Riots in Missouri - Part 2

[Godzilla2000]

Nov 25th: Dead body found in Ferguson Neighborhood.

http://fox2now.com/2014/11/25/body-found-in-ferguson-neighborhood/

If this is a Black on Black crime what can we say about it now? Will there be any outraged rioters concerning this murder?

 

[SV Fan]

Will there be any outraged rioters concerning this murder?

I think there would be some outrage if the found the guy who killed the other one and he didn't get charged at all.

 

[Docker2.0]

Nov 25th: Dead body found in Ferguson Neighborhood.



http://fox2now.com/2014/11/25/body-found-in-ferguson-neighborhood/

If this is a Black on Black crime what can we say about it now? Will there be any outraged rioters concerning this murder?

My thoughts exactly! No one will even bat an eye about it but yet will try and go after this cop who was quite possibly only defending himself.

You know, Al Sharlaton, Louise FaraCoon and/or Messe Jackson could squash this rioting in a second, but they see more money making opportunities if they sit back, let the drama unfold and then get paid for all the media circuits, press, etc that is sure to follow.

Did you know those guys don't show up unless you give them so much money? They are the biggest frauds I have ever seen!

 

[cronosred]

Racism does not go both ways, nor is there any such thing as "Reverse Racism." Racism is the creation of systems put in place to oppress and keep minority groups from achieving the same opportunities as the majority. Essentially, Prejudice + Power = Racism.

How can a minority group be racist or put in place racist systems to oppress a majority group when we don't have the power and never have in this country? Now prejudice, that's a different story. There can, and definitely are, prejudiced minority groups.

I never ceases to amaze me when people use that lame logic as a means to justify their own bigotry.

 

[RockSP]

They should start in Chicago or Detroit. It amazes me how the shootings and killings there almost seem biblical but not a word is said by black leaders but as soon as a white person kills a black person, people want to march and loot. With rules like "stop snitching" or "snitches get stitches" almost promoting lawlessness, it's like it's ok for black people to kill each other at alarming rates but they expect white people to stay out of it which is crazy.

It's very disingenuous to pretend that is just about "a white person killing a black person". This goes way beyond the Mike Brown case. The root of the outrage is the ongoing pattern of cops killing blacks under very questionable circumstances and facing little to no consequences. The black criminals you are talking about go to jail.

As for the "no snitching" thing, are you equally upset about the police version of that?

 

[SV Fan]

My thoughts exactly! No one will even bat an eye about it but yet will try and go after this cop who was quite possibly only defending himself.

The first shot our 2 might have been defending oneself, anything after that being classified as self defense when the other guy doesn't have a weapon is beyond ridiculous

 

[Docker2.0]

It's very disingenuous to pretend that is just about "a white person killing a black person". This goes way beyond the Mike Brown case. The root of the outrage is the ongoing pattern of cops killing blacks under very questionable circumstances and facing little to no consequences. The black criminals you are talking about go to jail.

As for the "no snitching" thing, are you equally upset about the police version of that?

Zimmerman wasn't a cop and there was outrage when he killed Martin. As far as cops not snitching, it's wrong but they are not out killing themselves in record numbers.

The first shot our 2 might have been defending oneself, anything after that being classified as self defense when the other guy doesn't have a weapon is beyond ridiculous

From my understanding most of those shots missed. He may have emptied his clip but but all 12 shots didn't hit Brown.

 

[summerteeth]

The first shot our 2 might have been defending oneself, anything after that being classified as self defense when the other guy doesn't have a weapon is beyond ridiculous

He didn't know he didn't have a weapon though and he was moving toward him after he punched him in the face and tried to take his gun. I don't know what you want this officer to do. I know if I was in his shoes I would think this kid is trying/tried to kill me. It's very difficult to argue that self-defense is not justified.

 

[SuperT]

I never ceases to amaze me when people use that lame logic as a means to justify their own bigotry.

Where did I say anywhere in my post that I was justifying discrimination, bigotry or prejudice? I was illustrating the fact that "racism" is much more complicated than what most white American's choose to believe.

As a gay, African-American male the last thing I would ever do would be to promote any discrimination between cultures. But right now, we as black people are freaking tired of feeling like we're the ones that have to demolish and dismantle racism instead of the majority group that created it. Why is it our responsibility to educate you?

Does that seem right?!

 

[Scrandy Randy]

Racism does not go both ways, nor is there any such thing as "Reverse Racism." Racism is the creation of systems put in place to oppress and keep minority groups from achieving the same opportunities as the majority. Essentially, Prejudice + Power = Racism.

How can a minority group be racist or put in place racist systems to oppress a majority group when we don't have the power and never have in this country? Now prejudice, that's a different story. There can, and definitely are, prejudiced minority groups.

Holding onto the notion that only black people understand racism and white people can't comment on the situation is ridiculous. You can't complain about inequality when you don't want equality and tell us we don't understand racism.

 

[SuperT]

Holding onto the notion that only black people understand racism and white people can't comment on the situation is ridiculous.

No one ever said you can't comment on the matter, by all means do, that's the problem with where we are today. The majority in our country are too terrified to face or talk about the real issue of racism here and how it's still alive and kicking. But keep in mind, problems begin to arise when you start to think that your opinion, as a member of the majority, is more valid than the actual people that live this on a daily basis. Your opinion will never be more important or relevant than the lived experiences of minorities and that's a fact.

That's the whole issue, for years the majority has been telling minorities that "racism is over", "you're being radical", "get over it", "we have a black president now" etc. Once again, how can you ignore the opinions of people who live this on a daily basis as not being valid or tell us we're the wrong ones?

 

[Dr. Evil]

Black People are not the only ones to have dealt with Racism. There was the internment of a majority of the Japanese population in America during World War II. Right after 9-11, Arab Americans became the subject of racism. Latinos and Native Americans have also been subject to racism, as the outrage over "The Washington Redskins" made waves a few months ago, although that has seemed to have died down for the moment and the immigration issue has become racially motivated.

 

[cronosred]

Where did I say anywhere in my post that I was justifying discrimination, bigotry or prejudice? I was illustrating the fact that "racism" is much more complicated than what most white American's choose to believe.

As a gay, African-American male the last thing I would ever do would be to promote any discrimination between cultures. But right now, we as black people are freaking tired of feeling like we're the ones that have to demolish and dismantle racism instead of the majority group that created it. Why is it our responsibility to educate you?

Does that seem right?!

It's not right to say people have to live by different rules because the color of their skin. It's not right to say one persons action is racist because their white but someone of another color isn't when they go and do the same thing. I'm tired of people acting like their bigotries are excusable simply because their not white.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Apparently Michael Brown's dad was yelling "burn this ***** down!"

Was he talking about the Little Caesars?

 

[chaseter]

Way to wisely choose your battles people of Missouri.

Is it racist to automatically assume that a white cop intentionally murdered a black teen before any investigation/evidence arises? Yes. Continue with your racially motivated riots people of Missouri.

 

[<(o_o)>]

Apparently Michael Brown's dad was yelling "burn this ***** down!"

Was he talking about the Little Caesars?

Shame on you! People are unemployed today because of this.

 

[Docker2.0]

No one ever said you can't comment on the matter, by all means do, that's the problem with where we are today. The majority in our country are too terrified to face or talk about the real issue of racism here and how it's still alive and kicking. But keep in mind, problems begin to arise when you start to think that your opinion, as a member of the majority, is more valid than the actual people that live this on a daily basis. Your opinion will never be more important or relevant than the lived experiences of minorities and that's a fact.

That's the whole issue, for years the majority has been telling minorities that "racism is over", "you're being radical", "get over it", "we have a black president now" etc. Once again, how can you ignore the opinions of people who live this on a daily basis as not being valid or tell us we're the wrong ones?

I hear that a lot. Racism is still alive and well.

Black People are not the only ones to have dealt with Racism. There was the internment of a majority of the Japanese population in America during World War II. Right after 9-11, Arab Americans became the subject of racism. Latinos and Native Americans have also been subject to racism, as the outrage over "The Washington Redskins" made waves a few months ago, although that has seemed to have died down for the moment and the immigration issue has become racially motivated.

I hear what you are saying but through all those times, from WW2, from 911, and so on, blacks were and still are being discriminated against. There are some that make it bad for by doing stupid stuff but it still goes on. It kills me when one black person does something stupid(like Mike Brown), then the entire race is bad. But if a white person does something bad(shooting up a school)it's due to mental illness. You can't generalize an entire race because of an idiot here and there. Don't think it happens? Go to any major website(yahoo, CNN, etc..)and read the comment sections and see how people really feel. Keyboard warriors yes but it goes to show what is truly in people's hearts.

 

[terry78]

I know latinos and asians deal with **** just from associates and friends I've had over the years, but a lot of them can still walk around without being shadowed by somebody also. I'm probably the most non threatening looking black guy around but I've been followed in a store before.

 

[Erzengel]

Is racism prevalent in our society? Absolutely.

Does it effect minorities more so than white people? Yes.

Does that mean it's okay when it does happen to whites or doesn't exist because of "privilege? No.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I hear what you are saying but through all those times, from WW2, from 911, and so on, blacks were and still are being discriminated against. There are some that make it bad for by doing stupid stuff but it still goes on. It kills me when one black person does something stupid(like Mike Brown), then the entire race is bad. But if a white person does something bad(shooting up a school)it's due to mental illness. You can't generalize an entire race because of an idiot here and there. Don't think it happens? Go to any major website(yahoo, CNN, etc..)and read the comment sections and see how people really feel. Keyboard warriors yes but it goes to show what is truly in people's hearts.

And yet, what people fail to realize that there are a lot of good African American role models, all of whom are super famous and most of those are in the entertainment industry.

 

[Superwoman Prime]

I'm caucasian (who looks like he could be part something else). I've had cops and civilians randomly stop and question me while I'm out walking.

Walking in some cities is just suspicious behavior for some reason.

 

[cronosred]

It kills me when one black person does something stupid(like Mike Brown), then the entire race is bad. But if a white person does something bad(shooting up a school)it's due to mental illness. You can't generalize an entire race because of an idiot here and there.

Yeah that never happens to white people.

 

[SV Fan]

Way to wisely choose your battles people of Missouri.

Is it racist to automatically assume that a white cop intentionally murdered a black teen before any investigation/evidence arises? Yes. Continue with your racially motivated riots people of Missouri.

So I guess you believe that one thing we learned since the OJ trial is the court system is always right. How incompetent is the prosecutor that all he had to prove that there was a reasonable possibility that Wilson was guilty(it wasn't like he had to 100% prove he was guilty) so the case could be taken to trial and he lost

This is worse then the Zimmerman case because in the Zimmerman case they at least had to prove he was guilty without a doubt

 

[Docker2.0]

Yeah that never happens to white people.

Yep! I know! Black people just whining again! Gotcha!

 

[Pink Ranger]

I know latinos and asians deal with **** just from associates and friends I've had over the years, but a lot of them can still walk around without being shadowed by somebody also. I'm probably the most non threatening looking black guy around but I've been followed in a store before.

I am of several minority groups (including Asian), but never, ever in my life did my parents have to sit me down and teach me down to the most minute detail how to act in the presence of a police officer. I am talking of down to the level of never making sudden movements, never raising your voice above a certain level, never breaking eye contact, etc. It bothers me that this is the social reality for black American men. The fact that this is apparently a necessary part of growing up a black male in America says to me that something is very fundamentally wrong with that country still.

That stated, I do believe this shooting was justified based on the evidence I have heard, and that turning Michael Brown into a folk hero is a bit of an ill-conceived notion.