Season 6, Episode 4 "Book of the Stranger" Discussion Thread

I'm suing D and D for intellectual property theft.

 

Man, I hope someone throws Robyn through the moon door. That little creep just makes my skin crawl.

 

Someone please tell me that Ramsey dies a slow miserable death in the books.

Despite being a sadistic bastard, i still think i hate Joffrey more.

 

He is [BLACKOUT]still alive in the books at this point. and is far worse than Joffrey.[/BLACKOUT]

 

Here's an analysis of how the title applies to the episode, for those wondering:

http://watchersonthewall.com/the-strangers-journey/#more-65156

 

Okay, please don't flame me for this, because I'm still working out my own opinion. And disclaimer, I LOVE Game of Thrones. The most beautifully constructed and visionary TV show in the history of ever.

That being said, I feel like this episode was one of the poorest. Am I wrong in feeling that it really didn't feel like GRRM, his style or his grace? Here's what I mean:

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1. Sansa and Jon reunited. Beautiful moment, something we have been waiting for since season 1 (starks reuniting) but it got me scratching my head... something must be up. Someone is bound to get hurt.
2. Brienne and Tormund. They have never laid a relationship out so thickly and plainly. Seems like convenient fan service to me.
3. Daenerys using her immunity to fire as a superpower. Even the scene itself felt like poor cinematography. Like, something off of the History channel and not the GoT I know and love.

now once again, I'm kind of expecting flaming. But if someone wants to set my mind at ease about any of this, please be my guest. Loving this show isn't a challenge for me. So you'll be preaching to the choir.

 

I'm personally bored with Ramsay and yeah, Joffrey was more interesting and therefore more despisatable (spelling) for me. I'm really enjoying High Sparrow, he's manipulative and scheming.

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1. I agree I don't get the sentiment some viewers had with that scene.
2. Yeah it felt very "meme" like it was done just to get people make something out of it.
3. Yeah I didn't like it either, but if a few Dothraki will challange her next episode, I can forgive it.

 

It's easier for me to hate Joffrey because he was all talk and flaunted his power on people who couldn't defend themselves. Ramsay is horrible, don't get me wrong, but at least he'll actually jump into battle and some of the people he's hurt have had it coming.

Ramsay is like the Joker to Jon's Batman. Joffrey was just your annoying cousin from outta town that keeps ripping pages outta your Batman comics.

 

Haha yeah, Ramsay is a great villain because he's a more than capable warrior and leader. Joffrey was an idiot and a weakling who happened to have too much power. They're both pieces of human garbage, but I feel like Ramsay is one of those love to hate villains whereas Joffrey was one who couldn't die soon enough. Granted, I want to see Ramsay die (and PAINFULLY) but I do enjoy some of his twisted scenes.

 

You aren't wrong in your opinions; it didn't feel GRRMy, but I've never had a good feel on what is and isn't GRRMy about the show. Though after their adaptation of Stannis, I'm pretty immune to whatever other changes they make. I disagree that this is one of the poorest - for that I'd argue it was the premier, which felt like a fixup of deleted scenes from last year's finale.

The Dothraki City was my favorite part of the episode. I'd like to see more of them.

 

Ramsay and his squad of telepathic/teleporting ninja commados are all one can hope for and more!

 

I'm not saying anything...but the CEO of Amazon hired [blackout]20 men[/blackout] to dig up dirt on Trump.

Ramsay is a metafiction prodigy.

 

I meant to mention that [BLACKOUT]Roose getting killed by Ramsay[/BLACKOUT] wasn't very convincing for me. He's not Ned Stark. He would know not to go in for the hug with Ramsay after the news of the baby.

 

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I like Osha a lot. Her death makes me want to fray Ramsy alive.

 

I think Michael McElhatton just wanted out as soon as possible... if you notice... as he falls to the ground.. he takes a nap.

 

Why would he want out?

I'll have to rewatch lol.

 

I don't know if he wanted out or not, that was more of a joke... but other than Charles Dance... the best actors on the show seem to stop giving a ****... Dillane, McEl, and let's be honest here... Dinklage hasn't cared in 2 years.

 

Ok lol. That's a shame. I guess you veterans would notice more than me if they weren't giving as much as they used to. I was still under the illusion that the whole cast was as enthralled by the subject matter and their own awesome characters as I was/the fans were.

 

They all still managed to bring their A-game...Tyrion when they decided to actually let him do important plot things instead of his Laurel and Hardy routine with Varys.

Stephan Dillane had no idea of Stannis's background or motivations. Neither did Aiden Gillen. If these two didn't know, I doubt McElhatton know about the House Bolton background.

 

He'd have to start dying in that scene

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with the Children of the Forest creating the Night's King

and still be semi-alive at the end of the show for any chance of the death being slow and miserable enough.

 

I wanted Stannis to execute Ramsay, Roose, and Littlefinger by burning.

 

No one should kill Ramsay except Theon.

Period.

**** this show! I'm never watching again! never!

 

Theon should have a warmer end awaiting him. Chains too.

edit: Given travel times, you may get a "the squids are coming! the squids are coming!" moment in the battle against Ramsay's forces.

 

I think in the novels Asha (Yara) and Theon, along with Ramsay's own hounds will be the things that kill him in the end.

 

Do you think Abel will have a hand in any of it?