Saw VI discussion thread

[Nirvana]

The more I think about Saw V the more I like it and the entire series in general. The series hasn't disappointed me at all and that makes me very happy. I'm really looking forward to the final chapter.

 

[Jokerthug]

Question, when Jill goes to Strahm's superior and says that a detective is following her, did that actually happen? I only remember Strahm looking through files and stuff so I just assumed it happened off screen but I'm thinking maybe she was the one who wrote the note to Hoffman and lied about Strahm following her to get all three men in the building together.

That is something they wanted to leave open for people to think about... whatever has in the box Jill opened, was part of the same plan that caused her to say the Strahm was following her... We just don't know why yet.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Hey everyone,

Someone posted a video of new theories regarding Dr. Gordon appearing in SAW VI.

All I ask is that those who hate or hated the films either avoid this thread or don't contribute to it unless it's something intelligent. He put together some interesting videos and I just ask that you watch, listen, and analyze with him on what he has to say.

Now I will say there are certain things that I was able to prove wrong because some of the theories were proven to be Jigsaw. But as I said, listen to what he has to say. It's very, very interesting.

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[AlteredEgo]

the thing with dr. gordon is that it all either comes down to whether the actor wants to return or not, rather then if the plot has been leading up to it. that is, unless they just go ahead and recast him for the sake of the story.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

the thing with dr. gordon is that it all either comes down to whether the actor wants to return or not, rather then if the plot has been leading up to it. that is, unless they just go ahead and recast him for the sake of the story.

Well last I heard/read Cary said he would love to return to the SAW franchise and said he holds no bitterness towards them. So at this moment it's anyones guess.

Personally I'm against the idea of recasting him since he's already an established character and people already have an image of him in their heads.

 

[StrainedEyes]

I completely agree with Gordan being the guy who slit Tapp's throat. He really doesn't sound like Tobin in that scene.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I completely agree with Gordan being the guy who slit Tapp's throat. He really doesn't sound like Tobin in that scene.

Well if you remember they did show a quick flashback of Jigsaw with his hands up as if he was confronted by Tapp and Sing. However, that is anyones guess at this moment. Personally I think it's actually Jigsaw disguising his voice so no one will recognize him.

Remember Tapp had already seen Gordon prior to interrogating him. Tapp would've seen his face and would've recognized him. Hence why I do believe it was Jigsaw.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Well if you remember they did show a quick flashback of Jigsaw with his hands up as if he was confronted by Tapp and Sing. However, that is anyones guess at this moment. Personally I think it's actually Jigsaw disguising his voice so no one will recognize him.

Remember Tapp had already seen Gordon prior to interrogating him. Tapp would've seen his face and would've recognized him. Hence why I do believe it was Jigsaw.

They knew it was jigsaw, they have his tapes, why would he try to hide his voice? They caught him red handed.

Tapp recognizing him is the point the video guy makes right after that scene. It explains why Tapp instantly gets obsessed with Gordon.

I don't remember all the quick flashes from all of the films.

 

[nocomics]

They knew it was jigsaw, they have his tapes, why would he try to hide his voice? They caught him red handed.

Tapp recognizing him is the point the video guy makes right after that scene. It explains why Tapp instantly gets obsessed with Gordon.

I don't remember all the quick flashes from all of the films.

I think he gets obsessed with Dr. Gordon because he found his pen at the one trap,and thats probably the closest hes gotten to finding Jiggs. So he gets obsessed with Gordon,plus as he dropped Gordon off at his home Tapp mentions another Dr. in his neighborhood who had 'problems'..So, hes assuming that it has to be Dr.Gordon...
I don't buy that it was Dr.Gordon who slit Tapps throat, wasn't Gordon still in his trap at that time???
I'd be all for Dr.Gordon to return in Saw VI,if it made sence,and they could explain away everything including(amanda/Hoffman)etc....

 

[AlteredEgo]

i just think it would be such a cop out if Gordon came back. :/
at this point im not even hoping for such a large twist at the end as much as i am just a good ending to the series.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

I think he gets obsessed with Dr. Gordon because he found his pen at the one trap,and thats probably the closest hes gotten to finding Jiggs. So he gets obsessed with Gordon,plus as he dropped Gordon off at his home Tapp mentions another Dr. in his neighborhood who had 'problems'..So, hes assuming that it has to be Dr.Gordon...
I don't buy that it was Dr.Gordon who slit Tapps throat, wasn't Gordon still in his trap at that time???
I'd be all for Dr.Gordon to return in Saw VI,if it made sence,and they could explain away everything including(amanda/Hoffman)etc....

Well the timeline for when Jigsaw slit Tapp's throat wasn't really established.

But I definitely think it would've been Gordon since Tapp already seen him prior to that confrontation and would've recognized him.

@AlteredEgo- I don't think it'd be a cop out. Since he's the only character with no established fate you know? So I believe if they showed him dead or alive working with Jigsaw would be an exciting and suspenseful twist if they do it right.

 

[StrainedEyes]

I think he gets obsessed with Dr. Gordon because he found his pen at the one trap,and thats probably the closest hes gotten to finding Jiggs. So he gets obsessed with Gordon,plus as he dropped Gordon off at his home Tapp mentions another Dr. in his neighborhood who had 'problems'..So, hes assuming that it has to be Dr.Gordon...
I don't buy that it was Dr.Gordon who slit Tapps throat, wasn't Gordon still in his trap at that time???
I'd be all for Dr.Gordon to return in Saw VI,if it made sence,and they could explain away everything including(amanda/Hoffman)etc....

If it took place when Dr. Gordon was in the trap, there's a pretty good chance that Jigsaw was in the trap with him.

The Gordon trap took place the night that his family was under attack, which is the night that Tapp was watching his house. So it's obvious that Tapp's throat slit took place much earlier, giving him time to heal, go crazy and stake out Gordon's house.

I'd completely buy it being Gordon, Tapp seeing his face and recognizing him. Then no one believed his accusations, so he took it into his own hands to stake him out and get revenge.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

If it took place when Dr. Gordon was in the trap, there's a pretty good chance that Jigsaw was in the trap with him.

The Gordon trap took place the night that his family was under attack, which is the night that Tapp was watching his house. So it's obvious that Tapp's throat slit took place much earlier, giving him time to heal, go crazy and stake out Gordon's house.

I'd completely buy it being Gordon, Tapp seeing his face and recognizing him. Then no one believed his accusations, so he took it into his own hands to stake him out and get revenge.

Would Gordon be insane enough to do it though? Wouldn't Tapp have recognized him earlier though? However it would be interesting to think that Gordon may've sawed his foot off to prove his loyalty to Jigsaw.

I guess I could buy Gordon doing it since he did hold resentment towards Tapp specifically.

 

[StrainedEyes]

Would Gordon be insane enough to do it though? Wouldn't Tapp have recognized him earlier though? However it would be interesting to think that Gordon may've sawed his foot off to prove his loyalty to Jigsaw.

I guess I could buy Gordon doing it since he did hold resentment towards Tapp specifically.

What do you mean he would have recognized him earlier? In the throat slashing scene? Even if he did recognize him right away, there's nothing in the scene that says he didn't recognize him as Dr. Gordon. So he came in, held him up, saw who he was, kept holding him up, focused on trying to save that guy's life, then got his throat cut.

 

[Aniland]

Hello everyone. I am the poster of the videos that you've been viewing and discussing. I would just like to make two thank yous: a. Thank you Sunrise, for bringing the attention of my videos to the forum. I would also like to thank b. the people who share the same belief with me that Gordon is still alive. I really am hoping for the best, and Gordon being the final accomplice would just be grand.

I have ONE more video I'll be putting up for sure about Gordon. It will touch upon clues in Saw V, as well as clues I've missed throughout the series.

Until then, I hope for the discussion to continue! Viva la Lawrence Gordon!

 

[AlteredEgo]

okay, watched the video, well the first one so far, and as for the comment about Jigsaw hating 'murderers' and then asking Dr. Gordon to murder being contradictory, didnt Amanda have to kill somebody as well?

second point, the one about gordon possibly being the one who slits Tapps throat. I, honestly think thats an awesome idea, but most probably i think the slight voice difference and the 'attempted murder' can be attributed to Jigsaw's character not being totally fleshed out at this point. as the series progresses you can hear Jigsaw kind of adapt his "Jigsaw voice" you know what i mean? also i thought Tapp thought Gordon was Jigsy was because Jigs had framed him earlier on.

and i understand that they havent shown anything of Gordon or his family since the first movie, and i want to know the end of his story just as bad as every body else, but i do think that the actor not returning had more to do with money then with moving the plot forward. and although many of the clues very well may point to Gordon being the ultimate Jigsaw or whatever originally, I think along the way they may have had to scrap that idea.

 

[gwynplaine]

Still haven't seen the last one, I've seen all the others and imo Saw is a pretty good franchise, not great but more consistent than most other horror franchise I know.

 

[Aniland]

Why wouldn't they have just wrapped the Gordon thing up by saying "He's dead." It makes no sense for them to not.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

Why wouldn't they have just wrapped the Gordon thing up by saying "He's dead." It makes no sense for them to not.

Exactly my point. Why would they continue to avoid showing what happened to him? It makes no sense to all of a sudden have his fae be tied into a video game release.

If anything I believe he'll be revealed to be an accomplice or maybe dead.

I'm all for leaving things to the imagination of the film viewer, however, at the same time I think it's fascinating to think of what might've happened to him in the long run. Like I wouldn't have shown what happened to Adam. In my opinion it was much more frightening believing and thinking that Adam literally just died and rotted away in the bathroom.

 

[AlteredEgo]

Why wouldn't they have just wrapped the Gordon thing up by saying "He's dead." It makes no sense for them to not.

like i said, i think originally, they may have intended him to come back at some point. but after awhile, they were just like, "**** it", lets let the audience wonder.

Exactly my point. Why would they continue to avoid showing what happened to him? It makes no sense to all of a sudden have his fae be tied into a video game release.

If anything I believe he'll be revealed to be an accomplice or maybe dead.

I'm all for leaving things to the imagination of the film viewer, however, at the same time I think it's fascinating to think of what might've happened to him in the long run. Like I wouldn't have shown what happened to Adam. In my opinion it was much more frightening believing and thinking that Adam literally just died and rotted away in the bathroom.

i actually kind of like how they showed what happened. well i enjoyed the progress in the story it made, showing Amanda's weakness for emotion.

 

[LastSunrise1981]

like i said, i think originally, they may have intended him to come back at some point. but after awhile, they were just like, "**** it", lets let the audience wonder.



i actually kind of like how they showed what happened. well i enjoyed the progress in the story it made, showing Amanda's weakness for emotion.

I honestly think it's to a point where they have to show what happened to him. Fans and non-fans are wanting to know and I think at this point they would be satisfied with a dead body or an autopsy of some sort.

I remember one of my co-workers after seeing SAW V asked me "have they ever showed what happened to the doctor who sawed his foot off?" Obviusly fans and non-fans want to know. I think we'll receive some form of confirmation in the next film.

 

[AlteredEgo]

I honestly think it's to a point where they have to show what happened to him. Fans and non-fans are wanting to know and I think at this point they would be satisfied with a dead body or an autopsy of some sort.

I remember one of my co-workers after seeing SAW V asked me "have they ever showed what happened to the doctor who sawed his foot off?" Obviusly fans and non-fans want to know. I think we'll receive some form of confirmation in the next film.

yeah i think they have to at this point, but i would believe that they opt to tell that story in the video game rather then the movie, just for general casting reasons as well as the general direction of the franchise right now.

 

[TheFuture]

I was disappointed by what I can only describe as the "filler of the franchise" that was Saw V. But alas, I have faith that they can go out on a high with Saw VI. Good theories on Gordon too lads.

I will if Jill turns out to be some sort of accomplice, it's too easy!

 

[nocomics]

I honestly think it's to a point where they have to show what happened to him. Fans and non-fans are wanting to know and I think at this point they would be satisfied with a dead body or an autopsy of some sort.

I remember one of my co-workers after seeing SAW V asked me "have they ever showed what happened to the doctor who sawed his foot off?" Obviusly fans and non-fans want to know. I think we'll receive some form of confirmation in the next film.

I seriously hope they confirm his outcome in SAW VI,at any length of discussion. I think people got attached to Dr.Gordon and u add 5 more films of this people like to finish that story arc. To me alot of it has to do with how they portray Jiggs motives,and how the directors like to finish off stories in next movie. For some reason they never closed off that story arc with Gordon,not sure if it was planned that way or if it just soo happened that way????

I was disappointed by what I can only describe as the "filler of the franchise" that was Saw V. But alas, I have faith that they can go out on a high with Saw VI. Good theories on Gordon too lads.

I will if Jill turns out to be some sort of accomplice, it's too easy!

I tend to agree I think Saw V was kindof a filler/backstory on Hoffman,which I guess was okay. I think they needed to deepen the story with SAW VI supposedly being the last one.
Now back to Gordon,maybe they were'nt planning on finishing that story,but with such fan feedback they may have too. Now with Lionsgate saying they might do more than 6 films,it would open up to letting Gordon being the main Jiggs replacement for the next set of films???

 

[Aniland]

But can they REALLY continue the franchise respectably? With Saw VI, the contract will expire, and it will really be up to the writers at that point. I mean...so far, we have confirmation that only two long-term characters are alive (Hoffman and Jill) and then the possibility of Gordon. Either they bring in new people (and ruin it via Butterfly Effect 2, Starship Troopers 2, American Psycho 2, etc.) or they use the remaining characters they have to come to a close.

As LastSunrise here said, how amazing would it be if Hoffman and Jill ended up in the bathroom together as the last and final trap...and both die at the hands of the new Jigsaw killer, Dr. Lawrence Gordon. END. Credits w/ rock music (which they didn't have in Saw V).