Rare Batman 1989 trailer!!

[BatmanEVH]

Some different takes are in this trailer, pretty cool none the less, plus, it's in HD

http://www.toutlecine.com/film/videos/0034/00342962/00008884-8-bat-batman-8884-batman-large.html

 

[union_jak]

Burton made Batman so that people who were unaware Bruce Wayne is Batman (if they exist!?) would discover it at the moment Vicki Vale found out. This trailer kinda cancelled that idea out with the cutting between Bruce and Batman.

 

[Crook]

Burton made Batman so that people who were unaware Bruce Wayne is Batman

 

[union_jak]

Don't give me that look.

Re-read the full sentence again. I'll take out the brackets in case that confused you.

Burton made Batman so that people who were unaware Bruce Wayne is Batman would discover it at the moment Vicki Vale found out.

Before that scene in the Batcave with Vicki we didn't see Bruce put on the Batsuit, or reveal to the audience his duel identity.

If you've never heard of Batman, but watched Tim Burton's Batman movie, it was stylised so you didn't know until towards the end. Of course, you'd have to be dumb not to see Keaton through that mask, but the intention was there.

 

[K.B.]

I think thats grassping for straws

 

[union_jak]

For what purpose would I need to grasp for straws? I'm saying how I see B89, and how this trailer spoils the aspect of an unknown identity, is contradictory.

 

[Two-Face]

Sounds crap without Elfman's Theme not used in the background.

 

[Dark Guardian]

Burton made Batman so that people who were unaware Bruce Wayne is Batman (if they exist!?) would discover it at the moment Vicki Vale found out. This trailer kinda cancelled that idea out with the cutting between Bruce and Batman.

Wha?!

We have a scene near the beginning, when we see Bruce in the cave at a computer station reviewing video footage of Gordon. If thats not a giveaway... There's then a scene when Batman brings Vicki back to the cave, to the very same computer station to hand her the info on Joker's toxin. Now I guess technically you don't actually see Bruce Wayne actually putting on the Batsuit, so in essence I suppose you don't see the fact that Bruce Wayne puts on a Batsuit and becomes Batman, and even if they didn't recognize the actor through the suit, there's still no way even the most blind of viewers could actually go throughout the whole film and not know that Bruce Wayne is Batman until Vicki does.

 

[K.B.]

Dude, honestly, it was 1989. From seriels to comics to toys, cartoons and the Adam West series,Batman had been around and in the public eye for YEARS.

If you didn't know that Bruce Wayne was Batman by 1989 then you either lived in a third world country where there was no contact with the civilized world or you were dead.

 

[union_jak]

Dude, honestly, it was 1989. From seriels to comics to toys, cartoons and the Adam West series,Batman had been around and in the public eye for YEARS.

If you didn't know that Bruce Wayne was Batman by 1989 then you either lived in a third world country where there was no contact with the civilized world or you were dead.

There is always a chance and possibility that non Batman fans exist. And it's also very possible that some people do not know Batman's real name. Lets not get carried away, he's not the son of God. Yes, I understand what you are saying, but for the purpose of storytelling, Burton chose to use it as the big reveal towards the end.

 

[Infinity9999x]

There is always a chance and possibility that non Batman fans exist. And it's also very possible that some people do not know Batman's real name. Lets not get carried away, he's not the son of God. Yes, I understand what you are saying, but for the purpose of storytelling, Burton chose to use it as the big reveal towards the end.

Ehhh...No, I'm sorry, but unless you have a direct quote from Burton in an interview, I'd have to say you're completely wrong.

1, to begin with, if Burton did intend that, then he went about it in a very poor way. As Dark Guardian already pointed out, one of the first scenes we see Wayne in, he's in an underground cave on a huge computer. Not only that, we see him replay the footage with Gordon when Gordon mentions axis chemicals, and then Batman appears as Axis chemicals.

When Bruce brings Vicky to the cave as Batman, he and Vicky stand in front of the same HUGE computer. You would have to be blind and have extreme short term memory loss to not realize it's the same cave, and same computer Bruce was sitting in at the beginning of the movie.

And then, we have the scene (which is before the revelation with Vicky) where we see Alfred locking up the suit, and giving Bruce the "I don't wish to spend my remaining years mourning old friends....or their sons" In the cave, again at the huge computer. And honestly, if Bruce wasn't Batman, what was Alfred saying that for? Does he think Bruce might get hurt investing in the stock market?

So unless people in the audience thought that there were two huge underground caves with huge computers in them, and Bruce and Batman just happened to live in an area with an identical underground cave and huge computer...I don't think anyone was fooled.

It was never meant as a surprise, and if it was, it was a horrible one.

 

[K.B.]

There is always a chance and possibility that non Batman fans exist. And it's also very possible that some people do not know Batman's real name. Lets not get carried away, he's not the son of God. Yes, I understand what you are saying, but for the purpose of storytelling, Burton chose to use it as the big reveal towards the end.

Did you know that during the 60's Bat-maina actually RIVALED Beatle-mania? That is no small feat.

When it comes to the pop culture lexicon, EVERYONE, and yes even non comics reading grannies, knows 4 superhero secret identitys.

Batman=Bruce Wayne
Superman=Clark Kent
Hulk=Bruce Banner
Spider-man=Peter Parker

And if thats still not enough to prove you wrong well I have to agree with everyword Dark Gaurdian and Infinity have said.

Maybe go back and watch the film.

 

[ross2287]

Sounds crap without Elfman's Theme not used in the background.

Or really any music, Face.
Trailer is cool for alternate takes. Thread is not cool for useless arguing.

 

[DarkKnight88]

Even if you had NO idea that Bruce Wayne was Batman before watching Batman '89... you'd have to be a complete idiot to not put two and two together when we see Bruce Wayne in the batcave watching his computer.

 

[El Payaso]

Even if you had NO idea that Bruce Wayne was Batman before watching Batman '89... you'd have to be a complete idiot to not put two and two together when we see Bruce Wayne in the batcave watching his computer.

Absolutely. Even before, when we see the giant mirror is fake and has a camera behind it and the bat-tune starts to play, it starts to become evident. By the time Bruce is watching the tape with Gordon and the cop is evident, and by the time Batman appears on Axis because "somehow" he knew what was going on, there's no possible doubt.

 

[Crook]

Don't give me that look.

Before that scene in the Batcave with Vicki we didn't see Bruce put on the Batsuit, or reveal to the audience his duel identity.

If you've never heard of Batman, but watched Tim Burton's Batman movie, it was stylised so you didn't know until towards the end. Of course, you'd have to be dumb not to see Keaton through that mask, but the intention was there.

For what purpose would I need to grasp for straws? I'm saying how I see B89, and how this trailer spoils the aspect of an unknown identity, is contradictory.

There is always a chance and possibility that non Batman fans exist. And it's also very possible that some people do not know Batman's real name. Lets not get carried away, he's not the son of God. Yes, I understand what you are saying, but for the purpose of storytelling, Burton chose to use it as the big reveal towards the end.

I've never such immense "FAIL" in my time here.

Seriously, you cannot be this demented.

 

[boog_spin]

wow!!!! this is making me laugh...you guys are a crack-up

my ****** brother billo not know that the batman an teh bruce wayne was teh samez til the big revealz at teh endz

 

[RockyBatboa]

Idont feel good saying it, but this has to be one of the most entertraining threads i've come across in a while.

Very amusingly funny!t:


Union Jack- I do kind ..of..understand what you were going for , however misguided your approach was.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i think what you meant to say was that Batman as portayed by Burton and Keaton in the first film was a completlely schizophrenic identity. Bruce Wayne and Batman were, in Wayne's mind, totally two separate people, and only became truly ONE when we see Wayne suit up at the end of the film.

Am i correct? If that's the case, then i totally agree with what you were going for.

And if so, then the others here could have been a tad less condescending and maybe just a little bit more perceptive of what you really meant.

....However, if you REALLY think that, LITERALY, Burton made "Batman" to shock some audiences with a BIG REVEAL of -GASP!- Bruce wayen's is Batman, then.....

Just:

I'm really just at a loss for words.

 

[union_jak]

Union Jack- I do kind ..of..understand what you were going for , however misguided your approach was.

Correct me if i'm wrong, but i think what you meant to say was that Batman as portayed by Burton and Keaton in the first film was a completlely schizophrenic identity. Bruce Wayne and Batman were, in Wayne's mind, totally two separate people, and only became truly ONE when we see Wayne suit up at the end of the film.

Am i correct? If that's the case, then i totally agree with what you were going for.

And if so, then the others here could have been a tad less condescending and maybe just a little bit more perceptive of what you really meant.

....However, if you REALLY think that, LITERALY, Burton made "Batman" to shock some audiences with a BIG REVEAL of -GASP!- Bruce wayen's is Batman, then.....

Yes, exactly. Thank you. The two 'characters' are kept seperate for the most part. Bruce never openly says "I'm Batman" or walks past the Batmobile while acting as Bruce Wayne until he comes to admit it to Vicki in that scene where he relives his past events and confirms that it's something he has to do.

From then onwards (end of that movie, and the following sequels) we see Bruce put on his Batsuit, walk around his Cave and talk about his duel identities to various people.

Burton saved the 'suit-up' until Bruce confirms to Vicki the truth about who he is, and unites both personas together, which is one of the great scenes in the movie.

I am not saying the 'Bruce Wayne is Batman' thing was supposed to be a massive surprise, just something Burton did not elaborate or focus on until that scene.

As if I'd be dumb enough to assume people don't know it's Michael Keaton under that mask, and the vast majority of the modern world will know Bruce Wayne is Batman

Honestly, I think a lot of you fanboys can be so dense and unwilling to view things from different perspectives sometimes.
Now, can this thread either die, get locked, or go back to discussing what poor BatmanEVH wanted to discuss in the beginning, before being so ****ing off topic it's not even funny.

 

[K.B.]

*double post

 

[K.B.]

Burton made Batman so that people who were unaware Bruce Wayne is Batman (if they exist!?) would discover it at the moment Vicki Vale found out. This trailer kinda cancelled that idea out with the cutting between Bruce and Batman.

Before that scene in the Batcave with Vicki we didn't see Bruce put on the Batsuit, or reveal to the audience his duel identity.

If you've never heard of Batman, but watched Tim Burton's Batman movie, it was stylised so you didn't know until towards the end. Of course, you'd have to be dumb not to see Keaton through that mask, but the intention was there.

For what purpose would I need to grasp for straws? I'm saying how I see B89, and how this trailer spoils the aspect of an unknown identity, is contradictory.

There is always a chance and possibility that non Batman fans exist. And it's also very possible that some people do not know Batman's real name. Lets not get carried away, he's not the son of God. Yes, I understand what you are saying, but for the purpose of storytelling, Burton chose to use it as the big reveal towards the end.

Your backpeddling here. In your posts your saying that there is a revel that Batman was really Bruce Wayne this whole time as if the audience didnt know, NOT a thing about duel identitys becoming one at the end etc etc.

 

[Tha OG Crip]

youre buggin! if anybody did not know that bruce was batman they must be "mentally challenged." i mean, bruce is sitting in a batcave on batcomputers please

 

[RockyBatboa]

Yes, exactly. Thank you.

Hey, no problem, man. I know how immature theese guys can be. Figured you could use some help. I knew where you we're comming from.

(By the way, or you the same "union jak" on the batman-on film boards?)

The two 'characters' are kept seperate for the most part. Bruce never openly says "I'm Batman" or walks past the Batmobile while acting as Bruce Wayne until he comes to admit it to Vicki in that scene where he relives his past events and confirms that it's something he has to do.

Exactly.

From then onwards (end of that movie, and the following sequels) we see Bruce put on his Batsuit, walk around his Cave and talk about his duel identities to various people.

Yep.

Burton saved the 'suit-up' until Bruce confirms to Vicki the truth about who he is, and unites both personas together, which is one of the great scenes in the movie.

This element of psychological duality/multiple personalaty and the pacing of Bruce Wayne's reconcilation with it, along w/ Burton's subtle recognition of it was one of the main factor's of the first film's originality and strength. At the time, many critics overlooked this powerfully interesting element, claiming Keaton didtn get enough screen time or Nicholson stole the show-these people totally missed the boat.

Honestly, I think a lot of you fanboys can be so dense and unwilling to view things from different perspectives sometimes.
Now, can this thread either die, get locked, or go back to discussing what poor BatmanEVH wanted to discuss in the beginning, before being so ****ing off topic it's not even funny.

This is too true. That is one of the reasons JUST trying to have fun at theese boards and having interesting discussions is such a strain on effort.

 

[Crook]

Did you even read the posts K.B. quoted? Dude backpedaled into a completely different topic than the one he was rambling on about.

 

[RockyBatboa]

Did you even read the posts K.B. quoted? Dude backpedaled into a completely different topic than the one he was rambling on about.

Did you even read my posts?

If you did, it should be obvious to you that i clearly understood what he literaly said, how everyone else responded withOUT thinking outside the box, instead just condescending what he said, and then i elaborated on what i thought he was really meaning to say?

Is there some sort of reason all you batman fans have to be so scientific and loathsome, and quarrelsome about all things Batman? and make someone else look bad when they dont share the same opinion as yours???

99% of you add NOTHING interesting to theese boards anyway!

And when someone accidently does foul up and say something eroneously, instead of taking a step back , everybody pounces??

Could it be b/c you have such lost and empty lives?

And what makes it all the more pathetic is most of you call yourself liberals-look up the meaning of the word in the dictionairy!