R rated Ghost Rider movie

Discussion in 'Marvel Films' started by Silver Lantern, Dec 15, 2018.

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Should they do R rated Ghost Rider?

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  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Silver Lantern

    Silver Lantern comic nerd

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    Nicolas Cage believes as stated that there should be a hard reboot of this character and I think it would be awsome. With this rating, better design, horror elements, violence and great story and effects it could be awsome. Get Cage to star in this one again. View poll below.
     
  2. Silver Lantern

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    Looks as Norman Reedus ( walking dead actor) has interest to portray the new Ghost Rider in gory movie version but nothing confirmed. What are your thoughts?
     
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    BigThor God of Thunder

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    I say absolutely YES to an R Rated Ghost Rider film.

    As much as it pains me to say this, because of the past two films it might be better if the next GR film is about the Danny Ketch or Robbie Reyes version.

    This is coming from a HUGE Johnny Blaze fan, who in my opinion is THE definitive Ghost Rider.
     
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  4. Hello2016

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    I think a new actor for Ghost Rider as a franchise theater film would be the way to go. That being said, Thomas Jane's Punisher short years after no sequel to his film ever appeared seemed to get a strong reaction online. I see no reason why a short-film on a streaming platform wouldn't but it just doesn't seem to advance the Marvel brand with Nicholas Cage re-appearing but it would be fun.
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    This is slightly off-topic but I'll re-paste a post I made from the weird character thread for information sake about "Phantom Rider". Please don't think I'm advocating making a movie taking the name from Danny Ketch or Johnny Blaze as far as "Ghost Rider" is concerned (Weird characters that you actually would like to see in the MCU).
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    How about Marvel's original Ghost Rider? He rode a horse instead of a motorcycle
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    Marvel's Original Ghost Rider (named after golden age publisher Magazine Enterprise's Ghost Rider except including more aspects akin to the Lone Ranger than supernatural elements):
    Description of all 5 Phantom Riders mentioned above (as well as a team called the Rangers): Phantom Rider (Character) - Comic Vine
    Unchronlogical order of Appearances of this Marvel Character: Phantom Rider Comics - Comic Vine


    Original Non-Marvel Comics Ghost Rider: Ghost Rider (Character) - Comic Vine
     
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  5. Hello2016

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    Just some alternate options to consider that no one cares about until they're done:
    A) It's funny how in the 1960's Marvel originally borrowed the concept of Ghost Rider by amalgamating aspects of the Lone Ranger with that of the golden age "Magazine Enterprises" character (later re-booted directly in 1980's by AC comics) with no supernatural elements whatsoever.

    Later of course, supernaturals back so they try to infuse supernatural aspects into this character now re-named the "Phantom Rider" (re-named after Johnny Blaze's initial appearance). Anyway, I don't think it proper to make a movie about this character from Marvel. If anything the Magazine Enterprises or AC comics character would be the way to go. It's not Marvel so not as tied to a particular creative approach and a dark R-Rated supernatural gun slinging western would be kind of interesting I think. They'd just call the movie "The Haunted Horseman" instead of Ghostrider as AC Comics did so yeah I'm not advocating someone taking name Ghost Rider for themselves as Marvel of course owns copyright to that name now. This seems like a movie for Nu Image/Millennium films. IMDb: With Millennium Films (Sorted by Popularity Ascending) - IMDb

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    B) Then of course there's the Golden Age character Blazing Skull that sort of resembles Ghost Rider. Perhaps, Johnny Blaze was Marvels initial attempt to retcon this Golden Age character re-named taking the name Ghost Rider for himself. This character would be fun if a TV series about "The 12" (miniseries attempting to do a modern retcon of obscure golden age characters) is ever made but adapting anything else about this character would probably be a stretch.

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    C) Overall, if a theatrical released live action movie (not talking other mediums) is called Ghost Rider it must have Danny Ketch or Johnny Blaze though. R-Rated would work better I think with the loud motorcycle noise and metal kind of feel if that's what they're going for.

    Robbie Reyes feels like the character just kind of off so yeah he's Agents of Shield territory I kind of feel. If feel differently by all means would like to hear it.
     
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  6. Silver Lantern

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    It would be cool to see ghost rider or Phantom Rider in 1800s but with the white suit and hellblaze powers still set in the wild west telling more about Carter Slade and how he made the deal of San Vengaza and became the phantom rider attatched to the demon Zarathos to go against the devil and villain main character Centurious which then at end the passing to Johnny Blaze. Even get Sam Elliot to reprise role of Slade but the origins of him in dark R rating setting.
     
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    I don't really care if the next Ghost Rider project is R-rated or not. Just because something is R rated doesn't automatically make it good, the problem with the previous films was just that they were poorly written, adding more gore/language/nudity wouldn't make them any better films. Since there are a few superhero films with an R rating it does add some novelty to it.

    So I wouldn't say the next Ghost Rider needs to be R, it's certainally can be appropriate for it. The materially does work best with a darker edge and I think Agents of Shield nailed the tone while still being fine for network television.

    Personally I'd rather see Ghost Rider as a television show or miniseries, I think it would be interesting to have multiple riders and really delve into the mythology of the character.
     
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  8. ThePowerCosmic

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    I think the best route is to re-introduce Ghost Rider in the Midnight Sons. Johnny Blaze would star in the Midnight Sons films while Danny Ketch would gain the mantle in a solo franchise. In the future, Reyes would eventually become the Spirit of Vengeance in either a spin-off show or another movie trilogy.

    However, I don't think any of the aforementioned movies should be Rated-R.
     
  9. Flash525

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    Oh I definitely support an R Rated Ghost Rider film, but not with Nick Cage; he's long lost his relevance as an actor now. We need either someone new and upcoming, or someone who's already established and successful.
     
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    I don't see the House of Mouse gunning for an R-rated comic flick the way that Fox would.
     
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    I've actually pitched the idea of a horror Ghost Rider movie. Much like Halloween or Jeepers Creepers where you watch the movie from the pov of a criminals, mobsters etc being stalked the spirit of Vengeance.

    I feel Bright Burn will actually be a great template for the tone I would like to see.


    Also Todd McFarlanes description of how he want's his new Spawn movie to be sounds like the perfect R rated horror hero movie.
     
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    I like the idea of a Danny Ketch that's had the spirit of vengeance on him for years.and he's a hard boiled loner. Jason Aaron wrote a version of Ketch that was kinda like that.
     
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    I remember the Punisher Max comic sort of did that. Frank Castle very rarely spoke. Some narrative text would pop-up in little black boxes with ghostly font ingrained to go along with a full throttled no holds barred level of twistedness that makes me really wonder about Garth Ennis as he really knows how to peak through the mental barriers a reader may make for themselves and really disturb and bother to a degree.

    I think showing an unforgiving/unrelenting/1 beat/1 tone force of nature that just will not stop can really have a lot of different characters that play off of that. How long should this keep going though is a good question I found myself asking when reading through Punisher Max though...
     
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