Rank and Review all 5 Batfilms.

[JackBauer24]

1. Batman Begins
By far and away the best of the Batman movies. I've seen it 6 times in the cinema now and I just can't get over how much I love this film. It's well-written, beautifully shot, wonderfully directed and impeccably cast. Of all the Batfilms, BB is the fastest-paced, has the best story, the best acting, the most well-rounded characters and the most action. The genius is that it takes itself so seriously and tells its story so well and with such conviction. It takes courage to do this as it's easy to enjoy a film for camp value. BB has none of this. It has emotion, suspense and drama.

2. Batman Returns
I know this is hated by many Batfans, but I'm rating them as movies and not as comic-book adaptations. I just love it when Burton goes gothic (big Sleepy Hollow fan) and it doesn't come much more macabre than this. It's a visual feast and is definitely the most beautiful of all the films (in an eerie sort of way). Danny Devito's Penguin isn't that great a character and an abominable adaptation but he plays it with some verve at least. Michelle Pfeiffer as Catwoman is perfect I think, I just love her and she and Keaton have great chemistry. She is definitely the best love interest the series had (including Rachel), probably because she served other functions in the plot. The whole end with the rocket penguins is quite silly I admit but I'll forgive it because the movie also has Christopher Walken.

3. Batman
A great first adaptation, about as good as could have been hoped then. Love Batman's introduction at the beginning. This movie is probably the closest to the original Bob Kane interpretation of Batman. Keaton is well-cast and the whole mystery surrounding Batman is intriguing. My big problem with the movie is the fact I think Nicholson was miscast as the Joker (and written badly). Simply, he was too old and fat. He'd have been a good Joker in his prime but he was just too... fat, I'm sorry. Plus, the Joker isn't meant to be a gangster. Didn't like the interpretation at all. But that aside, Batman '89 is still a damn fun movie to watch.

4. Batman & Robin
People are going to hate me for this. But let me get this straight before I go on - it IS rubbish. I KNOW it's rubbish. B&R is complete and utter cinematic garbage, yes. It's total defemation of the character. But it's just SO bad, SO over the top that at times I can't help but laugh. I think you need to be in the right mood to enjoy this movie for what it is... a pantomime. The special effects are decent, Arnie is funny (if you enjoy watching Arnie act badly, as I do - not because of his lines) and I don't care who she's playing, Uma Thurman is HOT. The only thing genuinely good about the movie is Michael Gough, who deserved better. Trash, but entertaining trash.

5. Batman Forever
Now the reason this comes bottom (and it was a close call) is because the only thing worse than complete garbage a movie can be is mediocre. Boring. Nothing really worthy of great positive or great negative note. Val Kilmer was so boring I forgot he was in the movie. Tommy Lee Jones was AWFUL (and didn't have the luxury of entertaining cheesiness a la Arnie) and Jim Carrey wasn't hot (a la Uma). I mean they were both rubbish, but B&R had more explosive and ridiculous action. At least it could be enjoyed on a pantomime level. This couldn't. Boring.

 

[The Chairman]

Here are the reviews I did at amazon.com


For B89 (rating: 5 stars)

I have to say that as much I loved "Batman Begins", the original 1989 movie "Batman" is still undoubtedly my favorite (followed by "Begins" and "Batman Returns"). Tim Burton really gave the Dark Knight the respect he deserved, as he created the greatest superhero movie ever.

Right from the opening scene, involving a family being attacked by vicious thugs on the crime infested streets of Gotham, there is no doubt you're in for a wild thrill ride. The basic plot is like this. Batman (Michael Keaton) is a vigilante out to thwart the criminals that permeate throughout the city of Gotham. His secret identity, introverted millionaire Bruce Wayne, is a shy, mild mannered businessman and the last person anyone would expect to be Batman. Meanwhile, Jack Napier (Jack Nicholson) is a high ranking henchman for well respected crime boss Carl Grishom (Jack Palance). When Grishom finds out Napier is involved with his girlfriend Alicia (Jerry Hall), he sets Napier up by sending him to raid the Axis Chemical Plant, only to report him to the police. Of course, Batman has also learned about the job, and is out to stop Napier as well. However, Batman is not about killing people, just about defeating the bad guys. But when he tries to save Napier from falling into a vat of chemicals, the mobster's hand slips and he falls into a vat of slimy, green goo. This makes Batman public enemy number one, as many people believe he's just as dangerous as the criminals he's fighting. Many people assume Napier's dead. However, he turns out to be alive, except his nerves are completely severed, leaving him smiling permanently from ear to ear, his skin has been bleached white (insert Michael Jackson joke here) and his hair has been dyed green. He adopts a new persona: The Joker. Napier kills Grishom and takes over his empire. He plans to poison the good people of Gotham with his Smilex gas, the same chemical that morphed him into The Joker. Batman, of course, will stop at nothing. Also involved in this tangled web is beautiful photo journalist Vicki Vale (Kim Basinger), who is obsessed with finding out who Batman is and is also involved with Bruce Wayne, causing the millionaire to become involved in an intense struggle with duality. To make matters worse, The Joker also has his eye on Vale. Though it may seem like a rather crowded plot, the plotlines mesh together very well and all adds up to a stunning climax that pays homage to "Vertigo" (though I'm not sure if that was what Tim Burton was aiming for).

So, how does everything add up? This film is excellent. Everyone involved put in 100 % effort. Keaton remains the definitive Batman. Don't get me wrong, Christian Bale was great, but I just found Keaton alittle more realistic and believable. Though not as effective as Michelle Pfeiffer, Kim Basinger looked gorgeous and remains the second best Batman leading lady. And of course, Jack Nicholson was brilliant as the Joker. He's the only one who could ever do this part. I feel sorry for Sean Penn, who's might be playing the character in the "Batman Begins" sequel. He's a good actor, but nobody can live up to Nicholson.

Tim Burton brilliantly directed this movie. I feel that his two "Batman" movies are his best works. The special effects and the Oscar winning sets bring the dark feel of the comic books to life. Even if everything else about this film was horrendous, these two elements alone would get me to watch this film alone. And of course, there's Danny Elfman's amazing score. This is Elfman's best score. I hope they find a way to bring it back into the new "Batman" franchise. The Prince music is also great, especially "Partyman" and the smash hit "Batdance".

If you enjoyed "Batman Begins", then you must see "Batman" (and "Batman Returns") since it is every bit as good as the new one. Either way, all three rank among the best superhero movies ever made.

For BR (rating: 5 stars):

It seemed unaccomplishable, but Tim Burton made a sequel to his 1989 masterwork "Batman" and came up with a sequel that was even better than the original. I initially wrote that the first one was the best, however, I find myself watching "Batman Returns" a hell of a lot more than that one. I still love the first one, but I feel this one was better.

"Batman Returns" follows the Dark Knight (Michael Keaton in another top notch performance) trying to stop not one, not two, but three villians this time around. First there's the sinister, sewer-dwelling Penguin (real name: Oswald Cobblepot) (Danny DeVito in a role he was born to play), a groteseque, birdlike man who with the help of corrupt businessman Max Shreck (a brilliantly cast Christopher Walken), has fooled Gotham into thinking he is a lonely man looking for love. The citizens buy his sob story and Max and Oswald start a campaign to get the Mayor of Gotham out of office and have Oswald be mayor. And there's the sizzling, vengeful Catwoman (Michelle Pfeiffer, easily the best of all of Batman's leading ladies in terms of acting as well as sex appeal), the former Selina Kyle, a bitter former secretary who was supposedly killed by Max Shreck (her boss) when she found out about his plan to poison Gotham's energy supply (which Shreck plans to carry out when Oswald becomes mayor). Add to that Batman's alter ego Bruce Wayne becoming romantically involved with Kyle (the real Catwoman), and you definitely got a real barnburner on your hands. It's nonstop thrills and excitement that only Burton can provide, and it all culminates in an unforgettable sewer showdown.

The real reason I loved this film was that it was much darker and had an even greater comic book feel to it. The first one was dark, but Jack Nicholson's Joker brought a certain lightlness to it that kept it from getting too dark and depressing. That approach would not have worked for the first film of the series. However, it made much more sense to add a darker approach to the sequel, and Burton did it perfectly. The cast delivers excelent performances (Keaton is even better here than in the last one), especially Pfeiffer, who steals the show as Catwoman. Though the Academy Awards don't generally consider comic book/superhero movies for major awards, I felt Michelle Pfeiffer deserved consideration for Best Actress for her role. It's a stretch, but then again who expected Marissa Tomei to be nominated (let alone win) for "My Cousin Vinny"? Stranger things have happened.

As much as I love the first "Batman", I have to say this one is the best "Batman" movie (better than "Begins") as well as perhaps best superhero movie ever, with "Batman" and "Batman Begins" tying for a close second. It's a shame that Tim Burton handed the reigns over to Joel Schumacher, who nearly destroyed the series. It's a shame that Christian Bale and Christopher Nolan weren't making films in 1995.

For BF (rating: 2 stars):

Burgess Meredith one said in "Grumpier Old Men", "you can wish in one hand and crap in the other and see what gets filled up first". This phrase easily applies to "Batman Begins", the third film in the "Batman" series and the first directed by Joel Schumacher. In other words, no matter how hard you wish to find something of value or enjoyment out of this film, you will always comeup empty.

"Batman Forever" finds our hero (Val Kilmer) battling two formidable foes, Two-Face (Tommy Lee Jones), a former district attorney who became disfigured thanks to Batman (at least according to him) and decides the fate of his prey with one flip of a coin, and The Riddler (Jim Carrey), a crazed scientist bent on controlling people's minds and reading their thoughts and stealing their intelligence. Plus, Batman has a new girlfriend, Dr. Chase Meridean (Nicole Kidman), and also a sidekick, Dick Grayson, aka Robin (Chris O'Donnell). However, despite a workable story and an outstanding cast (Kilmer and O'Donnell not withstanding), this film falls miserably flat.

One aspect that fails is Schumacher's attempt to brighten up Gotham City. Gone is the dark, sinister, crime-ridden city that was in "Batman" and "Batman Returns". Tim Burton's gothic vision has been turned into a colorful metropolis rather than a violent hellhole. One thinks that since Burton was actually involved in this film (he was the producer) there would be at least a trace of gothic, but no! Burton and Warner Brothers gave Schumacher full creative control, allowing him to drive the "Batman" legacy into the ground with this film and 1997's "Batman And Robin" (more on that debacle later).

As I said earlier, the cast is very good. However, that's just going by the big names, rather than the acting. Val Kilmer ties with George Clooney as the worst Batman ever. He can't even deliver his lines when he's in the Batusit half the time! He is stiff and uninteresting, and also does not do Bruce Wayne well, either. In order to play Batman, you have to treat Batman and Bruce Wayne as two separate characters, since their personallities differentiate drastically. Nicole Kidman, while very beautiful int his film, is without a doubt the weakest of all of Batman's girlfriends (Elle MacPherson not withstanding). Chris O'Donnell proved to be a servicable Robin until one line: "Holy Rusted Metal Batamn". Ugh! Why, Joel, why did you have to put thsi line in? While he is a great actor and an Oscar winner, I could never really buy Tommy Lee Jones as Two-Face. However, there's one actor who reescues the whole movie from being completely unbearable. The role of The Riddler seemed tailor made for Jim Carrey, much like The Joker was for Jack Nicholson and The Penguin for Danny Devito. Needless, Carrey lives up to all expectations, as he gives an excellent performance as the character. He saves this film from being a one star movie.

Though Carrye is worht watching, I'd suggest renting it before buying it. It is not somethign you'd want to own in your dvd collection if you don't particularly enjoy it. Defintiely a hit or miss affair.

For B & R (rating: 1 star)

When this film was released in 1997, it was immediately judged as a disaster, and many called it the end of Batman. And when you watch "Batman & Robin", it's no question why: this film is, to say the least, dreadful. Schumacher took all the bad elements of "Batman Forever" and put even more emphasis on them: the bad cast, the campiness (seriously, this film makes "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" seem like "Citizen Kane") and the transformation of Gotham from a sinister underworld into a metroploitan discoteque.

In this fourth entry in the series, Batman (George Clooney) and Robin (a returning Chris O'Donnell) battle new enemies: the cold-hearted (no pun intended) Mr. Freeze and the venemous temptress Poison Ivy (Uma Thurman, the least attractive and least talented of all Batman's leading ladies). They also add a new member to the team, Batgirl (Alicia Silverstone, who manages to be above average eye candy in this otherwise unenjoyable flick). Put these lifeless elements altogether, and you have one of the worst movies ever made.

As I said, the cast is mercifully awful. Clooney is the worst Batman and Bruce Wayne ever. He is uncapable of capturing any depth or emotion for the character(s). For a good example of this, which as he smiles when he delivers the news that Alfred (Michael Gough) is dying. Chris O'Donnell reprises his role as Robin and he's worse than before. He is flacid and utterly annoying. Alicia Silverstone, while something to look at, cannot act. She is terrible. Uma Thurman never really grabbed my attention either. And then there's Arnold Schwarzenegger as Mr. Freeze. Well, like Danny DeVito when he was cast as the Penguin, physically the Govenator is perfect to play the bulky Mr. Freeze. However, as far as acting goes, he's about as appealing as a dead cockroach. Add to that an endless string of horrible one-liners like "You're not sending me to the cooler" and "let's kick some ice", and you've got the film's worst villian ever. This is really sad because Mr. Freeze is possibly Batman's most deep and interesting foe. Unlike the criminal Joker or the outcast Penguin, Mr. Freeze, was once a well respected member of society, a world famous doctor. Hpwever, he went insane when he was unable to cure his wife from MacGregor's Syndrome, so he cryogenically froze in hopes she would come back again. When he fell into a freezing vat of liquid, he became mad at how Gotham left him and his wife to die and he went out to seek revenge.

Like "Batman Forever", Gotham has been transformed from a gothic crimebase to a day-glo heaven. It looks like a regular American city. Sheesh, no wonder Tim Burton bolted after co-producing "Batman Forever". His perfect vision was ruined.

If you like cheesy special effects, shallow storytelling (and that's being nice) and flacid acting, than this film is without a doubt for you. But if you enjoy the "Batman" legacy and want something truly gratifying, then get "Batman" and "Batman Returns" on dvd and go see the excellent new movie "Batman Begins". You're lightyears better off, believe me.

 

[The Chairman]

Here's the one for Begins (5 stars):

I would like to start my review by saying I'm a huge fan of the original, or Tim Burton-Michael Keaton, "Batman" movies. However, I felt that the Joel Schumacker films were lacking in emotional depth as well as quality actors and leaned to heavily in special effects and not on storyline. After the debacle that was 1998's "Batman And Robin", it semmed that the "Batman" series had died. However, a director named Christopher Nolan decided to have a go with reviving the series.

Well, needless to say, Nolan succeeds admirably with "Batman Begins", a prequel of sorts that is every bit as good as "Batman" and "Batman Begins". Nolan really proves him the worthy successor to Burton. Here a few resons why this is the best "Batman" in ages.

*the script is brilliant. It really shows Bruce Wayne's transformation from a man f driven to insanity over the death of his parents into the Dark Knight out to save Gotham City
*the cast is excellent. Christian Bale fits the role of Batman/Bruce Wayne like a glove. He does just as good as Keaton did while adding his own edge to the role. Add to that Liam Neeson, Morgan Freeman, Katie Holmes, Michael Caine (who in my opinion should have been the original Alfed in the Burton films) and especially Gary Oldman (who plays Commisioner Gordon (here a chief) to a tee and also has the best line in the movie ("I gotta get me one of those")), you have the best and most talented cast since "Batman Returns"
*there's the right balance between focus on special effects and focus on storyline. They intertwine perfectly here, a stark contrast to the overblown "Batman Forever" and "Batman And Robin"
*the ending is absolutely perfect. It won't tell you exactly what happens but I can tell you that many fans will be delighted that it means a sequel just may well be in the works.

These are just a few of the reasons why this ranks along with the first two "Batman's" as one of the greatest super hero films ever. There is pretty much nothing wrong with it. The only things like about I didn't like were this.

*there were one or two parts that I didn't understand. They were nothing major and not worth mentioning
*lack of a big star as the main villian. Part of the whole reason that the first two films in the series worked is because they always got a really good, famous (ie, as or more famous than the one who plays "Batman") actor to play the villian. Jack Nicholson (as the Joker) and Danny DeVito (the Penguin) were especially excellent. Heck, even Tommy Lee Jones and Jim Carrey were good in their respective roles (Two Face and the Riddler). (I never liked Uma Thruman and Arnold Schwarzenegger). Liam Neeson was a villian, but not the main villian. The main villian, the scarecrow, was played by an actor whose name I don't even know.

Other than these unimportant complaints, this is an excellent movie. If you see only one film this year, make it this one.

 

[Kevin Roegele]

1. Batman Returns (1992)
2. Batman (1989)
3. Batman Forever (1995)
4. Batman Begins (2005)
5. Batman the Movie (1966)
6. Batman & Robin (1997)

 

[Mister J]

1. Batman Begins
2. Batman
3. Batman Returns
4. Batman Forever


96. Abomination '97

 

[Milkman95]

1. Batman Begins, easily. After watching the other one's again multiple times, BB just has the better story, acting, and has heart.
2. Batman
3. Batman Returns
4. Batman Forever
5. Batman & Robin
6. Batman 1966

If MOTP can be counted, I'd put that tied with BB...........

 

[Cain]

Well the title said "Batfilms" not "Live action Batfilms"
I don't have time to go into detail & review the films right now so I'll just drop my list.

1) Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm
2) Batman Returns
3) BATMAN
4) Batman Begins
5) Batman Forever

 

[Two-Face]

1. Batman Begins-finally someone understood the character who is not second supporting character to his villains, Ra's Al Ghul and The Scarecrow weren't over the top with cheesey lines. It was all about Batman himself. When Batman sneeked behing the thug whisper saying "here" Gordon and batman meet in the rooftop and shows Joker callingcard awsome 9/10

2. Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm - Again other great Batman movie before BB was released this was my favourite Bat-movie still is after BB, Bruce falling in love with a woman turned out to be The Phantasm all long. 8/10

3. Batman (1989) - This is great movie by Tim Burton but he heavily focused on The Joker he nearly forgot about Batman. Nicholson had the best lines in the movie with Keaton been supporting role when suppose to be about title character. There are great moments opening scene with Dark Knight saying "I'm Batman" Batman crushing though the museum window saving Vicki with Batmobile been chased by the Joker goons great stuff. 7/10

4. Batman Forever - If Joel Schumacher went with Burton style and filmed what Janet Batcher wrote without Akiva Goldsman adding this movies could been better then Burton's Bat-movies. The opening scene with Bruce suiting up and then Batman trying to stop Two-Face, Schumacher should have used Two-Face as main villain with Riddler as supporting character. 7/10

5. Batman Returns - This good movie by Tim Burton, it seemed Returns wasn't sequel to original movie like Gotham changed a lot. I like Bruce waiting in Wayne Manor and Batman looking ahead from the top of building. I though Max Shrack was waste of space Harvey Dent should been in Returns. 6/10

 

[Carter]

Batman Begins
Batman
Batman Returns
MOTP
BAtman Forever
Batman 1940's movie serials
Batman 1966
Any fan film


















Batman and Robin

 

[Tobiaswins]

Here is my order.


#1.) BATMAN BEGINS.: This movie plain and simple just rocked! Awesome acting, Awesome Action, Awesome story, it really brought Batman to life, and in a way, you almost get inside Batman's head. Batman is the main character, it's all about batman, and yet there was still plenty of room for the villians ("shoemaker I hope your takeing notes"). Overall the best Batman to date!

#2.) Batman 89. :This movie was great, Keaton was great, and the Joker was great. The only problem was that the Joker outshined Batman, but that's mainly because of Jack Nicholson's performance. This movie had such a great impact on the General public, because a lot of people never touched a Batman Comic and probobly had most of their Batman memories from the 1960's show, I know I did. And then Batman 89 came out, and really took people by surprise, most people were probobly waiting for a good Batman movie to come around to erase those memories of
POW! ZAP! ZOWIE!, and this movie did just that. So this comes in 2nd behind Batman Begins.

#3.) Batman Returns. :I got mixed feelings about this one, Batman was great, Catwoman was great, the penguin was..well..okay. The Gothic feel to the movie was very good. However the whole thing with the huge rubber duckie and penguins with Rockets on their backs attacking the city was kinda lame. This movie was okay, not bad, but not great either.
Batman Returns places 3rd.

#4.) Batman Forever. :This was a bad movie period. I can only think of a few good things about it. There were so many dumb things about the movie, it really seems like a 10 year old wrote it at times. Shoemaker really screwed this one up. That's why this movie comes in at 4th.

#5.) Batman and Robin. : And coming in at dead last
("even though it doesn't deserve it.") Is Batman and Robin, and unlike Batman Forever, I can't even think of a single good thing about it, not a single thing. This movie was just CRAP CRAP CRAP, way to go Shoemaker!
This Crapfest comes in dead last.

Well there are my reviews, feel free to disagree with me if you want, it's all good.

peace.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

(spacing is significant)

1. Batman 2. Batman Begins
3. Batman Returns

4. Batman Forever




























5. Batman & Robin.

 

[Kmack]

The BEST
1. Batman Begins
2. Batman Returns
3. Batman (1989)
4. Batman Forever
5. Batman and Robin
6. Batman (1966)

My Personal Favorites
1. Batman Returns
2. Batman Begins
3. Batman (1989)

 

[Mr.E.Nygma]

1.b89,br,bf,bb
2.b&r

 

[Wattshout]

1. Batman Begins
2. Batman (1989) / Batman Forever
3. Batman (1966)
4. Batman Returns
5. Batman and Robin

 

[Sabotage8475]

This is easy:

Batman Returns
Batman
Batman Begins
Um..

Batman Forever?
Batman & Robin?

 

[Tornado]

Tough:

1. Batman Begins
2. Batman
3. Batman Returns
4. Batman Forever
5. Batman and Robin

 

[jacob301]

1) Batman Returns A+
2) Batman A-
3) Batman Begins C+
4) Batman Forever D+
5) B&R F

JACOB

 

[Voyeur]

Batman Begins (A+)...Dark, chilling, intriguing, brilliant cast, smart script. Finally, the Batman I know and love!


Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (B-)...A decent representation of the animated series, although many of the episodes surpass this film!

Batman '89 (C+)...Terrible script, questionable overall decision-making, but at least they brought Batman to the big-screen!

Batman '66 (C)...Hey, it was camp and made no excuses or apologies!

Batman Returns (D)...Selina Kyle brought to life by cats? Penguin playing around on a miniature Batmobile?

Batman & Robin (F)...JB24 has a great point, it's so bad it's almost funny!

Batman Forever (F-)...I used to rank this higher than B&R but the film is dull and stupid and what they did with Two-Face is unforgiveable! Of course B&R is guilty of the same thing, but this was more disappointing!

 

[Guason]

What a ridiculous post the last one was.

1.- Batman Returns
2.- Batman Mask of the Phantasm
3.- Batman A man who dresses up like a bat at night to scare the hell out of criminals? A man who falls into acid and suddenly becomes a clown who hates beauty and believes himself to be an artist?
4.- Batman Begins A man who´s afraid of bats but ends dressing like a bat? A man who always tells his evil plans to the hero? A man who is a ***** and wears a mask to scare people?
5.- Batman Forever
6.- Batman & Robin

Don´t get me wrong, It´s just I found the last post to be so ridiculous.
I like all of them except Batman and Robin which I don´t even hate.

 

[Voyeur]

Don´t get me wrong, It´s just I found the last post to be so ridiculous.

That's just the way I feel about the films...I believe that is the point of this particular thread. I seem to be able to disagree with other's without calling their posts ridiculous.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

Batman '89 (C+)...Terrible script, questionable overall decision-making, but at least they brought Batman to the big-screen!

B89 had a decent script. If you think it was bad, you should have seen the original one.

Batman Returns (D)...Selina Kyle brought to life by cats? Penguin playing around on a miniature Batmobile?

Watch the movie again. She survives the fall and isn't brought to life by cats.

Batman Forever (F-)...I used to rank this higher than B&R but the film is dull and stupid and what they did with Two-Face is unforgiveable! Of course B&R is guilty of the same thing, but this was more disappointing!

First, There is no F-. You can't get below failing. BF IS a better move than B&R. BF's villains were much more tolerable than Awnold Freeze and thug Bane.

 

[Voyeur]

B89 had a decent script. If you think it was bad, you should have seen the original one.

The dialogue in particular never rang true for me.

Watch the movie again. She survives the fall and isn't brought to life by cats.

First of all, I don't think I can bring myself to watch it again, secondly she falls from an impossible height...cat's from everywhere start to lick her fingers and face (it's been a while so let me know if I'm wrong) as she starts to twitch and revive...then becomes a slightly different person. Whether the bring her back to life or not, it's all a bit supernatural for me.

First, There is no F-. You can't get below failing. BF IS a better move than B&R. BF's villains were much more tolerable than Awnold Freeze and thug Bane.

You never saw the grades I got in Biology class!

Seriously, I give it an F- because in my book BF and B&R both "fail" but BF fails worse, thus I give it an even worse rating than F...Maybe in school there's no such grade, but I'm not in school any more...thank God.

 

[Guason]

That's just the way I feel about the films...I believe that is the point of this particular thread. I seem to be able to disagree with other's without calling their posts ridiculous.

Like a man who dressed as a bat wasn´t ridiculous enough?
Your post is still ridiculous.

 

[Guason]

The dialogue in particular never rang true for me.



First of all, I don't think I can bring myself to watch it again, secondly she falls from an impossible height...cat's from everywhere start to lick her fingers and face (it's been a while so let me know if I'm wrong) as she starts to twitch and revive...then becomes a slightly different person. Whether the bring her back to life or not, it's all a bit supernatural for me.



You never saw the grades I got in Biology class!

Seriously, I give it an F- because in my book BF and B&R both "fail" but BF fails worse, thus I give it an even worse rating than F...Maybe in school there's no such grade, but I'm not in school any more...thank God.

If yo watched again you´d notice several awakenings break her fall, the re-born is metaphorical, Why am I saying this to close minded guy who rejects to see more than what´s showed? It´s either ridiculous or awesome for you.

 

[Voyeur]

If yo watched again you´d notice several awakenings break her fall, the re-born is metaphorical, Why am I saying this to close minded guy who rejects to see more than what´s showed? It´s either ridiculous or awesome for you.

Close minded? I gave the movie plenty of chances when it came out. But, frankly, I've seen enough. You can't seriously watch that scene with the cats and think that Burton didn't intend some degree of supernatuality? Why did all the cats show up out of nowhere?

And Ridiculous? I believe you may have me confused with Gay-son...that appears to be HIS favorite word.