Season 6 Episode 1 Discussion "The Red Woman"

Pretty good episode.

I liked the Castle Black and Bolton stuff. Dorne stuff wasn't bad, just the weird unexplained appearance of the Sand Snakes in Trystane's cabin.

Dany stuff was good, just because it's something different for her. Mereen was getting stale, but now it should be decent with Varys and Tyrion there to root out the harpies. It's not really clear if Tyrion has command of the second sons and unsullied though. Assuming he does. It would be interesting if word of Tyrion ruling Mereen gets back to Cercei and Jamie.

The Melisandre scene was awesome. A bit disgusting, but eerie and well done with the mirror.

Brienne saving Sansa was good, a bit lucky, but finally a satisfying win for the good guys after a bleak season last year.

I didnt feel sorry for Cercei mourning over Myrcella. In fact I was kind of happy to see her run to the dock like a kid on xmas, knowing she was about to be torn down even more.

Lannisters are in a bit more trouble than they realise I believe. If they send the army to fight the Boltons the Dornish will attack.

If they send the army to fight the Dornish the city will likely be taken over by the High Sparrow.

If they continue to hold the Tyrell heirs prisoner their food supply gets cut off.

Their first priorities should be to aim Ser Robert Strong in the direction of Baelor's sept.

 

Yeah I'd rather have these episode threads than the one thread.




As for the episode, it's another classic Game of Thrones first episode where it's a lot of set up. Shame they killed off Doran.

 

Melisandre eww.

 

Nah I still would.

 

That Melisandre ending was creepy as all get-out, and a bit confusing.

Great episode as a whole, tthoug.

 

It was some crazy ****. I think they wanted to us to be creeped out but also feel bad for Melisandre who feels that she has failed and that her god may not be all that powerful.

Jon Snow revival is the only form of redemption. I'm rooting for Melisandre.

 

I'm not convinced that they will resurrect Jon, but we'll see.

 

Oh I think they definitely are. I think it's going to come at the cost of Ghost however.

 

Or rather her realization that Stannis wasn't the Azor Ahai like she so desperately wanted and that it might have been Jon Snow, but now she thinks it's too late. That she let her own personal ambitions blind her to what the Lord of Light was really trying to tell her through the flames all along.

Yeah, it seems like Melisandre's going to be the one to bring him back for sure, but now she's currently in her "dark night of the soul" phase, as it were.

 

Lannisters are in a cluster**** of their own making.

Sansa finally accepted Brienne's protection. About damn time. Sansa wouldn't last a week on her own as she rightly realized.

I don't see that Ellaria and her Sand Snakes running Dorne ending well. These revenge ploys have often ended badly on this shows as seen with a now blind Arya

 

Hopefully the treacherous little kids sacrificed to resurrect Jon

 

So Jon is in fact dead. Good, as I didnt want a fakeout. He will still likely be revived but dude died.

Doran can walk? I thought he was crippled. With Myrcella dead, I really didnt think we'd see Dorne again as I thought that arc was done. Ugh to Ellaria being back as I couldnt stand her. I liked Trystane so sucks that he's dead

Was surprised to see Cersei free and about as I thought she'd be placed in a cell after her public shaming

When Dany ended up with the Dothraki last season, I didnt think she'd be in trouble. Season opens up and she's pretty much a slave being abused by them. Im glad she let out who she was and they respected her enough to treat her as the Khaleesi. Cant beleive the dragon just dropped her and flew off

When the dogs found Sansa, I thought "you gotta friggin be kidding me!" Girl cant catch a break but then came Brienne to the rescue. Things may finally be looking Sansa's way

I hope Arya gets her sight back and is at least finally reunited with a family member. Who the hell picks on a blind kid? I want that bully to get whats coming to her

I could have done with out Melisandre's true form at the end

 

Doran had bad gout. He isn't crippled just in constant pain.

Arya is probably going to become Game Of Thrones version of Daredevil. She already has her tough love stick like mentor.

 

Ew, Melisandre, put you necklace back on.

 

She confessed and did the walk so that she would be released, or placed under house arrest as it were.

I thought it was an good episode. Last season left lots of stuff in the air, and it couldn't be all answered in the first episode, but it still makes me wish this followed the Netflix model. Good to see Sansa finally in good company.

The Dorne stuff is confusing. Where was Trystane exactly? And how did Obara and Nymeria get there.

 

Trystane's death did have some logic holes, but it is what it is.

 

For me it wasn't a great episode and I know that they are setting up the rest of the season but I just found it stale. The only really exciting bit where you didn't know what would happen was Sansa and Reek on the run and that was done with within ten minutes. So many dull boring scenes took too long such as Margaery when those minutes could have been better spent expanding the storylines.

I'd have loved to have seen a bit more from Tyrion's walk through Meereen also but other than the rest was dry and didn't set up the story all that well. The Nights Watch stuff was alright but you knew they were going to hold off until the Red Woman was shown and that wasn't till they end. And makes the naming of the episode as the Red Woman all the more confusing. That scene could have been shortened as well. It was mostly done for that quota of unnecessary nudity the show has developed the need to fill because people now expect it.

I can't decide if the Bolton stuff added much. Roose's dialogue showed potential problems for them and made you think about possible ways the future will go but then Ramsey's dialogue could easily have been cut and shortened.

For me all the episode gave us was an idea of a three way war between the Boltons, the Lannisters and the Martells, the future of Davos and an alliance with the Wildlings and then a bit more story with Sansa and Dany. Everything else could have been cut. They need to work on merging the stories together instead of diverging more because if the rumours of how long the show has left are true then it's going to feel very rushed at the end.

 

I lost a bunch of my (kids)to her...BUT NOT ANYMORE...BLAHHH

 

Yeah they completely butchered the Dorne stuff, like to an astonishing degree. Literally nothing that was truly interesting or unique about that place or it's characters, is in this show (well besides Oberyn, he was still cool). And WOW did they do a number on Ellaria's character as well.

Oh and don't even get me started on Sansa's arc since last season. I could rage on that for hours. Oh and what a complete and utter waste of Alexander Siddig as well.


Oh and how the heck did the SS get onto the boat, they were still on the dock when it was leaving last season? Are the teleporters or something? And if they're magically back in Dorne next episode, I'm going to face-palm so hard.

 

Now Roose is an example of how you make a villain entertaining.

 

So...is Melisandre going to use that necklace on Jon? Or will the Lord of Light's prayer that Thoros used be what brings Jon back?

 

Snow Watch continues