SDCC: The Spirit

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Superherohype's main page reported on Miller's panel at the con, and he really took the opportunity to reveal just how faithful he is being to the source material...

"Miller talked a bit about the basic plot of the film; Police officer Denny Colt is nearly killed by a bullet wound but awakens to find himself in "a new reality," able to do things he couldn't before. In addition to incredible endurance, Colt's pheromones have been altered, causing mutual attraction between himself and any woman he meets.

"A major part of the story is how tough he is and why's he's so tough," offered Miller
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Yep. Sounds like Einser's The Spirit to me. :whatever:


Can't wait to hear Miller's two fans on here... "Those are great changes!"
 
i'm not much aware of the spirit's powers but I just assumed he became a rather tough guy, but doens't have exactly like an incredible endurance type super-power.. and Pheromones??? does Spirit actually have this lame ass power?
 
To all haters/bashers/trollers...Does that sound like The Spirit?
 
No.

In Miller's *********ory adolescent boy fantasy land, the power to make women want to have sex with you because they are nothing but objects is a great idea...

But, Denny Colt (The Spirit) does not have any powers, let alone one THAT ******ed.

Miller just played his "I'm a hack" card.
 
http://www.superherohype.com/news/spiritnews.php?id=7541

SDCC: The Spirit Panel

Source: Silas Lesnick
July 25, 2008


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Frank Miller opened The Spirit panel at the San Diego Comic-Con, taking the stage and recalling the story of his long-running friendship with sequential art legend Will Eisner. Miller's words were heartfelt to the point that he sounded somewhat choked up in discussing his departed friend.

Joined by producer Deborah Del Prete, there was a short talk about Miller's vision of the project, bringing about The Spirit in a manner that would capture Eisner's original intent if not matching the look exactly.

The same trailer we've already seen was screened first and the audience seemed to respond pretty positively. Miller used the trailer to segue directly into the first introduction of an actor, Samuel L. Jackson, who plays the villianous Octopus in the film.

Miller and Jackson joked back and forth that the hardest part of their job was coming up with bigger and bigger guns. The Octopus begins with large weapons in the first place but Jackson insisted that each time he appeared, they be larger and larger to the point that enormous made-up ones had to be built from hand.

Jackson also joked with the audience about playing Nick Fury. "You know, when I was a kid," he said, deadpan serious, "Nick Fury was a white man. I'm so glad he evolved into something that finally made sense to me."

"But don't worry!" he promised, "You, too, can grow up to be a black man!"

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Jaime King and Gabriel Macht joined the stage next and the first all-new footage was screened. This bit showed Eva Mendes as Sand Saref in a skin-tight wetsuit. She battles with the Octopus on the edge of the water and then dives underneath where she and a diver are trying to retrieve a sunken chest. They dodge bullets from the Octopus' gun, though the diver is clipped in the arm. With the Octopus jumping in the water after them, the two swim and come to the surface inside some kind of darkened building. The diver says to Mendes, "It's the Octopus. You know what he can do."

She replies, "Shut up and bleed."

Miller explained to the crowd that the scene was shot with a new kind of camera that allows for enough frames per-second to simulate the floating-effect of hair in water. Miller told Mendes to "act like the Flash" so that her movements could be slowed down in the final version to simulate underwater bits.

Miller talked a bit about the basic plot of the film; Police officer Denny Colt is nearly killed by a bullet wound but awakens to find himself in "a new reality," able to do things he couldn't before. In addition to incredible endurance, Colt's pheromones have been altered, causing mutual attraction between himself and any woman he meets.

"A major part of the story is how tough he is and why's he's so tough," offered Miller.

On that note, Miller showed a clip of The Spirit with Sarah Paulson's Ellen Dolan in an office. She comes on to him, telling him, "Keep the mask on. Something tells me it might be better that way."

Ellen tells the Spirit, "But we don't even know your real name."

To that he responds, "I'll tell you my real name," just as a Detective shows up with an new assignment and a heavily Baltimore-accented sexy assistant. After they all leave together, Dolan furiously throws a scalpel into their exit door.

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Frank explained that the Octopus' henchman are all clones and -- as a result -- have limited intelligence. All are played by Louis Lombardi and are consistently hurt or killed throughout the film in creative ways.

He also stressed the "nevertime" of the setting. Though there are a lot of references to the '40s and '50s, cell phones still exist and time is wholly indeterminate.

The final clip features the Octopus battling the Spirit in sewage. Jackson hits him with a severed head, a cinderblock and then a giant wrench. The Spirit seems to get the upper for the moment, beating the Octopus into the brown water when the villain pops up again from out of nowhere and slams a toilet down on his foe. With the ring of the seat, stuck around the Spirit, the Octopus laughs uproariously.

"Come on," he shouts, "Toilets are always funny."

The Spirit hits theaters on December 25.
 
No.

In Miller's *********ory adolescent boy fantasy land, the power to make women want to have sex with you because they are nothing but objects is a great idea...

You seem to be projecting a lot of your own stereotypes into Miller's work. There is no evidence of sexism in the film. Miller's known to make female characters both sexy AND strong.

But, Denny Colt (The Spirit) does not have any powers, let alone one THAT ******ed.
What's ******ed about pheromones?

Miller just played his "I'm a hack" card.
Ah. Name calling. :whatever:
 
Sex powers. Ha ha ha

Miller gave a guy with no superpowers, whatsoever, the most stereotypically Frank Miller-esque superpower ever invented...

Superpower: TOUGH GUY who EVERY WOMAN WANTS TO GIVE THEIR BODY TO! :hehe:

He's a HACK.

And, what's great, is that even though you have too much pride to admit it... Miller just made you believe that, too.


Sex Powers...

:hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe::hehe:
 
I just saw the clip on youtube!! I liked it!!:up:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1PRwMXGWNI



Which did you like better?

The fact that Ellen apparently didn't know Denny before the Dr. Cobra incident, according to Frank 'stayin faithful' Miller...?

Or, the fact that Frank 'I love Eisner's work' Miller gave Denny a Superpower... the Superpower to make women want to have sex with him...?




I like the cinematography and the acting, and although, some shots of Denny's face make the mask look horrid, overall, the footage LOOKS good.

Miller's story, on the other hand, is proven to be worse every time Lion's Gate is foolish enough to let the man speak in public.

I've never griped about the art direction, other than the lack of a blue suit and I do want Dolan's hair curl :-)oldrazz:)... I agree with Rogue Trooper that the over saturated color scheme makes everything monochromatic like Sky Captain, which is a GREAT way to film this, but the alterations to the characters are just getting worse by the day.
 
Which did you like better?

The fact that Ellen apparently didn't know Denny before the Dr. Cobra incident, according to Frank 'stayin faithful' Miller...?

Or, the fact that Frank 'I love Eisner's work' Miller gave Denny a Superpower... the Superpower to make women want to have sex with him...?

I liked everything about the clip.:yay: The complaints you have, to me, aren't that crucial.
 
I liked everything about the clip.:yay: The complaints you have, to me, aren't that crucial.


You mean, other than the fact that you've been swearing up and down that Miller isn't changing anything... and HE is proving you wrong...?

Super-sex-and-tough-guy-powers?

Not knowing Ellen?

That's just one clip...
 
You mean, other than the fact that you've been swearing up and down that Miller isn't changing anything... and HE is proving you wrong...?

Super-sex-and-tough-guy-powers?

Not knowing Ellen?

That's just one clip...

First of all, I never swore anything.:cwink:

Also, I never suggested that Miller wasn't going to change things. What I did suggest was that Miller was going to keep within the essence of the character.
 
Miller's keeping it alright.

SUPERPOWERS!!!!!!!

That's SO Eisner.



On a separate note, since one of our sides needs to be objective... the sewage scene is great. The snow, the action... the toilet ring.

I wish Octopus were slightly more classy, like in the book, but there would be no action if all he did were drop grenades and run away, muttering to himself. :oldrazz:

But... SUPERPOWERS? And the power is to be a tough guy and have sex?

Good Lord, Miller misses the mark.
 
Miller's keeping it alright.

SUPERPOWERS!!!!!!!

That's SO Eisner.



On a separate note, since one of our sides needs to be objective... the sewage scene is great. The snow, the action... the toilet ring.

I wish Octopus were slightly more classy, like in the book, but there would be no action if all he did were drop grenades and run away, muttering to himself. :oldrazz:

But... SUPERPOWERS? And the power is to be a tough guy and have sex?

Good Lord, Miller misses the mark.


Dude, you make it sound like it's some kind of Silver Surfer-like cosmic superpower rays or beams which he'll unleash from his hands or something.:whatever:

The abilities he gains are but a simple avatar of what there is already in the comic. Remember organic web-shooters? Again, it's within the essence.

....and I dissagree, Sam Jackson looks as classy as they come.:oldrazz:
 
As a Nazi? Classy?


Your problems are worse than we all thought. :woot:



Oh... and just to mention them again... SEX POWERS!!! :oldrazz:
 
As a Nazi? Classy?


Your problems are worse than we all thought. :woot:



Oh... and just to mention them again... SEX POWERS!!! :oldrazz:

Yeah, I'm actually just getting ready for today's neo-nazi rally, you know what I'm saying.:whatever: Geeze!! I already stated in a previous post that the nazi suit was the only one that I thought looked odd.

In the comics The Spirit attracts all the femmes. Again, it's an avatar of what's already there.
 
This news saddens me more than I can express. I was hoping up to this point that what I was seeing was just bad promos and editing of scenes. But to hear Miller confirm that the Spirit now has some "powers" and that it is set in "a new reality".....very sad indeed.
 
But, to be fair... story/plot/dialogue/costumes/Miller aside... the actual footage is cool looking.
 
Is he saying The Spirit never dies in this movie?! That he gets shot..and is near death?

Because how the hell do you then explain him coming back!

I am getting confused by some of these plot changes....
 
The Spirit coming out of the water immediately reminded me of this:

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:up:
 
Is he saying The Spirit never dies in this movie?! That he gets shot..and is near death?

Because how the hell do you then explain him coming back!

I am getting confused by some of these plot changes....


Agreed. That really seems to be an area where Miller is not wording things in a way that makes that particular part of the plot clear.

With Ellen not knowing Denny and the wording saying he gets shot and is *injured*... it makes the whole idea of becoming a "Spirit" with the need for a secret identity because everyone thinks you're dead seem rather out of the question... for now. The film isn't out yet, so other than the obvious blunder of not having a pre-existing relationship with Ellen... it might be somewhat accurate.

The wording is frightening, tho.
 

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