing them again Tuesday), and my friend's dad was telling me I need to hear more. Truthfully, I need to.

 

[Snipershot]

i love hendrix, dimebag abbott, synyster gates, jimmy paige....

 

[Cyrusbales]

We watched some of it in music class. I've heard some of their stuff on the radio. Quite good. I went to see The Who last night (and am seeing them again Tuesday), and my friend's dad was telling me I need to hear more. Truthfully, I need to.

I used to love the who, but they just don't sound as good as they used to, shame. Woodstock is a VERY good starting point for great music, the best festival ever, easily. Although early Reading rock line-ups were good, rory galagher and such like.

 

[Dwarf lord]

Hendrix killed all along the watchtower??? What? I like hendrix's version, although Richie havens does a really good version, and so do the dilan project. Bob dilan was a good song writer, but a bad singer.

You mean Bob Dylan? And no. Bob Dylan is an unconventional singer. Not a bad one. There's more raw emotion in Mr. Dylan's voice than most singers of today and yesterday. He may not have a favorable voice quality to you, but at the technical level of singing, he's second to none.

 

[hippy fascist]

You mean Bob Dylan? And no. Bob Dylan is an unconventional singer. Not a bad one. There's more raw emotion in Mr. Dylan's voice than most singers of today and yesterday. He may not have a favorable voice quality to you, but at the technical level of singing, he's second to none.

Dylan's voice suits HIS songs, you can't compare him to the likes of dave lee roth or robert plant because it's not the same kind of stuff

 

[Cyrusbales]

You mean Bob Dylan? And no. Bob Dylan is an unconventional singer. Not a bad one. There's more raw emotion in Mr. Dylan's voice than most singers of today and yesterday. He may not have a favorable voice quality to you, but at the technical level of singing, he's second to none.

'Technically', he is ousted by many singers, his voice is sub par, but ok due to his high level of writing(second to few). As he got older, his voice became far worse, on his anniversery concert with loadsa special guests, he was one of the worst people. Most of his songs have been done better by other people.

 

[The Chairman]

You mean Bob Dylan? And no. Bob Dylan is an unconventional singer. Not a bad one. There's more raw emotion in Mr. Dylan's voice than most singers of today and yesterday. He may not have a favorable voice quality to you, but at the technical level of singing, he's second to none.

EXACTLY:

Dylan's voice fits the message and attitude his songs try to convey perfectly. To me, that's the mark of a truly great singer. If Dylan's songs were sung by someone of a higher vocal quality, the songs would lose so much of their rawness.

 

[The Chairman]

'Technically', he is ousted by many singers, his voice is sub par, but ok due to his high level of writing(second to few). As he got older, his voice became far worse, on his anniversery concert with loadsa special guests, he was one of the worst people. Most of his songs have been done better by other people.

Utter bull****. The only Dylan covers better than the originals are Hendrix's "All Along The Watchtower" and GNR's "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" (highly debatable). All the rest fall flat. Do you honestly think that The Byrds' well meaning but at the same time overproduced, somewhat whiny version of "Mr. Tambourine Man" beats the haunting simplistic beauty of Dylan's original?

Man, give me a break!

 

[Green Lantern]

*cough Clapton's "Knockin" blows GNRS outta the water cough*

 

[jaguarr]

You mean Bob Dylan? And no. Bob Dylan is an unconventional singer. Not a bad one. There's more raw emotion in Mr. Dylan's voice than most singers of today and yesterday. He may not have a favorable voice quality to you, but at the technical level of singing, he's second to none.

Actually, from a purely technical perspective, Dylan does absolutely everything you aren't supposed to as a singer. Doesn't mean that it doesn't work for him, but his overall technical approach to singing is awful.

jag

 

[The Chairman]

*cough Clapton's "Knockin" blows GNRS outta the water cough*

Clapton's version IMO is too upbeat. Great version, but I feel the most emotion from GNR's version. The phone call towards the end was a bit cheesy, though.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Utter bull****. The only Dylan covers better than the originals are Hendrix's "All Along The Watchtower" and GNR's "Knockin' On Heaven's Door" (highly debatable). All the rest fall flat. Do you honestly think that The Byrds' well meaning but at the same time overproduced, somewhat whiny version of "Mr. Tambourine Man" beats the haunting simplistic beauty of Dylan's original?

Man, give me a break!

Richie havens "just like a woman" and "all along the watch tower" and pretty much everything that the dylan project did! Elvis costello done a good verion of 'knocking on heavens door'.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Clapton's version IMO is too upbeat. Great version, but I feel the most emotion from GNR's version. The phone call towards the end was a bit cheesy, though.

GNR are terrible they butchered that song, and sypathy for the devil aswell. Axel rose is a terrible singer and should give up. Velvet revolver are like GNR but better in every way.

 

[hippy fascist]

Richie havens "just like a woman" and "all along the watch tower" and pretty much everything that the dylan project did! Elvis costello done a good verion of 'knocking on heavens door'.

Doesn't even compare, "knockin..." is the best example of dylans voice enhancing a song out of his entire back catalogue, the gruff raspy quality is a perfect compliment to the lyrical themes of the song

 

[The Chairman]

Richie havens "just like a woman" and "all along the watch tower" and pretty much everything that the dylan project did! Elvis costello done a good verion of 'knocking on heavens door'.

Sorry, wrong. No one can touch Dylan. Hendrix got by because he was a unique artist in his own right and managed to completely do something new with Dylan's song. Other than that, no one can touch what Dylan brings to his own recordings. I suppose you'd think "Hurricane" would become a far more powerful song if it were sung by say, Justin Timberlake, because his voice is more pleasing to the ears?

 

[The Chairman]

GNR are terrible they butchered that song, and sypathy for the devil aswell. Axel rose is a terrible singer and should give up. Velvet revolver are like GNR but better in every way.

I agree that they butchered "Sympathy For The Devil". But Axl's like Dylan. He's by no means a great singer in any sense of the word, but his voice fits the music perfectly. As for GNR being a terrible band, when Appetite For Destruction was released in 1988, Dylan and The Rolling Stones both praised the album.

 

[The Chairman]

Oh, and there's one more Dylan cover I need to single out:

Stevie Wonder's version of "Blowin' In The Wind". Like Hendrix's "AATW", it works because Stevie actually matches up to Dylan in all aspects of pure musical ability.

 

[Cyrusbales]

Sorry, wrong. No one can touch Dylan. Hendrix got by because he was a unique artist in his own right and managed to completely do something new with Dylan's song. Other than that, no one can touch what Dylan brings to his own recordings. I suppose you'd think "Hurricane" would become a far more powerful song if it were sung by say, Justin Timberlake, because his voice is more pleasing to the ears?

You're telling me you've heard richie havens covers and don't think they're better , you would be the only one....

 

[Cyrusbales]

Sorry, wrong. No one can touch Dylan. Hendrix got by because he was a unique artist in his own right and managed to completely do something new with Dylan's song. Other than that, no one can touch what Dylan brings to his own recordings. I suppose you'd think "Hurricane" would become a far more powerful song if it were sung by say, Justin Timberlake, because his voice is more pleasing to the ears?

HELL NO! Some of Bobby D's stuff is best sung by him, yes, but a lot of his stuff is better through other people, he isn't just the only emmotional singer, it's not as if Richie havens doesn't have an emmotional voice, he's recorded some of the most emotional songs to date!

 

[The Chairman]

You're telling me you've heard richie havens covers and don't think they're better , you would be the only one....

No, I haven't, and I don't need to. I'm too deep into Dylan to be convinced that anyone can touch the magic of what he brings to his song. If that makes me narrow minded or pretentious, than **** it, I'm proud to be.

 

[The Chairman]

HELL NO! Some of Bobby D's stuff is best sung by him, yes, but a lot of his stuff is better through other people, he isn't just the only emmotional singer, it's not as if Richie havens doesn't have an emmotional voice, he's recorded some of the most emotional songs to date!

Sorry, but you're wrong. Dylan's songs need to be sung by someone with a very raw, gritty quality of voice. I've heard some of Havens' stuff (love what he did to "Here Comes The Sun"), and he doesn't have it. Sorry, but you can't change my mind, so don't try.

 

[Cyrusbales]

No, I haven't, and I don't need to. I'm too deep into Dylan to be convinced that anyone can touch the magic of what he brings to his song. If that makes me narrow minded or pretentious, than **** it, I'm proud to be.

So your commenting on something you don't have any knowledge about, you do generally sound like you know what your talking about in threads, so I'll just put this one down to not being informed enough, seriously, as a music fan, listen to richie havens! One of the best guitarists and singers, he made up a brilliant song on the spot at woodstock. He is amazing, seriously, such a powerful voice, really moving.

 

[The Chairman]

So your commenting on something you don't have any knowledge about, you do generally sound like you know what your talking about in threads, so I'll just put this one down to not being informed enough, seriously, as a music fan, listen to richie havens! One of the best guitarists and singers, he made up a brilliant song on the spot at woodstock. He is amazing, seriously, such a powerful voice, really moving.

I agree, he's great. He was fantastic at Woodstock. I should get into him. But I doubt I'll like his "Just Like A Woman" better than Dylan's.

 

[Cyrusbales]

I agree, he's great. He was fantastic at Woodstock. I should get into him. But I doubt I'll like his "Just Like A Woman" better than Dylan's.

Well at least give it a try, if your open minded about it, then you might be surprised!