Sequels Reboot.

[thegameq]

You are my hero. Thank you for finally saying what's the complete truth.

I am tired of people whining because the movie wasn't a carbon copy of the comic book. Big deal! Comic books are great, but they have things in them that just don't translate to film well. Sure, we might watch them, but these movies need to appeal to a mass market, not just comic book fans. I think Singer did a great job. He took characters that were larger than life and brought them back to a very human level. Ratner as well.

You do realize that many of the same things were said about Spider-man and Superman before they were bought to the big screen. Naturally after critics and naysayers saw how well the films were done, the new excuse became: "Spider-man and Superman can be done that way because they are outlandish to begin with, so you can easily get away with it."

Sigh.

The premise is fantasy plain and simple. Now try and tell me that fantasy films have limited appeal....tell me that "Pirates" was so "out there fantasy" that it had limited appeal. Of course I could say the same about other big name fantasy franchises as well.

The point I'm trying to make is that no one really knows how well a fully blown X-men comic book fantasy film will do because it hasn't been tried. Why? Honestly, this is Fox we're talking about....

Now you may not like fantasy films, which is your perrogative if true, but there seems to be a whole bunch of average moviegoers who just love their fully blown fantasy films.

So why not X-men?...

 

[ReallyCoolGuy]

^^^ You bring to the table a thought-provoking argument... but forget the films for a moment... if you look at the current comic books compared to those of yesteryear... you will see that the books themselves have also shifted toward a more realistic foundation... it is a sign of the times... Star Wars was a killer in the '70s... but space-themed movies today don't last a month at the box office... people (the general public) seem to wanna see (and apparently, read) more relateable, down-to-earth scenarios.

But, also... like you said: "no one really knows ... because it hasn't been tried"

 

[CaptainClown]

a down to earth space theme movie

Starship Troopers? Aliens? Serenity? (shrug)

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

You do realize that many of the same things were said about Spider-man and Superman before they were bought to the big screen. Naturally after critics and naysayers saw how well the films were done, the new excuse became: "Spider-man and Superman can be done that way because they are outlandish to begin with, so you can easily get away with it."

Sigh.

The premise is fantasy plain and simple. Now try and tell me that fantasy films have limited appeal....tell me that "Pirates" was so "out there fantasy" that it had limited appeal. Of course I could say the same about other big name fantasy franchises as well.

The point I'm trying to make is that no one really knows how well a fully blown X-men comic book fantasy film will do because it hasn't been tried. Why? Honestly, this is Fox we're talking about....

Now you may not like fantasy films, which is your perrogative if true, but there seems to be a whole bunch of average moviegoers who just love their fully blown fantasy films.

So why not X-men?...

i think the "outlandish to begin with" arguement is a valid one.

as it is, x-men actually aren't your typical superheroes. most superheroes are beloved by the public, and may fight for nice things like justice and what not, but what it comes down to is the fact that they are really just fighting fancy, superpowered criminals.

x-men are not about that. sure, the comics are nice and flashy, with big time unusual power displays, and what not. but honestly, what i like about x-men isn't the costumes, the powers, the space travel - it's the fact that it actually has a very strong core, foundation to it about something that's bigger than fighting criminals.

it is the whole political aspect of x-men that appeals to me. when the x-men are fighting the brotherhood, the government, sentinels, etc... all of that appeals to me so much more than when the x-men are fighting apocalypse, mr. sinister, the phalanx, the brood, or some crazy alien race. what i remember the most about the cartoons i watched growing up, was the fact that the x-men weren't beloved by the public - they were feared and hated for what they were, but they still fought for what was right.

when the movies focused on that aspect, instead of the bright costumes and flashy power displays, to me, it was the x-men done exactly as they were supposed to be done.

when i read the comics, the stories that appeal to me the most are the more down to earth, more personal, and more political story arcs. the story arcs of the x-men traveling through time, and space, they don't appeal to me as much. crytorrak crystals don't appeal to me as much. shiar empires don't appeal to me as much. the political struggle - xavier fighting for equality and acceptance, while magneto fights for superiority because he will not watch mutants be oppressed any longer, THAT appeals to me. the x-men fighting against sentinels, the humans' weapon of oppression against mutant kind, THAT appeals to me. the personal conflicts between characters like wolverine and sabretooth, or gambit and sabretooth, or gambit and mr. sinister (one of sinister's better arcs i believe), those personal struggles appeal to me. the morlocks, the society of outcast mutants who live in the sewers, and their own struggles for acceptance, THAT appeals to me.

that is why i feel the x-men movies were done absolutely right. because they focused on what appeals to me. they focused on what makes the x-men special, unique. otherwise, they'd just be a really overblown version of the fantastic 4.

spiderman, superman, fantastic 4, those get away with being a bit more "comic book-ish" because well, they don't have a meaning that's really as deep as x-men. at least not in my opinion. all of those are more based upon the fact that these are fantastic characters, with awesome, larger than life powers. THAT is what THOSE particular characters are based upon, and therefore, that approach to the movies works.

x-men is different. it's based upon a theme, a message, and the fancy powers and such is there for entertainment purposes. it's much more than just super powered people fighting each other.

take a look at batman. why is batman begins so highly praised over the other batman films? it is because batman is a very personal story, a very dark story. and nolan captured that element of batman. batman begins isn't out there. it's VERY grounded. but that's what batman is - a very dark story, both in what it deals with, as well as the setting. it is a very personal struggle. and nolan captures that.

personally, i think that batman begins is over-rated. i don't believe it is the holy grail of comic book films that people make it out to be. BUT it is a good movie, and it's definately the best batman movie i've ever seen. because it was REAL.

 

[ToriL90]

i think the "outlandish to begin with" arguement is a valid one.

as it is, x-men actually aren't your typical superheroes. most superheroes are beloved by the public, and may fight for nice things like justice and what not, but what it comes down to is the fact that they are really just fighting fancy, superpowered criminals.

x-men are not about that. sure, the comics are nice and flashy, with big time unusual power displays, and what not. but honestly, what i like about x-men isn't the costumes, the powers, the space travel - it's the fact that it actually has a very strong core, foundation to it about something that's bigger than fighting criminals.

it is the whole political aspect of x-men that appeals to me. when the x-men are fighting the brotherhood, the government, sentinels, etc... all of that appeals to me so much more than when the x-men are fighting apocalypse, mr. sinister, the phalanx, the brood, or some crazy alien race. what i remember the most about the cartoons i watched growing up, was the fact that the x-men weren't beloved by the public - they were feared and hated for what they were, but they still fought for what was right.

when the movies focused on that aspect, instead of the bright costumes and flashy power displays, to me, it was the x-men done exactly as they were supposed to be done.

when i read the comics, the stories that appeal to me the most are the more down to earth, more personal, and more political story arcs. the story arcs of the x-men traveling through time, and space, they don't appeal to me as much. crytorrak crystals don't appeal to me as much. shiar empires don't appeal to me as much. the political struggle - xavier fighting for equality and acceptance, while magneto fights for superiority because he will not watch mutants be oppressed any longer, THAT appeals to me. the x-men fighting against sentinels, the humans' weapon of oppression against mutant kind, THAT appeals to me. the personal conflicts between characters like wolverine and sabretooth, or gambit and sabretooth, or gambit and mr. sinister (one of sinister's better arcs i believe), those personal struggles appeal to me. the morlocks, the society of outcast mutants who live in the sewers, and their own struggles for acceptance, THAT appeals to me.

that is why i feel the x-men movies were done absolutely right. because they focused on what appeals to me. they focused on what makes the x-men special, unique. otherwise, they'd just be a really overblown version of the fantastic 4.

spiderman, superman, fantastic 4, those get away with being a bit more "comic book-ish" because well, they don't have a meaning that's really as deep as x-men. at least not in my opinion. all of those are more based upon the fact that these are fantastic characters, with awesome, larger than life powers. THAT is what THOSE particular characters are based upon, and therefore, that approach to the movies works.

x-men is different. it's based upon a theme, a message, and the fancy powers and such is there for entertainment purposes. it's much more than just super powered people fighting each other.

take a look at batman. why is batman begins so highly praised over the other batman films? it is because batman is a very personal story, a very dark story. and nolan captured that element of batman. batman begins isn't out there. it's VERY grounded. but that's what batman is - a very dark story, both in what it deals with, as well as the setting. it is a very personal struggle. and nolan captures that.

personally, i think that batman begins is over-rated. i don't believe it is the holy grail of comic book films that people make it out to be. BUT it is a good movie, and it's definately the best batman movie i've ever seen. because it was REAL.

 

[thegameq]

i think the "outlandish to begin with" arguement is a valid one.

as it is, x-men actually aren't your typical superheroes. most superheroes are beloved by the public, and may fight for nice things like justice and what not, but what it comes down to is the fact that they are really just fighting fancy, superpowered criminals.

x-men are not about that. sure, the comics are nice and flashy, with big time unusual power displays, and what not. but honestly, what i like about x-men isn't the costumes, the powers, the space travel - it's the fact that it actually has a very strong core, foundation to it about something that's bigger than fighting criminals.

it is the whole political aspect of x-men that appeals to me. when the x-men are fighting the brotherhood, the government, sentinels, etc... all of that appeals to me so much more than when the x-men are fighting apocalypse, mr. sinister, the phalanx, the brood, or some crazy alien race. what i remember the most about the cartoons i watched growing up, was the fact that the x-men weren't beloved by the public - they were feared and hated for what they were, but they still fought for what was right.

when the movies focused on that aspect, instead of the bright costumes and flashy power displays, to me, it was the x-men done exactly as they were supposed to be done.

when i read the comics, the stories that appeal to me the most are the more down to earth, more personal, and more political story arcs. the story arcs of the x-men traveling through time, and space, they don't appeal to me as much. crytorrak crystals don't appeal to me as much. shiar empires don't appeal to me as much. the political struggle - xavier fighting for equality and acceptance, while magneto fights for superiority because he will not watch mutants be oppressed any longer, THAT appeals to me. the x-men fighting against sentinels, the humans' weapon of oppression against mutant kind, THAT appeals to me. the personal conflicts between characters like wolverine and sabretooth, or gambit and sabretooth, or gambit and mr. sinister (one of sinister's better arcs i believe), those personal struggles appeal to me. the morlocks, the society of outcast mutants who live in the sewers, and their own struggles for acceptance, THAT appeals to me.

that is why i feel the x-men movies were done absolutely right. because they focused on what appeals to me. they focused on what makes the x-men special, unique. otherwise, they'd just be a really overblown version of the fantastic 4.

spiderman, superman, fantastic 4, those get away with being a bit more "comic book-ish" because well, they don't have a meaning that's really as deep as x-men. at least not in my opinion. all of those are more based upon the fact that these are fantastic characters, with awesome, larger than life powers. THAT is what THOSE particular characters are based upon, and therefore, that approach to the movies works.

x-men is different. it's based upon a theme, a message, and the fancy powers and such is there for entertainment purposes. it's much more than just super powered people fighting each other.

take a look at batman. why is batman begins so highly praised over the other batman films? it is because batman is a very personal story, a very dark story. and nolan captured that element of batman. batman begins isn't out there. it's VERY grounded. but that's what batman is - a very dark story, both in what it deals with, as well as the setting. it is a very personal struggle. and nolan captures that.

personally, i think that batman begins is over-rated. i don't believe it is the holy grail of comic book films that people make it out to be. BUT it is a good movie, and it's definately the best batman movie i've ever seen. because it was REAL.

Great post, I'd almost forgotten about your articulate posts from the X3 forums. But you make the same mistake so many on these boards and others do with these properties. You take out the part you don't like and trumpet the part you do. What happens to the people who wanted a full version of the X-men and not just 1/4 of the X-men? What you just described is not X-men as a whole. It's "Nell's personal favorite part of X-men." The things you don't like, like it or not, is part of the X-men. Come on Nell, you think the majority of X-men fans are in it for the social commentary or the fantasy, I mean really...? Not to say the social aspect isn't interesting or intriguing in relation to our own civilization--but that's not all there is to X-men.

The X-men I want to see on film is a full version of the X-men, not just a small part--a part I might add that has been overblown IMO--yes, yes we know it's a social statement, prejudice, blah, blah, etc.,etc., geez do we have to harp on it and sell it like it's the only part of X-men that exists.

Unless Marvel was putting out personally created comics for everyone, I think we were all reading and watching the same material. I saw plenty of fantasy, didn't everyone else?

Why distill X-men? Let me answer; it's a tired one for sure and its been used add-infinitum: "Because they want the films to have broader appeal with general audineces." The same general audience that fell head over heels for a giant robot smashfest devoid of any common sense as well as a pirate flick heavy on the action and fantasy. So again, the question is how do we know a fully blown fantasy version of X-men will fail and have limited appeal? Based on what.....fear?

You can apply the same argument to Batman. Who said a fully blown noir fantasy Batman film would fail and have limited appeal?

Perhaps it's the fear that it can't or won't be done well--which is more than justifiable. But who's to say it will? Does it not stand to reason that such an effort would warrant a director or production team with great creative and artistic vision? No it's no guarantee, but it's a start towards making an effort to be great.

The greatest contributor to the lack of quality comicbook films is obviously fear, ignorance and the lack of talent capable of pulling these films off.

Also, I agree, BB is highly overrated. Very good film, but I'm sure it's not the Batman film so many comicbook fans were hoping they would finally get after close to a 20yr hiatus.

 

[ToriL90]

I just don't think a full-on comic version would work. So many people have a problem with the black leather suits; but in the immortal words of Scott Summers, "What would you prefer? Yellow spandex?" I'm sorry, I don't care how many muscles or claws a guy has. He comes at me in a yellow spandex suit and a little yellow mask with big black eyepieces, all I'll be doing is laughing. I may laugh while he's killing me, but I'll still be laughing. t:

 

[CaptainClown]

I just don't think a full-on comic version would work. So many people have a problem with the black leather suits; but in the immortal words of Scott Summers, "What would you prefer? Yellow spandex?" I'm sorry, I don't care how many muscles or claws a guy has. He comes at me in a yellow spandex suit and a little yellow mask with big black eyepieces, all I'll be doing is laughing. I may laugh while he's killing me, but I'll still be laughing. t:

I agree, there are certain aspects of superhero comics that really don't transfer well to screen. Though some people really want a spandex superhero. They always cite Spiderman as an example

 

[ToriL90]

I agree, there are certain aspects of superhero comics that really don't transfer well to screen. Though some people really want a spandex superhero. They always cite Spiderman as an example

Spiderman was a joke, and it was played as a joke. You can't have Spiderman without the suit, nor can you have him without his popularity. The writers knew this, but they also knew that if they took it seriously, it would be stupid. So they showed us that they know it's silly; and by doing so, made it funny instead of stupid. I don't think that could be done with the X-Men. Again, is there any way to take a guy in yellow spandex seriously, no matter how well it's written? I say no.

 

[CaptainClown]

Spiderman was a joke, and it was played as a joke. You can't have Spiderman without the suit, nor can you have him without his popularity. The writers knew this, but they also knew that if they took it seriously, it would be stupid. So they showed us that they know it's silly; and by doing so, made it funny instead of stupid. I don't think that could be done with the X-Men. Again, is there any way to take a guy in yellow spandex seriously, no matter how well it's written? I say no.

i think it was hitchcock who said "if a movie takes itself too seriously it will be silly"

 

[thegameq]

What a surprise the yellow spandex argument. Given time I'm sure the words Power Rangers will eventually be mentioned. Talk about predictable...

It's a good thing Spider-man didn't translate well to the big screen, but then the whole film was a big joke played for laughs. I loved the scene where Spidey uses the Spider-shark reppellant.....Clearly Raimi should have made the character more realistic and eliminated all the silly things that don't work on screen...but then it wouldn't exactly be Spider-man anymore, but then who cares....as long as it's the kind of movie I like, who really gives a f**K.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you'd think a place called Superhero hype would be filled with people with much more fervent and sophisticated imaginations.

 

[CaptainClown]

What a surprise the yellow spandex argument. Given time I'm sure the words Power Rangers will eventually be mentioned. Talk about predictable...

It's a good thing Spider-man didn't translate well to the big screen, but then the whole film was a big joke played for laughs. I loved the scene where Spidey uses the Spider-shark reppellant.....Clearly Raimi should have made the character more realistic and eliminated all the silly things that don't work on screen...but then it wouldn't exactly be Spider-man anymore, but then who cares....as long as it's the kind of movie I like, who really gives a f**K.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you'd think a place called Superhero hype would be filled with people with much more fervent and sophisticated imaginations.

How does not caring for a superhero movie by doing a direct adaptation make any of us less imaginative then someone who wants a page by page translation to the screen.
Everyone has their own view of characters and beliefs of what works and what doesn't. Realistic takes on characters does indeed take a lot of creativity to get something out of this world and make it easier to relate to. It just is a different type of imagination you would have to use.

 

[ToriL90]

What a surprise the yellow spandex argument. Given time I'm sure the words Power Rangers will eventually be mentioned. Talk about predictable...

It's a good thing Spider-man didn't translate well to the big screen, but then the whole film was a big joke played for laughs. I loved the scene where Spidey uses the Spider-shark reppellant.....Clearly Raimi should have made the character more realistic and eliminated all the silly things that don't work on screen...but then it wouldn't exactly be Spider-man anymore, but then who cares....as long as it's the kind of movie I like, who really gives a f**K.

Don't take this the wrong way, but you'd think a place called Superhero hype would be filled with people with much more fervent and sophisticated imaginations.

Is "sophisticated" really the word you want to use? I outgrew the comics when I turned 7.

 

[thegameq]

How does not caring for a superhero movie by doing a direct adaptation make any of us less imaginative then someone who wants a page by page translation to the screen.
Everyone has their own view of characters and beliefs of what works and what doesn't. Realistic takes on characters does indeed take a lot of creativity to get something out of this world and make it easier to relate to. It just is a different type of imagination you would have to use.

I may be reading you wrong, correct me if I am. You believe the X-films were a direct adaptation?

The page by page thing is old and predictable as well so I won't comment on it.

Of course everyone has their own view, likewise opinion. The point I'm making is that "the view" is not X-men as a WHOLE, regardless of ones personal view. By removing the parts one doesn't like or care for, you basically disregard the fans who do like the fantasy as well as the obvious social commentary.

There are tons of arguments all over these boards and the internet about making "realistic" comicbook movies and the basis for them are the same as this discussion.

Now if you want to fall back on the "for general audiences" argument, ok fine. But those same audiences have shown time and time again to love their full blown fantasy. So why not X-men?

Also, many believed Fox could have come up with costumes much more sophisticated than leather jumpsuits. It's stated in the comics that the uniforms are essentially a form of body armor, so something more sophisticated looking would have been appreciated, other than bell bottom jumpsuits, come on.

Funny...I could all but guarantee that if X-men were to be remade closer to the comicbook with more fantasy, and if it were made well with production values usually reserved for mega-blockbusters, the "outlandish excuse" would be used against X-men.

"X-men were outlandish to begin with. Superpowers, mutants and flashy powers, the whole premise is a silly joke."

So again, why not X-men? Other than personal preferences, why not X-men?

Even the Batman Begins worshippers conceide that a stylized fantasy noir version of Batman could work and probably would do well. So why not X-men?

Uh-oh..., "Batman is silly and outlandish to begin with, that's why you can get away with it."

 

[CaptainClown]

no i didn't believe x-men was a direct adaptation. My whole statement was a counter to the saying, those who don't want a direct adaptation aren't any less creative then people who want a direct adaptation and who would accept more far fetched ideas vs someone who wouldn't

 

[BMM]

Meh... the Spandex argument. Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else think Spandex, even akin to Spider-Man, would just look cheap? I wouldn't mind seeing more faithful costumes, but I would like to see them try using something other than Spandex. Besides, all of the X-Men don't even wear Spandex... For instance, Storm doesn't do spandex.

 

[thegameq]

Meh... the Spandex argument. Maybe it's just me, but does anyone else think Spandex, even akin to Spider-Man, would just look cheap? I wouldn't mind seeing more faithful costumes, but I would like to see them try using something other than Spandex. Besides, all of the X-Men don't even wear Spandex... For instance, Storm doesn't do spandex.

In the case of the X-men spandex wouldn't work, which is why it is referred to as body armor in the comics. It's a similar scenario with Batman. He wears cloth over body armor, whereas the X-men's uniforms are body armor.

 

[javphonic]

yea, spandex would look wierd on them...

mayb the colored pipelines or whatever coulv'e been used to highlight features from the cartoon, as they did with wolverine's suit in X1, with the tiger strips n what not

 

[Iceburgeruk]

You are my hero. Thank you for finally saying what's the complete truth.

I am tired of people whining because the movie wasn't a carbon copy of the comic book. Big deal! Comic books are great, but they have things in them that just don't translate to film well. Sure, we might watch them, but these movies need to appeal to a mass market, not just comic book fans. I think Singer did a great job. He took characters that were larger than life and brought them back to a very human level. Ratner as well.

Problem is the only character which is done well is wolverine. I can accept the less comic book feel if collosus had more than one line!

Also they try and say it is more about the themes but they play it as though it is our world where there is no anti-mutant sentiment. I haven`t seen much evidence that mutants are persecuted really at all in the x-men movies. A sensible person would show some form of anti-muatnt violence but of course that would draw ugly parrallel with racism in the real world and so would slow down the popcorn moments. I mean the theme is touched on but it is nowhere near as strong as it should be. I see no evidence of a world that hates and fears them.

 

[CaptainClown]

Problem is the only character which is done well is wolverine. I can accept the less comic book feel if collosus had more than one line!

Also they try and say it is more about the themes but they play it as though it is our world where there is no anti-mutant sentiment. I haven`t seen much evidence that mutants are persecuted really at all in the x-men movies. A sensible person would show some form of anti-muatnt violence but of course that would draw ugly parrallel with racism in the real world and so would slow down the popcorn moments. I mean the theme is touched on but it is nowhere near as strong as it should be. I see no evidence of a world that hates and fears them.

ya, they seemed to tip toe around it.

 

[GL1]

As long as the movies are about the X-Men as a whole, and not focused on Wolverine as the be all end all of the X-Men Universe, then I'll happily go see them, and almost assuredly call them an improvement.

I'm all for the down to earth feel of the previous franchise, but the rediculous and unbelievable way in which Wolverine ran the X-Men every time he was on screen made all the emotional heart of the movie seem pointless.

 

[GFreeman]

There were a lot of things that I thought the 3 movies got right that I wouldn't want to change (no aliens, no space, no asteroid bases, no spandex, etc), but yeah, I'd like a reboot at this point. For all the things that they got right, the characters themselves all just didn't seem right. Cyclops was a card board cut-out for Wolverine to rebel against, Wolverine cried all the time, Iceman being so serious all the time, a Rogue and Colossus that apparently hailed from New York instead of the South and Russia, and so on.

I'd probably get Joss Whedon to direct it, or at least write it, I've really liked what he's done with Astonishing, despite all the ridiculous alien stuff the characters themselves have been really well done.

I never really had a problem with the lack of costumes in the Singer/Ratner movies. It makes more sense for a team to be in uniform than for them to each have totally unique, colorful get-up's. Maybe some variation of the Morrison New X-Men suits, I liked those.

My cast would be Cyclops, Jean, Wolverine, Beast, Colossus, Kitty. I think it's got the best story-telling potential, and I don't think a larger team is a good idea.

First movie would be Sentinels and racist humanity on one side (I remember Friends of Humanity from TAS, probably use that), Magneto and the Brotherhood of Mutants on the other, with the X-men in the middle trying to prevent a race war. I'm not really sure what I would do with the other two. I definitely wouldn't want Magneto to make anything more than a small appearance in them though. I didn't like how X1-3 kept coming back to him. Maybe have a significantly altered version of Apocalypse and Mr. Sinister show up, or figure out a way to work the Hellfire Club into it. Anything but "X-men vs Brotherhood, rounds two and three".

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

If their is a reboot I like what Singer/Ratner did had a small team and then it grew, the return of Beast was good becuase we dont need his backstory that much;

X1: would've introduced the Friends of Humanity(with Sen. Kelly as the benefactor,so he can win votes 4 presidency), the prejudice against mutants(which was severly left out)cameos of Morlocks n mutant(s) being mistreated(jus like the TAS version), Prof. X would have more of a Dr.King role(I like the scene with Jean in D.C., but I Prof. X should've been at the poteum w/her and they should have been talkin telepathically Jean loosig her temper but Charles telling her to calm down), The X-Men constist of Cyclops, Jean, Colossus(not as old),Storm and introducing Rogue and Wolverine, the students would be Bobby(as a jokester/serious),Kitty,Pyro,Gambit(who has an eye on Rogue and @ 1st is competing w/Bobby 4 her attention)...and the B.O. E with Magneto:Mystique,Toad,Blob,Quicksilver,(Sabertooth), basically I liked the plot of X1, but it should've been a little bit deeper n a better fight scene 'tween the X-Men and B.O.E

 

[CorpusBlack]

The first three X-Men films made an assload of money. So in the studios eyes they're doing something right. I don't expect a reboot anytime soon. If anything they will make the rumored teen X-Men film and probably X4 in some fashion.. especially if 'Wolverine' does well, which it will. Even 'Magneto' will rake in cash. Probably not as much as Wolvie but it'll make enough to justify cranking out a couple more of the current crop of X-films.

 

[X-Maniac]

I'm not sure I want a reboot...

But I did quite like the way the new X-Men team came into the comics. Xavier went around the world (he used Cerebro, and then astral projection of his body image) and recruited them all. He needed a new team to rescue the old one from the Krakoa 'living island' mutant. It was nice to see an international team being created. There weren't that many mutants around then, so I guess he had to search the world for the best and most useful ones. In the first ever X-Men comic, Xavier believes himself to be the first mutant. We now know that isn't true, but for whatever reason, he once believed it was.

It was a nice simple idea.

The first X-movie didn't show us how Cyclops, Jean and Storm came to be at the school.

So, I guess it would be nice to see how he actually began recruiting mutants and how the idea of a stealth force came about. That is something that could be done in a sequel to the Magneto movie. I have a feeling the Magneto movie could become a reboot that ignores the continuity of the three existing movies.

What it needs is a strong cohesive vision. I'd like more franchises to be planned out in advance. It makes sense financially and creatively. There has to be lessons to be learned from the LoTR trilogy, and from Spider-Man and Pirates franchises (despite the flawed SM3). Solid film-making. Studios and directors who know what they are doing.