Rob Zombie's Halloween!

[Jennifer Walters]

What's your opinion of this?

http://bloody-disgusting.com/index.php?Show=6539&Template=newsfull

 

[Carter]

I'll believe it when Joblo reports it.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Alright. But Dimension Films, reportedly reported it themselves...so..

If it was Bloody Disgusting itself doing this, then I wouldn't have even bothered posting it, cause they've been wrong about the next Halloween plenty of times in the past.

 

[kainedamo]

Rod Zombie is a great director.

 

[DACrowe]

But he makes **** films.

Anyway this sounds like a bad idea. Why couldn't they have stopped with H20? Better yet why couldn't they have stopped with H2? Or better even why not after the first?

 

[The Dark Defender]

But he makes **** films.

Anyway this sounds like a bad idea. Why couldn't they have stopped with H20? Better yet why couldn't they have stopped with H2? Or better even why not after the first?

No, he makes good to great ones, in the case of TDR with a ton of depth that people that look past the surface to see what he was trying to do can appreciate.

And they couldn't stop after the first one because there were still enough fans that wanted more to warrent sequels.

 

[TheVileOne]

Rob Zombie has already debunked this. It's not true.

 

[The Dark Defender]

Him denying it doesn't necessarily mean it's not true. Fangoria was trying to force Malek Akkad's hand in delivering news about it before he wanted it revealed, if a director had been selected, he would tell him to deny it until Akkad was ready to officially report it.

 

[The Dark Defender]

I just found this on Rob's myspace blog.

http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?f...&MyToken=3efdc199-16bb-420c-8d8d-807b4489e599

He confirms he is indeed writing/directing the next Halloween film, and what he denied was that he was not making Halloween 9. He's considering this a reimaging/retelling/remake.

Of course there will be a ton of *****ing and moaning about Halloween being remake, but as far as I'm concerned it's a best case scenario if he's at the helm.

I respect what the original did for the genre, but I still find it very overrated, and H20 and Resurrection ****ed things up so bad for this franchise by #1 ignoring continuity (ignoring films far better than the ones they were making by the way) just because they found it convenient at the time, and #2 ****ing out the franchise to whatever was popular with the mainstream rather than genre fans at the time, that there's nothing else to do but start over, and Zombie, along with Alexandre Aja is the best thing that's happened to the genre in years, so he's the perfect guy for the job.

 

[Darthphere]

Rod Zombie is a great director.

 

[The Dark Defender]

My reaction to someone claiming the opposite.

 

[Darthphere]

My reaction to someone claiming the opposite.

Rod Zombie is a horrible director.

 

[Socrates]

I knew this day was coming.

 

[thedeadite]

let's just remake ALL the classic horror films..but take away everything that made them so great...make them brand new..just keep the old name and make a bundle!!!!!

"re-imaginings" are even worse than straight up remakes

i probably won't be seeing this

 

[U.S War Machine]

If Rob Zombie is doing this he might as well make a satanic version of Howard The Duck.

 

[Bat Attack]

Now if friggen' NEW LINE CAN MAKE A NIGHTMARE ON ELM STREET SEQUEL!!!! COME ON NEW LINE YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO!!!

 

[Kaiser]

let's just remake ALL the classic horror films..but take away everything that made them so great...make them brand new..just keep the old name and make a bundle!!!!!

"re-imaginings" are even worse than straight up remakes

i probably won't be seeing this

What made them so great?

 

[Flexo]

You know what's good about reimagings?

If they suck, they don't screw with the continuity. They can be ignored or forgotten.

I, personally, think that Rob Zombie is a decent film maker who is improving with each project. Not to mention that he'll give something fresh to the worn out Halloween series.

Sounds good to me.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

A Halloween re-make or (re-imagining LOL) with no Dr. Loomis or Laurie Strode? And don't tell me you can replace those two characters with another actor/actress because you can't. I don't like Rob Zombie's style to begin with so this is bad news to me. Damn, first they re-make The Omen and now this.

 

[Movies205]

Rob Zombie is a decent director, he has a good visual style but his writing is ****, or at least just from Devil's Rejects it was just so god-damn pretencious...

 

[The Dark Defender]

It was far from pretentious, he made a very impartial film where he left it up to the viewer who they wanted to root for.

 

[Movies205]

It was far from pretentious, he made a very impartial film where he left it up to the viewer who they wanted to root for.

No no no, it was pretencious crap... Which teenagers or people who feel teh need to try and be deep feel deep without actually watching something deep.... Try watching Croenburg if you want to see soemething that's left up to the viewer...

 

[The Dark Defender]

No no no, it was pretencious crap... Which teenagers or people who feel teh need to try and be deep feel deep without actually watching something deep.... Try watching Croenburg if you want to see soemething that's left up to the viewer...

That post right there is extremely pretentious(as for looking down at teenage movie-goers...you are one. On top of the pretense, it's hypocritical).

As for Cronenburg, I loved A History of Violence...and I don't find it nearly as good, or as deep as TDR.

 

[Movies205]

You got to be kidding me right? I'm sorry man but you have just sinned against the almighty movie gods... Like I can give Zombie props for a good visual style he manage to recreate 70s horror flicks really well but his story was pretencious crap, it was just "OMG look we root for the villians look IT'S SO INTELLIGENT WOW!!" Nah man.. History of Violence was just amazing, it let's the viewer take whatever he wants from the story, there's nothing pretencious about it, simply croenburg telling another story...

 

[The Dark Defender]

I don't find AHOV pretentious either, I didn't say I did. I said that I find TDR to be a vastly superior film to a film which is very good.

As for TDR, there are great character archs for Wydell and for the Fireflys where he gets progressively worse because he's so totally consumed by revenge that his judgment is clouded beyond reason, and they get progressively better. Rob shows them as the most heartless, abhorent pieces of **** possible during the early portion of the film, then has them endure the same torture and degredation that they had been dishing out all this time, and it's only then they come to understand the wrong that they had done before they died.

That was my take on the ending, what the Fireflys were thinking before they died is left up to the viewer. Both Wydell and the Fireflys end up with qualities that could be interpreted as positive or negative. The film also carries a great message that murder is murder, whether you're committing it in the name of God, or in the name of the Devil makes it no better.

The Devil's Rejects is one of my favorite films of all time, I find it very deep, and very entertaining with many different layers to it. I also love how Rob completely switched around the common genre pattern of having the villains start off dark and menacing, then having them become lighter and/or funnier as the series progresses. He did the opposite with Corpses and Rejects.

As for that "you have to be kidding, you committed a sin saying that!" That's precisely what I'm talking about, that's an extremely pretentious attitude. Film quality is subjective, those that aren't pretentious don't come off with the typical holier than though attitude when debating with those that feel differently.