Rev. Falwell decries stem cell research

[SoulManX]

KANSAS CITY, Mo. - The Rev. Jerry Falwell, citing his belief that life begins at conception, said he opposes stem cell research even though it shows great medical promise.


Falwell, founder of Virginia's Liberty University and the Moral Majority, said he sympathized with those whose conditions could possibly be helped by stem cell research.
However, he said Tuesday that any medical research must pass a three-part test: "Is it ethically correct? Is it biblically correct? Is it morally correct?"


Stem cell research, Falwell said, "does not pass the smell test."
Falwell, 73, founder and pastor of the Thomas Road Baptist Church in Lynchburg, Va., was in Kansas City to give the keynote address at a convocation at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary.


Afterward, he commented on a measure that will appear on the November ballot in Missouri. The initiative, a proposed amendment to the state constitution, would protect all stem cell research in the state if it is now allowed under federal law.


"I believe life begins at conception," Falwell said. "Therefore, for the same reason I oppose abortion, I oppose stem cell research."

 

[JLBats]

Omg!!!

 

[KingOfDreams]

If I believed in Satan, I would believe that Falwell is his spawn. But since I don't I'll have to settle for just calling him a *****ebag.

 

[SoulManX]

Omg!!!

JLBats u neva cease to amaze me

 

[Themanofbat]

Wait until he needs some medical research to help with some aliment that he develops... like diabetes... and then he might change his tune.

F***king religious zealots!!!

 

[SoulManX]

Wait until he needs some medical research to help with some aliment that he develops... like diabetes... and then he might change his tune.

F***king religious zealots!!!

If we could be so lucky

 

[Themanofbat]

If we could be so lucky

Obviously, he wouldn't change his mind publicly, as he would simply say something stupid. like god chose for me to have this disease, for reasons unbeknownst to any of us, because he behaves in such a mysterious manner, we'd all be horsewhipped if we dare think outside the box and figure out what's in his lil' pecker-ridden pea-brain of his.



I love being a spiritual person, but I just hate f***kin' religion AND the POWER it holds over weak-willed people.

 

[Themanofbat]

If we could be so lucky

Obviously, he wouldn't change his mind publicly, as he would simply say something stupid. like god chose for me to have this disease, for reasons unbeknownst to any of us, because he behaves in such a mysterious manner, we'd all be horsewhipped if we dare think outside the box and figure out what's in his lil' pecker-ridden pea-brain of his.



I love being a spiritual person, but I just hate f***kin' religion AND the POWER it holds over weak-willed people.

 

[SoulManX]

I love being a spiritual person, but I just hate f***kin' religion AND the POWER it holds over weak-willed people.


Brother I agree with u

 

[Mr. Credible]

hm... medical research has to be biblically correct?

that's a new one to me. i wouldn't think most, if not all of today's medicine would be considered biblically correct.

 

[Speedball]

Falwell needs to just shut his f-ing mouth.
Pat Robertson needs to shut up too.
He makes my hometown groan everytime he opens his old wrinkly mouth.(well, technically his headquarters is NEXT to my hometown.)

 

[bored]

Stem cells die just so they don't have to live in a world where Jerry Falwell exists.

 

[Themanofbat]

Stem cells die just so they don't have to live in a world where Jerry Falwell exists.

Who can blame them???

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Ok so for stemcell research you gotta basically sacrifice a living being to save another? I think that is just wrong. You guys ever see the movie "The Island"?

 

[Speedball]

Ok so for stemcell research you gotta basically sacrifice a living being to save another? I think that is just wrong. You guys ever see the movie "The Island"?

well...
Actually you don't have to kill a living being.
That's only embryonic stem cell research, there's more than just that.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

please enlighten me SpeedballLives

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Ok so for stemcell research you gotta basically sacrifice a living being to save another?

Incorrect no one is killing anyone. Thousands of fetus are aborted or die all the time for reasons other than "I don't want to have the baby". Complications, medical emergencies, risk of the mother's life all can lead to the death/abortion of a fetus. So you dont' "have to do" anything, since fetus die all the time with or without abortion.

sacrifice a living being to save another? I think that is just wrong.

Although I cannot see your profile right now I am going out on a limb and assuming you are American or live in a Western country.

Let me ask you. Is that not the basis for not just war but the entire Justice System. Take the life either physically or through incarceration of another in order to save other lives.

You guys ever see the movie "The Island"?

Movies usually are not helpful in examining deep questions such as this, especially not Michael Bay films

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Well I do not like war, I am not from America. I am from Iran, I am proud to be Iranian. Not proud to have such a ******ed government though. But in truth all countries have ******ed government. 9/11 was a verry tragic event the government showed almost no compassion for the people. I was crying night after night for people I had never met. I want to ask the Americans something, What do you think the CIA does? Hold the thought for a second before continuing reading. Ok so the CIA goes into other countries assassinates or steals things and comes back home. I call that terrorism. anyways off topic. But I am weak on the topic of stem cell research. I am in this thread to learn.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Is anyone going to fight him on this?

I don't think "stem cell research" passes "The Smell Test".

I'll bet it smells all cold and antiseptic, like the hallways in a hospital.

and chemically and s***

 

[jaguarr]

It didn't pass the "smell test"? WTF?

jag

 

[Man-Thing]

Why is it that if you are against embrionic stem cell research that you automatically are considered a religious zealot? It's not like it's an extreme position to take, sure it might be the minority, but it's still not extreme.

What gets me about the whole pro-reproductive rights and pro-life argument is that MOST people whom I've talked to about the issue that are pro-abortion rights, get all up in arms over chickens being slaughtered in a slaughter house. Big friggin deal, it's a nasty lice infected chicken. There should be a difference between the life of a baby and the life of a chicken in the conscience of all men.

It's very easy to take the position of being pro-life WITHOUT bringing religion into it. It's called the constitution. In it, we (as Americans) are guaranteed a right to life, so there's your argument. It would be nice if people would look at all the constitution and not just the first ammendment every now and then.

 

[Speedball]

Why is it that if you are against embrionic stem cell research that you automatically are considered a religious zealot? It's not like it's an extreme position to take, sure it might be the minority, but it's still not extreme.

What gets me about the whole pro-reproductive rights and pro-life argument is that MOST people whom I've talked to about the issue that are pro-abortion rights, get all up in arms over chickens being slaughtered in a slaughter house. Big friggin deal, it's a nasty lice infected chicken. There should be a difference between the life of a baby and the life of a chicken in the conscience of all men.

It's very easy to take the position of being pro-life WITHOUT bringing religion into it. It's called the constitution. In it, we (as Americans) are guaranteed a right to life, so there's your argument. It would be nice if people would look at all the constitution and not just the first ammendment every now and then.

I'm Pro-life, but If someone isn't, I don't tell them that they are going to hell or anything.
It's their choice, not mine.
But here's what really bugs me about people who are pro-life.
A few weeks ago, I was driving to class, as usual.
I get onto the interstate, ok normal.
I see at a walkway that passes overhead there are signs. Hmm..
wonder what it says...
OMG!!! Dead cut up babies!!!
Do they have no respect for children who could be scarred for life from these images? Do they not realized that they are interferring with traffic because it is so distracting. Some people are very squemish(sp.?), what would happen if someone like that were to see that sign, throw up, and cause a huge accident during rush hour(which is when these signs were displayed).

 

[Man-Thing]

I'm Pro-life, but If someone isn't, I don't tell them that they are going to hell or anything.
It's their choice, not mine.
But here's what really bugs me about people who are pro-life.
A few weeks ago, I was driving to class, as usual.
I get onto the interstate, ok normal.
I see at a walkway that passes overhead there are signs. Hmm..
wonder what it says...
OMG!!! Dead cut up babies!!!
Do they have no respect for children who could be scarred for life from these images? Do they not realized that they are interferring with traffic because it is so distracting. Some people are very squemish(sp.?), what would happen if someone like that were to see that sign, throw up, and cause a huge accident during rush hour(which is when these signs were displayed).

okay...
I don't put up pictures of dead babys on overpasses JSYK.

 

[Carter]

Life starts at conception?

I don't care, I don't have a womb.
Maybe I do and I'm just barren.

 

[War Lord]

Wait until he needs some medical research to help with some aliment that he develops... like diabetes... and then he might change his tune.

F***king religious zealots!!!

There's already an effective treatment for diabetes invented in Alberta and it uses no embryos.

I couldn't use embryonic stem cells for anything, even if my life depended on it.