Science teacher fired due to previous career as porn star

[Darthphere]

Like someone once said, life isn't fair.

 

[Shemtov]

Part of being a good teacher is not bringing distractions to learning into the classroom. This would qualify.

So all hot teachers should be fired?

 

[bullets]

I'd tell my kids they shouldn't of watched it.

 

[Schlosser85]

She didn't bring it into the classroom.

 

[Darthphere]

The classroom was brought in her.


Wait.

 

[bullets]

I wonder if she's done the classroom scenario in one of her videos.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

If she was actually a good teacher, I think it was a bogus decision. That career was behind her, isn't a person allowed to move on? Especially after 6 years?

There's this

Once her previous career became known, it would almost certainly have undermined her ability to command the attention of her students - not to mention their respect, and that of her peers. That's a big problem.

Of course, I believe that it was the school's responsibility to look into her background before hiring her. This constitutes a failure on the part of the school, regardless of whether she lied.

And then there's this

It won't be easy to keep her past career shut, but it would make a better decision than to give her reason to go back to porn

I remember one image posted in the funny images of a woman reading to kindergarten children, I didn't get the funny until someone said she was a porn star, and I think they knew that before letting her read for children. Doesn't this one deserve a similar chance?

 

[Number 6]

It's a sticky situation, for sure (no pun intended, but I'll take it). Ideally, I would still give her chance. If it became a problem and she was unable to control direction in class and it caused a lot of harassment, then it would have to be dealt with. Alternatively, there's always adult education (again, no pun, but goddamn I'm walking right into it). I'm not sure what kind of educational credentials you need, but I would hope such a thing would be less a problem in that situation.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

So all hot teachers should be fired?

Did you even read what I wrote?

You have to stop jumping to conclusions. Reread what I wrote then think about what you just said.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

It's a sticky situation, for sure (no pun intended, but I'll take it). Ideally, I would still give her chance. If it became a problem and she was unable to control direction in class and it caused a lot of harassment, then it would have to be dealt with. Alternatively, there's always adult education (again, no pun, but goddamn I'm walking right into it). I'm not sure what kind of educational credentials you need, but I would hope such a thing would be less a problem in that situation.

The big problem being a teacher is when your class moves up a grade the next class comes in and the issue rears it's ugly head again. Like you say, very sticky situation. I'd like to be impartial, but life isn't fair, past choices have consequences and unfortunately this seems like a distraction from creating an environment conducive to learning. Sasha Grey reading to a class once is a little different methinks.

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

I have researched her previous career and have found it interesting.

 

[Zatanna]

As much as I'd like to be impartial about her past career, I also don't think I'd like her students to be able to find her movies on the internet if I had a son or daughter in her class.

This is one of the rare times I'll agree with you.

 

[Darthphere]

"OMG, my kid might find her porn stuff on the internet, oh noes!!11" Instead of just having the woman fired, how about you do some actual parenting and control your kids if you're that worried about it. The truth is, parents have an irrational reaction to things like this "She did porn, she's going to sex up my kid!"

 

[The Question]

As much as I'd like to be impartial about her past career, I also don't think I'd like her students to be able to find her movies on the internet if I had a son or daughter in her class.

Them knowing her in real life, under her real name, does not make them any more likely to find that material than they would be if they'd never met her.

The only thing knowing her as their teacher would mean is that if they happen to find that material on their own, which again is in no way effected by her presence, then they are now aware that they know a former sex worker. And that's only a problem because of how our society shames and stigmatizes sex workers.

Decisions you make in life limit your career options later. That's just how life works.

That's how life works because that's how people make it work. That doesn't make it right or sensical. The school board could have chosen for it to not work like that in this instance, and they didn't. That makes them open to criticism.


Fact is, this only became a problem when the school board made it public. When it was just rumors, it should have been ignored. Every teacher has rumors about them floating around the school.

 

[Erzengel]

I did some research, she was pretty good at her previous job.

My teachers never looked liked that.

If she's 32, working in porn is like living in dog years.

 

[Number 6]

The big problem being a teacher is when your class moves up a grade the next class comes in and the issue rears it's ugly head again. Like you say, very sticky situation. I'd like to be impartial, but life isn't fair, past choices have consequences and unfortunately this seems like a distraction from creating an environment conducive to learning. Sasha Grey reading to a class once is a little different methinks.

True, but I don't know, maybe optimistically it'd be something that would dilute over a period of time. I'm sure it'd always be a joke, and there would always be at least a kid or two who would be brave enough to mess with the subject and get sent to the principal, but then it'd blow over. Probably a little too optimistic to look at it.

All that being said, I was serious about teaching adult education. I would assume this kind of thing really wouldn't matter nearly as much to an adult high school aimed at GED studies. Not sure how that kind of career path works, but maybe this would be a legitimate option for a case like this.

 

[Dr.]

Maybe she could teach sex ed.

 

[Number 6]

Lame, bro. One does not "teach" sex ed. One lives, one breathes, and one takes or receives it.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

It's a sticky situation, for sure (no pun intended, but I'll take it). Ideally, I would still give her chance. If it became a problem and she was unable to control direction in class and it caused a lot of harassment, then it would have to be dealt with. Alternatively, there's always adult education (again, no pun, but goddamn I'm walking right into it). I'm not sure what kind of educational credentials you need, but I would hope such a thing would be less a problem in that situation.

Unless things get worse

"OMG, my kid might find her porn stuff on the internet, oh noes!!11" Instead of just having the woman fired, how about you do some actual parenting and control your kids if you're that worried about it. The truth is, parents have an irrational reaction to things like this "She did porn, she's going to sex up my kid!"

There goes "Everybody loves a story of redemption" down the tubes

 

[Number 6]

Worse in what way?

 

[SpideyVille]

As ThePhantasm says though, there is a line you cross.

Part of being a good teacher is not bringing distractions to learning into the classroom. This would qualify.

I can agree with this, but at the same time, I wonder if there is a difference between a positive distraction and a negative one, and whether that is subjective or not. For example, a couple of years ago, I took a college course that was taught by Kevin Bacon's brother, Michael. It was an honors course about music, and he is actually a well known film composer. On one hand, it was a bit of a distraction because he Kevin Bacon's freaking brother and that was awesome. But at the same time, he was a good professor, and had we not known who his brother was, it would have made us focus more on his class and not his identity.

 

[Number 6]

Micheal Bacon. Professor Bacon. I like it.

 

[terry78]

Even if he wasn't Kevin Bacon's brother, he would have worked with someone who worked with Bacon before.

 

[Number 6]

Oh man, I really don't envy that guy's job.

 

[Optimus_Prime_]

I can agree with this, but at the same time, I wonder if there is a difference between a positive distraction and a negative one, and whether that is subjective or not. For example, a couple of years ago, I took a college course that was taught by Kevin Bacon's brother, Michael. It was an honors course about music, and he is actually a well known film composer. On one hand, it was a bit of a distraction because he Kevin Bacon's freaking brother and that was awesome. But at the same time, he was a good professor, and had we not known who his brother was, it would have made us focus more on his class and not his identity.

Well that's different. By law you're required to have six degrees of separation between you and Kevin Bacon. So it was only a matter of time before you crossed paths with someone who crossed paths with Kevin Bacon.