Ryse: Son of Rome

Iceman · Jun 12, 2013

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MfYuP6L44k

Love the setting of this game. Hopefully the gameplay is better than it looks although I'll probably use Kinect so expect to enjoy it regardless. Taking part in a Roman battle (with Kinect) on a Sunday morning sounds like a fun workout lol.

jacobed · Jun 21, 2013

Theres no doubt in my mind that the qte's will be a lot less in the actual game or they'll be optional like in Darksiders

zenith16 · Jun 26, 2013

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Crytek on the Rise with Ryse: Son of Rome

Jose becomes an ancient Roman warrior with a look at Ryse: Son of Rome, the Xbox One game from Crytek.

source:EPD.TV/ROTR

Asteroid-Man · Jun 26, 2013

I'm so pumped for this game.

jacobed · Jun 29, 2013

They've confirmed the qtes are just how pull off the executions and you'll unlock over 100 of them. They're completely optional and even if you hit b to execute, you don't have to press the other buttons but if you do you get more xp

Poetic Chaos · Jun 29, 2013

Mines already paid for for Day 1. Kinect Sports Rivals for my second.

zenith16 · Jul 22, 2013

Ryse Producer Explains How The Xbox One Game Will Be Different From The E3 Demo. July 22, 2013 . 6:23pm

Ryse producer Michael Read outlines what combat will be like the final game and it won’t have button prompts floating overhead. Ryse also has a system where you can recover health by doing executions or if you’re doing well you can earn bonus XP.

Ryse Producer Explains How The Xbox One Game Will Be Different From The E3 Demo I played Ryse: Son of Rome and while the Xbox One title had more realistic graphics, the combat seemed to focus too much on quick time events.

The hands-on demo is exactly the same as the E3 demo where you control Marius Titus and charge into battle. You can attack with Marius’ sword by pressing X, bash enemies with your shield with the Y button, block with A, and press B to grab an enemy for an execution. In the hands-on demo, time slows down when you trigger an execution and button prompts pop up. Hit those in order and Marius will brutally finish off an enemy. Combat is similar to Batman: Arkham City or Sleeping Dogs since you can change targets by pointing the analog stick towards the next enemy you want to strike. As you move through the demo, Marius goes into "formation mode" which calls a group of soldiers to stand side by side holding their shields up to block arrows. You have to alternate between raising your shield and throwing pilums to defeat a wave of archers. After that you storm a castle.

The first enemy you see is conveniently standing by a ledge so you can kick him off. Marius commands his unit to destroy a catapult while he covers his squad from a wave of three enemies. Ryse is supposed to be a combat focused game and my first thought after playing it was there was too much focus on quick time events. Also, it was way to easy to lock enemies into QTEs. It’s not unusual for demos to play different from the final game. For example, you can’t die in the Ryse demo and you have an unlimited number of troops that back you up in formation mode. This won’t happen in the retail game, which is slated for release as an Xbox One launch title. However, Ryse’s combat felt like it was very much a work in progress for a game just a few months away, so Siliconera pulled Crytek producer Michael Read aside and asked him a few questions.

When I played Ryse I noticed, that when you fight multiple guys you can just press the A button to block without worrying about the direction an enemy was coming at you. It seemed kind of easy, since you didn’t need to change the direction Marius is facing when it came to blocking. Michael Read, Producer at Crytek: No. It’s not on this demo specifically. When they come in at a specific range, Marius will go into a combat pose. It you’d like notice, that’s also on the combat side too. I mean if you have two guys that are spread apart; much in a similar way like [the] Batman [Arkham series]. You are attacking one [enemy].

You know that guy is over there. You push the stick and start hitting him and he [Marius] will charge over to him and hacking him. We are working on the block mechanics. Ryse Producer Explains How The Xbox One Game Will Be Different From The E3 Demo How is the combo system going to work? God of War is a combo heavy game, while in Ryse I only needed to hit an enemy once or twice before moving into an execution state.

This is why had need to do a deeper explanation because what we presented on the kit for E3 was being perceived as what the final game is going to be. And really, it was a very tiny slice. There are some scripted moments in there that we had to put in. There are a couple of guys you strike them two times – especially the first guy you strike in there he immediately goes into an execution state. This is the same demo that we used in actual E3 piece that we’ve shown online as well. What you’re going to see in the final game, you’re going to see various levels of difficulty from easy mode I think up to nightmare. I don’t know if they have decided on that. But, what’s going to change in there is the amount of the damage that enemies is going to do to you and how accurate that you are going to do on blocking. And then of course what ties into that is execution state when you put them into that. Some of the higher archetype guys, I mean they are going to take a lot of hits to put it. We are going to throw some stupid guys in there, where it’s probably going to take two hits, especially early on in the game to get you used to the control system and how that all works. There’s a lot we should have explained. We didn’t do a good job of doing that.

What I had said in during the presentation was we work a lot on our own engine. We’re working with a development kit that’s still very much in development. One of the few games, if you look at a lot of the games that we are truly hands on the Xbox One, we are one of the few that are actually hands on the Xbox One.

There was other running on kits like Dead Rising for instance. Some of those games, we had to go back, and go “OK, what’s in our combat system? What’s ready in our combat system we feel comfortable and bringing out and having our hands on with.” We have to shrink things down. Get very straight forward, very easy, to get people into it. A lot of the design elements and balancing weren’t even in there yet. So, to throw those in and here to play the game, I mean, it makes for an awful experience. But I think at the same time, we simplified things a little bit too much but we didn’t do a good job in explaining the combat. Right now, you play the demo you have X is your hit, Y is your shield bash, A is your block, B will lead you into execution mode. [Pointing to the left triggers] So that’s for your call-outs. This will be like your focus. This [right trigger] is to throw out your pilums. There are other functions in the general combat you’re going to get into. Pressing X will do your standard swing. Holding X down will do a heavier attack or heavy shield bash, for instance, with the other buttons. You also have shield bash and kick or block and kick. When you enter into an execution state, we are going to remove the button prompts that you saw in this version. And they are going to be replaced with visual and audio prompts that people are going to have to learn over time. We have like a hundred executions in the game. Ryse Producer Explains How The Xbox One Game Will Be Different From The E3 Demo I saw on the Ryse Smartglass demo there were 120. I’d say around a hundred. Let’s keep it to about a 100. There’s not a failure state that is associated with the execution. But what is associated with it is, depending on how accurately you get those button presses in time with that, you’re going to get a bigger bonus.

What you need to do before you go into combat, while you are doing combat, it’s what the D-pad comes to play. The D-pad for instance, I don’t know what final buttons that are going to be on this. [Pointing to the D-pad.] Let’s say this is health, this is damage, this is XP, that’s what we call focus. The focus mode, I can’t really go into full details on it, but it’s an interesting piece. Let’s say you’re fighting in the game, you’re hacking a guy down. You’re getting beat from two guys behind. Your health is low. You’re like, damn, what am I going to do. I need health. Health doesn’t regenerate by itself, so I have to perform the execution mode to do that. So I flick on the health, I beat one guy down, and then I try to get those execution states, and I try to get those execution presses in time with that so that I’ll get a larger bonus to get some health back and beat these other two guys. Let’s way I’m doing really well, we have XP for that. You know what, I want to unlock some of the special skills. I want to get higher in that, so I’m going for a XP bonus. You perform those executions and you get a XP bonus. There’s damage modifier and also focus as well.

You can choose between these. What’s going to happen with the button presses is when you go into the execution state, you’ll learn what the execution is over time. Let’s say it’s the right arm swinging, I know if I see the right arm swinging that I need to to press X. He’s going to kick on this, and then I need to learn when the button press is to do Y. And timing that along with it. Depending on the difficulty state that you’re in, it’s going to time it down to how accurate within the number of frames you’re going to have to be in pressing that button to get, to maximize the bonus. I see, but how will I as a player know what button presses to make? It kind of reminds me of learning Mortal Kombat’s fatalities without someone telling you what they are. Like up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A. I’m awful at fighting games. I’m really bad.

Ryse Producer Explains How The Xbox One Game Will Be Different From The E3 Demo Is this why Smartglass and the hint videos is going to be so important? I don’t think in terms of being “so important.” You have the help element that comes into play. You know you asking your friends, “Hey how do you do this?” You can share a video online with that. That’s not the only thing, but in terms of showcasing this is a first iteration of what we’ve been doing with the Smartglass technology and integrating it into the game. They show a much different thing like with Dead Rising [3] for instance where you can call an air strike. What we showcased with the Ryse stuff, we didn’t want to get in that extra kind of stuff that really wasn’t working with what we’re trying to do with our game, but more to help Microsoft in building the menu experience that can build into the Xbox itself, and some of the cloud features that will be available. Going back to learning the executions, let’s say I just unlocked an execution. How long does it take to learn it?

It will take you a little bit of time to learn it. I’m sure there’s going to be videos on YouTube uploaded to it. We talked about how it aggregate the videos and screenshots that kind of stuff where people can kind of show you where timings are and how that works. But again, like I said, there are going to be visual and audio cue associated with the executions.

Now, when you unlock a new execution and you do it for the first time, you probably not going to hit that bang on the first couple of times you do it. Then maybe you’re going to get to a point you are going to go, “Ah, I know when these button timings are.” It times in. we’ve done that because we want to time it in with the general combat itself. We don’t want to break the flow of combat, in general. Everything we’ve talked about has been quite different from what I played. I know. It was such a small core bit of what we were showing in the gameplay itself, and you know, maybe we should have shown more. Maybe we should have done a hands off piece and gone into a lot more detail.

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source: Siliconera

Iceman · Jul 23, 2013

zenith16 said: ↑

Ryse Producer Explains How The Xbox One Game Will Be Different From The E3 Demo. July 22, 2013 . 6:23pm

Ryse producer Michael Read outlines what combat will be like the final game and it wont have button prompts floating overhead. Ryse also has a system where you can recover health by doing executions or if youre doing well you can earn bonus XP.

source: Siliconera
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Microsoft & the guys working on their exclusive games have managed their marketing so poorly so far. These guys shouldn't have demoed with those button prompts visible as it led to 60% of people instantly writing the game off as a QTE fest and not giving it a chance.

Poetic Chaos · Jul 23, 2013

I don't get the hate this is receiving. What if it tells an amazing narrative? Since when was combat gameplay the last word on a game? If that's the case, Skyrim and Walking Dead were awful. I'm fine with button prompts. It's more interactive than mashing the same button 4 times and getting a canned animated finisher.

Octoberist · Jul 23, 2013

I have to admit that the game has that strange vibe that it'll be forgotten a few years from now.

HardBawl · Jul 24, 2013

Ryse looks so awesome, I can't wait to play it. It's the Roman General Gladiator game I've always wanted to play, ever since the movie Gladiator, now I get to be Maximus and I will be entertained !

I know the on stage E3 demo showed what many felt was a lot of QTEs, but those were the execution moves which are optional, as Crytek developers have explained, and the person demoing it just got over happy and carried away with it.

That said it will certainly be toned down, but other than that, the game looks absolutely phenomenal, 10/10. I can't wait to buy it and play it, day one !

DAY ONE SON!

Iceman · Jul 24, 2013

Poetic Chaos said: ↑

I don't get the hate this is receiving. What if it tells an amazing narrative? Since when was combat gameplay the last word on a game? If that's the case, Skyrim and Walking Dead were awful. I'm fine with button prompts. It's more interactive than mashing the same button 4 times and getting a canned animated finisher.
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A lot of that was people looking to bash Microsoft's conference finding an admittedly easy way to discount the game. But the demo should not have included those prompts as it can easily be written off as a QTE game by anyone wanting to write off the game.

Soapy · Jul 24, 2013

Poetic Chaos said: ↑

I don't get the hate this is receiving. What if it tells an amazing narrative?
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A: It won't.

B: I don't care.

Since when was combat gameplay the last word on a game?
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When a developer claims their game will be focused on combat, the combat gameplay had better be pretty ****ing good.

If that's the case, Skyrim and Walking Dead were awful.
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Neither of those games are heavily focused on combat.

The bottom line for me with Ryse is that the multitude of QTEs aren't so much a problem on their own, but rather a symptom of a much greater problem, not only with Ryse, but with gaming in general.

But no one wants to hear about that, so I'll just leave you guys to it.

jacobed · Jul 25, 2013

How the hell do you know it won't have a great storyline. For all we know it could have the greatest story and characters we'be ever witnessed in a game. And seriously Skyrim not combat focused? Thats all you do in that game. They've said many times the qtes are not only optional but not a big part of the game like they showed. It has a deep system but it was implemented in time for e3.

HardBawl · Jul 25, 2013

Iceman said: ↑

A lot of that was people looking to bash Microsoft's conference finding an admittedly easy way to discount the game. But the demo should not have included those prompts as it can easily be written off as a QTE game by anyone wanting to write off the game.
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Agreed. 100% with you man !

But let me add this, a lot of people were going to bash Microsoft's pressor to begin with no matter what they showed, but the majority and the original core of those people stem from a very loud, and very vocal Sony fanboy/employee paid presence on the internet and in the industry.

Game site boards are another form of advertisement that can in theory help generate buzz and swing momentum for a particular user base, and of course brain wash the weak minded in the masses, that don't have the ability to think as an individual and for themselves and tend to just follow the crowd.

I know and have proof for a fact Sony pays to spread propaganda on the internet as a form of advertising. They have plants on all the sites, corporate shills posing as regular users.

That said, the other nay sayers were of course Game Stop people and even Gamefly, afraid of the DRM licensing and blocking of used games, and shutting down their business, and lastly, just plain good old fashioned jealous fanboys and trolls.

But yeah, anyway, Crytek is known for making amazing looking games to begin with, obviously, and this game is by no means an exception. It looks absolutely stunning.

I love how this game also doesn't have any fantasy elements or magic, its a pure Roman conquest, conqueror, warrior, campaign game.

The combat has already been compared to the Batman Arkham games in terms of game play and controls.

This game is looking to shape up to be a 10/10 and a BIG WIN for Microsoft, I'd buy the system for this game alone, thankfully Microsoft has plenty others I'm interested in too !

Can't wait for Xbox One !

Tron Bonne · Jul 25, 2013

HardBawl said: ↑

Agreed. 100% with you man !

But let me add this, a lot of people were going to bash Microsoft's pressor to begin with no matter what they showed, but the majority and the original core of those people stem from a very loud, and very vocal Sony fanboy/employee paid presence on the internet and in the industry.

Game site boards are another form of advertisement that can in theory help generate buzz and swing momentum for a particular user base, and of course brain wash the weak minded in the masses, that don't have the ability to think as an individual and for themselves and tend to just follow the crowd.

I know and have proof for a fact Sony pays to spread propaganda on the internet as a form of advertising. They have plants on all the sites, corporate shills posing as regular users.

That said, the other nay sayers were of course Game Stop people and even Gamefly, afraid of the DRM licensing and blocking of used games, and shutting down their business, and lastly, just plain good old fashioned jealous fanboys and trolls.
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lol

HardBawl · Jul 25, 2013

Someone has to call em out for the ones that are willing to accept the blue pill instead of the reality red pill of The Matrix.

Keep it real, and think for yourself!

Tron Bonne · Jul 25, 2013

Yeah, well, I got no problems believing you took some pills before writing all of that.

ThePowerCosmic · Jul 25, 2013

HardBawl said: ↑

Agreed. 100% with you man !

But let me add this, a lot of people were going to bash Microsoft's pressor to begin with no matter what they showed, but the majority and the original core of those people stem from a very loud, and very vocal Sony fanboy/employee paid presence on the internet and in the industry.

Game site boards are another form of advertisement that can in theory help generate buzz and swing momentum for a particular user base, and of course brain wash the weak minded in the masses, that don't have the ability to think as an individual and for themselves and tend to just follow the crowd.

I know and have proof for a fact Sony pays to spread propaganda on the internet as a form of advertising. They have plants on all the sites, corporate shills posing as regular users.

That said, the other nay sayers were of course Game Stop people and even Gamefly, afraid of the DRM licensing and blocking of used games, and shutting down their business, and lastly, just plain good old fashioned jealous fanboys and trolls.

But yeah, anyway, Crytek is known for making amazing looking games to begin with, obviously, and this game is by no means an exception. It looks absolutely stunning.

I love how this game also doesn't have any fantasy elements or magic, its a pure Roman conquest, conqueror, warrior, campaign game.

The combat has already been compared to the Batman Arkham games in terms of game play and controls.

This game is looking to shape up to be a 10/10 and a BIG WIN for Microsoft, I'd buy the system for this game alone, thankfully Microsoft has plenty others I'm interested in too !

Can't wait for Xbox One !
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Okay, so where is this proof?

Soapy · Jul 29, 2013

jacobed said: ↑

How the hell do you know it won't have a great storyline.
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It's an educated guess based on past experience.

For all we know it could have the greatest story and characters we'be ever witnessed in a game.
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Highly unlikely.

And seriously Skyrim not combat focused? Thats all you do in that game.
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Nope. I spent most of my time exploring.

They've said many times the qtes are not only optional but not a big part of the game like they showed. It has a deep system but it was implemented in time for e3.
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I find that hard to believe, but we'll see.

Iceman · Aug 5, 2013

I've been playing Resident Evil 5 & 6 recently so am getting fed up with QTEs! But those are failable QTES where you have to redo a section if you don't get it and they can also have very strict time windows. If QTEs aren't overly difficult or if it doesn't matter if you fail them I don't think I'd have a problem with them, as looks the case here. What matters is how the base combat plays out. I don't mind being able to button bash a bit as long as there are 9 or 10 great moves you can string together.

Dark_Lord · Aug 20, 2013

Gladiator Mode trailer

and...

"After a hands-on with the latest build on the eve of Gamescom, however, I have good news: there's no need to worry about Ryse: Son of Rome. The combat has plenty of depth, and the AI is aggressive enough that you'll be challenged plenty. Oh, and QTEs are merely optional finishing moves, with the giant button prompt over a foe's head replaced by a subtle colored outline around the not-long-for-this-world bad guy that corresponds to the button you're supposed to press in order to nail the best execution."

More at IGN.com

Iceman · Aug 20, 2013

Could be a fun mode but still can't really fully tell how it plays.

And as for that comment above on QTE's the game has officially been branded a QTE-fest by those who saw it for a few minutes at E3 and I don't think there's any way back for those fellows (who probably were never going to be buying XB1 anyway t. Even though Arkham Asylum looks pretty much the same with the overhead prompts on the standard difficulty setting.

But this is encouraging and I hope there is depth to the combat so it doesn't get repetitive like many other hack and slash / melee fighter games.

zenith16 · Aug 20, 2013

Ryse revised: How Crytek altered combat for the better

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Many people really latched onto Ryse: Son of Rome's execution system when Crytek showed off the game at E3 earlier this year but probably not in the way the developer wanted them to. Ryse's executions, which grant the player various in-game perks and see protagonist Marius stabbing, gouging, slicing, bashing and otherwise maiming barbarians are performed via short quick time events. Even though the majority of Ryse's combat has an ebb and flow similar to the Batman Arkham games flurries of attacks sprinkled with timely parries many prospective players, myself included, worried about the QTE-infused combat getting stale.

Crytek has responded to those concerns, and the build of Ryse being shown at Gamescom has a significantly altered execution system. Gone are the garish button prompts. Instead, enemies are subtly highlighted with the color of the appropriate button: Yellow for the shield (Y) and blue for the sword (X). By watching Marius' animations and keeping an eye out for each color, I easily slipped into the rhythm of various executions, something I can't say about the E3 build I played in June.

The E3 reaction didn't directly inspire the changes to the execution system, design director Patrick Esteves tells me, but it definitely played a part. "We were already down a course. We already knew where executions were going. And, of course, in game development, we have to figure out what's the best way to do something."

"People don't like the idea of a QTE-based combat system. Thank God we're not a QTE-based combat system," says Esteves, alluding to the fact that there is more to Ryse's combat than people may have perceived from the E3 demo. Just as I did in June, players will eventually discover that the combat is more about a dance-like back-and-forth between Marius and foes than it is about executions. "That was the first thing," says Esteves, "and the second thing is, is the communication language good enough for the game?" Crytek decided it wasn't. Continue Reading

source:JoyStiq

HardBawl · Aug 20, 2013

day one purchase, no brainer!

take my money now!

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