Sequels Reboot.

I don't want an origin story. I was fine how they handled the origin in the first movie. A montage of the X-Students and Prof X narrating. I honestly think origins that take long make the story kind of boring.

I agree entirely. Origins stories have no inventiveness anymore.
 
I didn't say it was, but it explained the origin of the X-Men just fine for me.
 
I agree and that's probably what I liked best about B'89 and X1. They didn't linger on a boring backstory.
 
Reboot sucks

We waited for X3 for like so long and reboot oh god!
 
X3 is definitely the worst Storm, IMO. Her attitude is *****y. Her dialog was whiny. Hey, at least her clothes were hip and stylish. :dry: :rolleyes:
Personally, I think X1/X2 had the worst Storm, especially in X1. :dry:
 
X3 is definitely the worst Storm, IMO. Her attitude is *****y. Her dialog was whiny. Hey, at least her clothes were hip and stylish. :dry: :rolleyes:


I didn't like Halle much in X3 either... she still didn't get it... they really miscast the part IMO, she's not suited.

I think they miscast Wolverine also in an effort to sexify him... but at least it was an interesting portrayal.
 
Talking about rebooting a very successful series that could easily continue is just foolish. ESPECIALLY when you talk about limiting it to the Original Five, three of whom don't have overly powerful fan bases.

Why not just continue what we've got and bring some fresh blood in?

I mean, I know a lot of people just "can't stand" (:whatever: ) a film without Cyke or Jean, but DAMN.


Cyke, Jean AND Xavier? Its just going to be even more of a Wolverine vehicle than it already is...
 
Cyke, Jean AND Xavier? Its just going to be even more of a Wolverine vehicle than it already is...

Not if they don't bring Wolvie back either. You figure if they make an X-4 it won't be for a few years... and Jackman can't make Wolverine look the same age forever.

But there's no way in hell they could justify bringing back Cyke or Jean in the next film. It'd be horribly contrived and stupid to force them back into the plot.
 
Cyke's death is the only one that isn't shown onscreen. So there is no need for resurrection. Even though I like Jean, I don't think she should be brought back to life.
 
Not if they don't bring Wolvie back either. You figure if they make an X-4 it won't be for a few years... and Jackman can't make Wolverine look the same age forever.

But there's no way in hell they could justify bringing back Cyke or Jean in the next film. It'd be horribly contrived and stupid to force them back into the plot.

Yet they are brought back time and again in the comics. :whatever: I say bring them back, these are comic book movies. Don't be affraid of treating them as such.
 
Yet they are brought back time and again in the comics. :whatever: I say bring them back, these are comic book movies. Don't be affraid of treating them as such.

But the movies themselves have tried hard to put a more realistic spin on things than the books themselves, so reviving the dead would be lame.
 
Just because something has happened in the books, doesn't make it good. Jean Grey's deaths/resurrections are practically comical, and that is something that shouldn't be carried over into the movies. It would be a joke to bring Jean Grey back again. They could barely explain it in the last movie...

"How?"
"I don't know..."

If I am to see Jean Grey again, I would like it to be in a prequel or a reboot.
 
My thoughts are starting to be mixed. If I were to have a good X4, I'd want one. But a good X4 to me would have no Jean, no Wolverine, No Xavier, no Magneto, no Mystique, Cyclops would have to come back...
Epilogue, I'm not sure anymore.
There was a time before X3 I was 100% sure the movie wouldn't happen, yet it happened. I'm about to reach the same point again. I just hope that, If I'm mistaken again, X4 doesn't turn out to be what X3 was: a huge, epic disappointment.
 
What people (i.e. comic-book nerds) gotta understand is that Fox's X-Men movies were/are not meant to retell what's in the comics... it's a reinvention of the comic book, based on the comic book. Did they not keep the essences of the characters alive no matter how far the stories were from the comic books?? I think that's what's most important. With a few exceptions, none of the movie characterizations were completely off from their comic book references... they kept the characters and reinvented the stories... (of course they made some poor choices in my and many others' opinions but) they should either continue the story as is (of course they would have to justify the return of Cyclops) or just KILL IT. No more X-Men movies. Bring 'em back, in, like, 20 years or something.
 
You're kidding yourself if you think they'd wait 20 years. 10 at the most. 8 for Batman.

Anyway, I couldn't see an X4 working anyway. By the time they're finish with Magneto and Wolverine, Berry will be pushing 50, and McKellen and Stewart would be in their 70s. No one wants to see crippled old mutants in their 70s(ok strike out Xavier 'cause he's already crippled). We don't need Magneto in a wheel chair too.

They will recast many characters whether they do a sequel or a reboot.
 
If they did a reboot I would somehow like to see things like the savage land, Aliens, Asteroid M, and a bunch of other unrealistic things from the comics that would look great on the big screen, the realistic tone of singer's x-men kind of annoyed me. And to see the first team consisting of Storm, Cyclops, Jean, Iceman, and Gambit would be nice, maybe Forge too. The brotherhood consisting of Mystique, Magneto, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Rogue, and Pyro(an uneven amount to make things more intresting). And a sequal that would of course introduce wolverine and maybe Psylocke.
 
Well we know this franchise ain't dieing, we know Fox is trying for some strange reason are trying to kill it. I think really, what we all we have to hope is Wolverine goes into Development Hell, and Magneto never leaves the ground, and hopefully, Marvel retains the rights. Then we can get a Recasted sequel that is only a sequel in spirit, just like the Hulk movie being made.
 
the storylines of the Xmen comics are enjoyable as comics,even animations and animated movies..... but live action movies? no i dont think so.....the live action movies are tryin to keep Xmen as close to reality as possible, however, goin to the shi'ar emoire etc into space and stuff is way too much fantasy 4 a real movie to have (unless it's star wars...the name itself indicates inter planertary stuff, Xmen does not) lol dotn hate me, just my opinion, i myself am a big fan ofthe comics and animated series, but they r tryin to appeal to everyone!! not only the comic fans liek us! i enjoyed the modern down to earth theme.....alot nicer than the older neverending comics(not a bad thing):-D!
 
^ I don't think that having things like the Shi'ar empire, a pheonix saga that actually has the pheonix, the savage land, or any other thing that comes from the comic books would turn people off, if anything I think it would turn more people on to the x-men movies. I'm not sayin 'go to the Shi'ar in the 4th movie' because it just doesnt go with the movie's realistic tone. But People seem to really want and like fantasy and adventure movies that take them out of the real world and on an adventure, I mean look at Pirates of the Carribean, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, or even Spider-man. People ask why the x-men movies didn't make as much as those movies and it's because their tones aren't so serious or 'realistic' they give a story of substance and an unrealistcness that Kids(which is the strong fan base missing from the x-men movies, not saying the x-men movies don't have a kid fanbase but come on...) and adults want to see. So I really doubt that just comic fans, geeks nerds or whatever you call it want to see an actual X-men movie. And i'm not sayin I didn't like the past 3 movies but I really think it would have been better if this 'realistic tone' didn't happen. I'm not hatein on you but when you said ''they r tryin to appeal to everyone!!'' I just thought that was all wrong, if anything they don't appeal everyone now...just my opinion.
 
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^ I don't think that having things like the Shi'ar empire, a pheonix saga that actually has the pheonix, the savage land, or any other thing that comes from the comic books would turn people off, if anything I think it would turn more people on to the x-men movies. I'm not sayin 'go to the Shi'ar in the 4th movie' because it just doesnt go with the movie's realistic tone. But People seem to really want and like fantasy and adventure movies that take them out of the real world and on an adventure, I mean look at Pirates of the Carribean, Harry Potter, Lord of the Rings, or even Spider-man. People ask why the x-men movies didn't make as much as those movies and it's because their tones aren't so serious or 'realistic' they give a story of substance and an unrealistcness that Kids(which is the strong fan base missing from the x-men movies, not saying the x-men movies don't have a kid fanbase but come on...) and adults want to see. So I really doubt that just comic fans, geeks nerds or whatever you call it want to see an actual X-men movie. And i'm not sayin I didn't like the past 3 movies but I really think it would have been better if this 'realistic tone' didn't happen. I'm not hatein on you but when you said ''they r tryin to appeal to everyone!!'' I just thought that was all wrong, if anything they don't appeal everyone now...just my opinion.

The X-Men have always maintained a more serious tone, and it shouldn't be ignored or watered down just to appeal to a bunch of children to help line executives' pockets with more money that we're never going to see.

The Shi'ar and the Savage Land are nice to look at, but they don't really provide any substance, and save for the Phoenix/Dark Phoenix Saga, they never really have... and more substance is what these movies really need.

The first X-Men movies were never going to make Harry Potter or Spider-Man numbers. Save for one cartoon, the X-Men had no exposure outside of the comic books. Maybe in the future, they'll be selling more tickets because more people know who they are, but I still wouldn't expect Pirates numbers.
 
Interesting points from both.

But what happen then with the Star Wars saga? the boxoffice was really good, so the x-men could be more successful.

I hate to see that the x-men movies haven't got higher.
 
Interesting points from both.

But what happen then with the Star Wars saga? the boxoffice was really good, so the x-men could be more successful.

I hate to see that the x-men movies haven't got higher.

Star Wars was fueled by the massive following it had garnered over the years due to the initial trilogy's "iconic" success... and the initial trilogy's success was due to a number of factors, most importantly, the substance of the characters and the fact that almost nothing like that had been seen before.

That is not the case anymore.

Simply putting characters in outerspace with otherworldly aliens does not guarantee a film's success... otherwise Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer would be doing better, not to mention box office bombs like Zathura.
 

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