ChibiKiriyama said:
Okay...everybody seems to be rather positive, so I'll take a change from my own positive personality and offer my expectations for this film.
First of all...no man-in-suit. Please. Dear God in Heaven, no. The Hulk was awesome to all the casual fans of the first film, and the growth of the Hulk perfectly illustrated the fact that 'the madder The Hulk gets the stronger The Hulk gets'. The CGI Hulk in the first film was perfect. I visually saw in the theatres a man who was so large that I could picture him flinging people into the stratosphere one-handed with ease. Nothing Neanderthal or small to him. The growth also illustrated how boundless the limitations on his strength were. If this Hulk was just simply a small update here and there of the original you would be doing this project a great justice. And please, limit the 'Talking Hulk'. I would personally be disparaged if I saw the movie just beginning in the middle of a battle with the Hulk doing nothing but smashing things and yelling 'HULK STRONGEST ONE THERE IS!' I have nothing against Lou Ferrignou, but if you really want him to do voicework make it only slightly larger in verbatim than the first film. Honestly, I would be happy to hear whomever did the voice for the first film again. This isn't the LF Hulk, and shouldn't be treated as such.
Second issue- character development. The first film was easily one of the most awesome Marvel films from that standpoint because of it. When I saw Bana I could visualize him perfectly as a distraught Banner conflicted with the demon within himself and the destiny written for him. Connelly was a Betty who actually made me invest emotion into the film. Nolte felt like the evil father who has some good vestiges left within him. Everyone felt like they were meant for the role, and the most important thing was that there was ample room in the plot so that the action that we did see was amazing once we viewed it. What I'm getting from alot of the news on this film is that we're done with character development and now we're going to see a Hulk who just smashes things repeatedly while grunting out lines every 5 minutes, which (if true- I totally understand how people can misinterpret the slightest things) would be a horrid idea for a sequel. Ang made an awesome masterpiece that I could really see as one of my favorite films, and I just hope the second picks up on that.
Thirdly, I suppose I should address said rumors. As I've said, what I'm getting from most quotes is that we're forgetting what made the first good and placating fans who thought he should have 'smashed more stuff' when the first was already visceral and action-packed as it was. I'm also hearing that it will be difficult to tell if it's a restart or sequel, which isn't a positive thought to me. That the movie version of the Hulk is drastically different from the comics today was great. We got to see a Hulk who could look mad after taking a shell to the chest and pensively pondering over his old house while looking realistic the whole way through. Bringing a direct comic-book feel would kill this film, as it has done to so many films that try to go tit-for-tat to every letter of the comics. I also have to question the validity of the Abomination in this film. I know the Hulk's Rogue Gallery is thin, but I think the Abomination is a bit too soon if we're following the typical trilogy format. It makes one wonder if the third film will be a rehash, which isn't a positive thought.
Well, that's my suggestions. Can't say this has gone off on a good footing, as I haven't heard a great deal of positive things for this film. I would be incredibly happy, however, to come back after seeing this film and be able to post on SHH about how very wrong I was.
EDIT: *sigh* Baka...should have posted this at MySpace...
9/17/2006
Hmm... I'm a bit surprised to read that you liked the "the madder he gets, the taller he gets" aspect of the first film, considering how many fans overwhelming have stated they
didn't like that aspect of the movie, myself included. I admit the Hulk should be massive, but I love the seven-foot-tall version of the Hulk myself than the fifteen-foot version in the film.
I was also a bit shocked by some of the things you mentioned. A lot of the things you mentioned above were precisely what people didn't like about "Hulk" -- that it was too long, the gammasphere/nano-med combo origin of the Hulk rather than being bombared by gamma rays from Bruce's own gamma bomb, there wasn't enough action sequences and that Bruce Banner didn't even change into the Hulk until 40 plus minutes into the movie. Also, I hated was Nick Nolte's David Banner, because of the way he was written and that he was an Absorbing Man rip-off, as well as the Hulk dogs.
Seriously, when you think of having something for the Hulk to fight in his film debut, is an evil mutated poodle the first villain that comes to mind?
However, when I say shocked by your comments, I didn't mean it in a bad way. While I was very disappointed with "Hulk", I too liked the first movie, which can be easily misunderstood when I write about it.
Of the parts I liked from "Hulk", I especially loved the acting by Eric Bana and Jennifer Connelly. They gave very good performances, as did Sam Elliott as General Ross. One of my favorite scenes in the movie, aside from the tanks fight, is the scene in the streets where Betty Ross calms the Hulk down and he reverts back to Bruce Banner. Aside from the CGI, I loved the entire sequence -- the music, the cinematography, everything. It reminds me of the comics where missiles and guns are useless against the Hulk, but the one thing that stops him and gets to him is the presence of the woman he cares for.
I really do have high expectations for the new Hulk movie and I have been waiting for the Hulk to return to the big screen since the 2003 film. One of the best things about most Marvel sequels, such as "Spider-Man", is that they only get better and better with each film. I'm certain the Hulk's next film will be even bigger and better than Ang Lee's and wish Mr. Leterrier nothing but the best when they work on the next one.
'Nuff said.
Sincerely,
Stuart Green