RAMI "CONFIRMS" Sandman as....

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UNCLE BEN'S killer.

He said quote:

"One of the other villains [Sandman], we've tried to weave the story into Peter Parker's personal life in as important of a way as we could. In a way that will hopefully make more of the first two pictures. Give us insights into what we've seen before."

So, basically he said that Sandman was made to connect to Peter as being the murderer or atleast involved in the murder of Ben Parker. The scene shot is not a dream/nightmare sequence resulting from Peter's reaction from the symbiot.

That kind of bites.

-R
 
Dude, he never said Sandman. I think he was talking about Harry, seeing as their friendship was a part of his personal life.
 
theShape said:
Dude, he never said Sandman. I think he was talking about Harry, seeing as their friendship was a part of his personal life.
Yeah are you sure about Sandman killing Uncle Ben?
 
Robin91939 said:
UNCLE BEN'S killer.

He said quote:

"One of the other villains [Sandman], we've tried to weave the story into Peter Parker's personal life in as important of a way as we could. In a way that will hopefully make more of the first two pictures. Give us insights into what we've seen before."

So, basically he said that Sandman was made to connect to Peter as being the murderer or atleast involved in the murder of Ben Parker. The scene shot is not a dream/nightmare sequence resulting from Peter's reaction from the symbiote

I'm still sticking to this idea .
 
Raimi likes to have his villains somehow become involved in Peter's personal life. Well,he has the symbiote/Venom already doing that. Why would he have to include Sandman too? This whole "Sandman killed uncle Ben" angle is a little annoying,but it really doesn't bother me that much. At least not right now,anyway.
 
Spidro Man said:
Yeah are you sure about Sandman killing Uncle Ben?

Yes.

The question was along the lines of:
Q: The Batman films got lost when they introduced too many villains, how will Spider-man 3 differ from this?

A: Well, with Harry the first two pictures have set his story up, so it's really just finishing that story. [Then he said] One of the other villains [Sandman], we've tried to weave the story into Peter Parker's personal life in as important of a way as we could. In a way that will hopefully make more of the first two pictures. Give us insights into what we've seen before." [Then] The only character we are really introducing is the Brock character. But that's okay, Peter can meet new people.

So that takes care of all of the villains.
-Harry, finishing his arc.
-Sandman, new personal connection to Peter (killing Uncle Ben)
-Brock/Venom, new kid on the block.

-R
 
I really don't see the problem with it, and the general audience will probably eat it up. It's a good move for the cinematic front. Audiences love it when connections are made. People somehow feel smarter for realizing things like that.
 
Robin91939 said:
UNCLE BEN'S killer.

He said quote:

"One of the other villains [Sandman], we've tried to weave the story into Peter Parker's personal life in as important of a way as we could. In a way that will hopefully make more of the first two pictures. Give us insights into what we've seen before."

So, basically he said that Sandman was made to connect to Peter as being the murderer or atleast involved in the murder of Ben Parker. The scene shot is not a dream/nightmare sequence resulting from Peter's reaction from the symbiot.

That kind of bites.

-R

that doesn't "confirm" anything.

maybe Sandman was just working with Uncle Ben's killer? just because he's "connected" with Peter, does not in any way make him the killer. quit jumping to conclusions.
 
Robin91939 said:
Yes.

The question was along the lines of:
Q: The Batman films got lost when they introduced too many villains, how will Spider-man 3 differ from this?

A: Well, with Harry the first two pictures have set his story up, so it's really just finishing that story. [Then he said] One of the other villains [Sandman], we've tried to weave the story into Peter Parker's personal life in as important of a way as we could. In a way that will hopefully make more of the first two pictures. Give us insights into what we've seen before." [Then] The only character we are really introducing is the Brock character. But that's okay, Peter can meet new people.

So that takes care of all of the villains.
-Harry, finishing his arc.
-Sandman, new personal connection to Peter (killing Uncle Ben)
-Brock/Venom, new kid on the block.

-R

That's not what he said. You're greatly misquoting him, I believe.
 
theShape said:
That's not what he said. You're greatly misquoting him, I believe.
I just typed it STRAIGHT from the audio clips from SHH!.


You are greatly misunderstanding him.

-R
 
Mr. Credible said:
that doesn't "confirm" anything.

maybe Sandman was just working with Uncle Ben's killer? just because he's "connected" with Peter, does not in any way make him the killer. quit jumping to conclusions.
So, basically he said that Sandman was made to connect to Peter as being the murderer or atleast involved in the murder of Ben Parker. The scene shot is not a dream/nightmare sequence resulting from Peter's reaction from the symbiote.

I'm not jumping to conclusions. I said that he is EITHER the killer or INVOLVED with the killing. Never did I jump to conclusions.

-R
 
I thought the very same thing when I heard it, too... that he was talking about Sandman killing Uncle Ben
 
Prodigy said:
I thought the very same thing when I heard it, too... that he was talking about Sandman killing Uncle Ben
THANK YOU...lol.

-R
 
in ultimate spider-man, the symbiote messed with spider-man's mind, and he thought this criminal was the same guy who killed his uncle.

well in this movie spider-man has the symbiote, and we saw pictures of uncle ben being killed by flint marco with a white dream like background. It doesn't take a genius, to see where they got the idea.
 
A genius would know they'd shoot it in a studio if it was a dream sequence only.

I think it's real and this does sort of back it up. Venom won't have anything to do with parker in the last two movies. Harry's already been a part of peter's life since the start. so Sadman's the only new villain left to possibly be shown to have had any connection with peter in the past, which will show a different side to events we witnessed in the first film. Uncle ben will probably be shot by Flint Marko.
 
DIRECT TRANSCRIPT

Q: The Batman films faltered when they attempted multiple villains. How will this film pull that off? Also, with that love triangle you're going to introduce? So many characters, how do you deal with that?

A: Well, Spider-man comic books had all of these characters and succesfully interwove these stories. A lot of what we're doing isn't introducing elements. Like, if Harry Osborn does decide to seek vengeance upon Peter Parker for the death of his father, it's certainly something that has been set up in the first and second pitcure, it's more the conclusion of that. And as far as that [having too many characters], we have less work to do in the sense of not introducing all of these new people.
One of the other villains [Sandman], we've tried to weave the story into Peter Parker's personal life in as important of a way as we could. In a way that will hopefully make more of the first two pictures. Give us insights into what we've seen before.
I think only with, probably with the Brock character is there like a complete new introduction of elements into Peter's life. But that's okay, I think, becuase he can meet new people too." -Sam Rami (btw, who asked "Who the hell is RAMI?" )

He was CLEARLY done talking about Harry when he was talking about Sandman. He said that SANDMAN would have a connection woven into Peter's personal life that will bring, new meaning to the first two movies.

-R
 
Wesyeed said:
A genius would know they'd shoot it in a studio if it was a dream sequence only.

I think it's real and this does sort of back it up. Venom won't have anything to do with parker in the last two movies. Harry's already been a part of peter's life since the start. so Sadman's the only new villain left to possibly be shown to have had any connection with peter in the past, which will show a different side to events we witnessed in the first film. Uncle ben will probably be shot by Flint Marko.

I think it was in a studio. there was no background, no sky, no buildings. We weren't present so we don't know where it was shot. and besides how do you know they would shoot it in a studio? I personally think these pics were leaked on purpose, most of them. I mean look how close that guy was to the set, and it's not like there was a bunch of people standing around. you'd think they would notice a guy with a camera that close up pointed at chuch's head.

and why do dream sequences have to be shot ina studio? what's so special about dream sequeneces that they can't be shot outside of a studio?

you do know that background is identical to the dream sequence in the second movie with uncle ben right?
 
Spider-Bite said:
I think it was in a studio. there was no background, no sky, no buildings. We weren't present so we don't know where it was shot.
I'm pretty sure it was shot on the streets of New York City.

-R
 
Robin91939 said:
I'm pretty sure it was shot on the streets of New York City.

-R

why are you pretty sure? you know quite often stuff is shot indoors on a stage, and made to look like it's outdoors.
 
I refuse to believe Raimi would do something like that. He won't trivialize Spidey's ENTIRE origin having had him go after (and even KILL) the wrong guy. I'm not trusting that Raimi "meant" the Sandman in that quote. I'll believe it when I see the movie. Even if it's true, Sandman will NOT be made the killer, he'll have been an accomplise, nothing more.

But then, where did Marko go after the murder? Wouldn't he stick with The Burgler? It doesn't add up.

Hell, even if it IS true, I'll live. It's just a movie.
 
DocLathropBrown said:
I refuse to believe Raimi would do something like that. He won't trivialize Spidey's ENTIRE origin having had him go after (and even KILL) the wrong guy.


He didn't kill him.:confused:
 
Spider-Bite said:
why are you pretty sure? you know quite often stuff is shot indoors on a stage, and made to look like it's outdoors.

No, he's right. That scene was shot outside in New York. The bright light was just in the backround of the pics coming from the spotlight that lit up the scene. We won't see that in the movie.
 

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