RottenTomato critic ratings for CBMs do you think are way too low?

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  1. MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    Most Superman fans would disagree with the RT critic rating of MOS which is way down at 56%.

    So what comic book movies (CBMs) do you think have RT critic rating far too low?

    Here's a list of them all:

    The Dark Knight 94%
    Iron Man. 94%
    Superman (78). 94%
    Spider-man 2. 93%
    The Avengers - 92%
    Spider-man. 89%
    X2. 88%
    Superman 2. 88%
    The Dark Knight Rises - 87%
    X-men First Class 87%
    Batman Begins 85%
    X-men. 82%
    Captain America. 79%
    Batman Returns 79%
    Iron Man 3 78%
    Thor. 77%
    Superman Returns 76%
    Iron Man 2. 74%
    The Amazing Spider-man 73%
    Batman (89). 72%
    The Incredible Hulk 66%
    Watchmen. 65%
    Spider-man 3 63%
    Hulk. 62%
    Blade 2. 59%
    X-men 3. 57%
    Man of Steel 56%
    Blade. 55%
    Daredevil. 45%
    Batman Forever. 44%
    Wolverine. 37%
    Fantastic Four 2 37%
    The Punisher. 29%
    Green Lantern. 27%
    Ghost Rider. 27%
    Fantastic Four 27%
    Punisher War Zone. 26%
    Blade 3. 26%
    Superman 3. 24%
    Howard the Duck. 16%
    Ghost Rider 2. 15%
    Jonah Hex. 13%
    Batman & Robin. 13%
    Elektra. 10%
    Catwoman. 10%
    Superman 4. 10%
    Supergirl. 8%
     
  2. spider-neil spins a web any size!

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    Say what you want about RT, you have to admit the great movies are at the top and rubbish movies are at the bottom.
     
  3. henzINNIT Registered

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    Watchmen is waaaay too low in my opinion. The only thing that stands out to me.
     
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    I think Watchman's position on the scale is just right.

    1. The movie makes the humans appear 'super' defeating the entire narrative of the story.

    2. The musical choices (not the score) are the worst musical choices I've ever heard for a movie, ever.

    3. The violence is violent for violence sake rather than adding anything to the story. For example Rorschach cleaving the killer's head in two when in the comic he just burns the man alive and leaves him with the choice of sawing off his own arm.

    I liked the director's cut better but the theatrical cut deserves it's low RT score.
     
  5. MessiahDecoy123 Psychological Anarchist

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    Blade. 55% (30 points too low)

    Batman (89). 72% (20 points too low)

    The Amazing Spider-man 73% (12 points too low)

    These movies should be in the 80's IMO. Blade and Batman especially are way off.

    I haven't seen MOS yet.
     
  6. spider-neil spins a web any size!

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    I kind of agree with you on those. I think the reasons for the low scores are;

    Blade - He's not a likeable character (for a critic)

    ASM - It's a retread (although I really like this movie)

    Batman - Too dark/gothic?
     
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    They are all fine with me imo. What we need to realize is that a significant portion of these critics aren't comic book fans. Soem of the stuff we love may not go over well with them (watchmen), and some of the things we complain about, they don't find anything wrong with (mandarin in IM3).

    But for the most part, they get it right. the movies at the bottom are terrible, the movies at the top are great, and the ones in the middle between average and good. people will always have their favorites, hell i know people who swear by X-Men Origins but its a fairly accurate rating system imo.
     
  8. spider-neil spins a web any size!

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    The reason why MoS rating is so low with the critics is pretty obvious if you ask me. The final fight is too bombastic, too repetitive and goes on for far too long and washes away a lot of the good will for acts 1 and 2. The general audience will that that slide (82% general audience rating) but no way are critics going to let that slide.
     
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    Blade 1, 2, and Watchmen should be higher. At least in the 70's. Man Of Steel certainly deserve a higher score.

    Btw Superman and Iron Man are 93% not 94.
     
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    Man of Steel should be in the mid to late 60's or something. Spider-man 1 should be lower. Rises and Batman Begins lower.
     
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    TASM, MOS, Batman 89, TIH and Daredevil are too low imho.
     
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    Actually 87%, but it should even be higher than 88, lol. I'd say it deserves a low 90s.

    Actually 89%, but it should be the same score as the first Superman film(which is 93%). I always felt the first two Superman films are of the same equal quality.

    I wouldn't mind seeing TDKR in the 90s. It deserves it.

    A solid origin film that deserves a higher score such as the middle 80s.

    Again, another solid origin film for the MCU. Imo, it's ridiculous that Cap and Thor get around the 70s when they are both extremely better than IM2 and 3. Middle 80s.

    A shame of a score for an amazing Batman film, imo(as it's actually 70%). Should at least get in the high 80s, at least.

    A vast improvement over the '03 flick, but only a few scores higher than it? Nonsense. Should at least reach the high 70s.

    I can see how some reviewers would look down at it when Watchmen is more like this cult phenomenon than anything else, but still...Watchmen is an amazing CBM. Higher. Much, much higher(low 90s).

    Way better of a CBM than what RT scores it to be. High 80s.

    Counting TDKTrilogy as one, Man of Steel is my 2nd favorite CBM and a 56% does not cut it. Even someone working for the website said she was baffled at such a low score. Great origin, great start for DC's cinematic universe. High 80s-low 90s.

    Once more, a CBM that is much better than the RT score. Low 80s.

    A personal favorite of mine that I will always rank as at least in my top twenty CBMs. Low 80s.



    Moral of the story....even critics fail too I guess, lol.
     
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    I think Man of Steel, Watchmen, The Amazing Spider-man and The Dark Knight Rises deserve higher.

    Meanwhile, I think The Avengers and Spider-man 3 deserve lower.
     
  14. spider-neil spins a web any size!

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    SM3 has problems coming out of it's arse but it's a really entertaining movie.
    I have it on Blu ray and can't bring myself to sell it.

    Avengers is dumb fun but I swear there were moments in that movie that LITERALLY gave me goose bumps. Thor vs Hulk, I was in the cinema thinking, 'I can't believe this is actually happening'. Avengers is a fanboys dream. They pulled off the impossible and that deserves props.
     
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    With the exception of Avengers and TDKR the RT top 10 is my top 10 as well.
    ASM and Dredd (which isn't listed) make up the rest of my top 10.
     
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    It is entertaining, I'll give it that (emo Peter is one of the funniest things in any CBM, it shouldn't be but it is). But with all it's messes in character development, the villains and the plot, I think it should be in the 50's at most.

    Avengers isn't bad by any means, I don't mean that. It's not my thing but I definitely don't feel it's bad. I think the first two acts are a lot of fun. Third act, I don't enjoy too much but whatever. I just feel it's overrated. High 70's, I'd say.

    Oh, and I forgot, I feel X3 should be a lower.
     
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    Development shemelopment there are some really cool scenes in SM3.
    GG2 vs Peter
    Birth of Sandman
    Sandman vs Spidey (armoured truck)
    Sandman vs Spidey (subway)
    Harry vs Peter
    I prefer SM3 to virtually every 3rd superhero movie with the except of TDKR.
    Put it this way, I'd rather watch SM3 than IM3.

    Avengers get props because it is a milestone movie.
     
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    I don't really know how you can say something deserves to be higher when RT isn't even really a score. Its a percentage. Avengers having a 93% does not mean the film is an A. It means 93% of the RT reviewers gave it a positive score. Hypothetically, a very mediocre film that gets all 6-7/10s could get a 100% if everyone gave it a mediocre score. So by saying, So-and-So should be higher on RT, your saying more people should have liked it and given it a good review which is kind of weird to say, IMO.

    Now, what films do I think are better than what their 'score' indicates?

    Watchmen, Man Of Steel and The Incredible Hulk for sure. TDKR, Captain America and Iron Man 3 to a lesser extent as well.

    Films that I think are worse than what their 'score' indicates?

    Iron Man, though I do like it. I just don't think it deserves the critical acclaim it got.
     
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    I think IM as an absolutely brilliant movie (final fight aside). That movie made me wish I was an Iron Man fan. The amount of superhero movies I think are better I can count on one hand (not including my thumb).
     
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    If you said including your thumb, then I could agree. There are only five films that I find better than Iron Man.
     
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    You are talking about a movie that took a B lister (not an icon like Spidey, Supes or Batman) and turned him into a A lister. Brilliant performances from the entire cast, brilliant action, stunning effects, humour, charm, tension.
    If IM is overrated you may as well say all superhero movies are overrated.
    It doesn't get much better than this. The reason why it isn't top of the pile is, let's be honest here, the villain is pretty rubbish.
     
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    I'd actually probably rate it #7 or #8 on my superhero list. Its a really good film. I just don't think its in that top tier and most people have it in there, but I certainly enjoy it and think its an above average film and a great origin film. I just prefer Nolan's trilogy, Spiderman 2, Avengers, Watchmen and maybe Raimi's first Spiderman to it.
     

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